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stormjib

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yeah, the best flavor i got was with the shorty kit and series deck, .6 aliens at around 8 volts...nice vape, plenty cloudy, but even with the airflow way down, I could never get the flavor that I get from the sherman, but I did enjoy the modfather for like 7 months before I sold them. I think I'm done with big tanks now...I still have a vcmt 30 too, but I hardly ever use it. That's another one that improves with the shorty kit.
 
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yeah, the best flavor i got was with the shorty kit and series deck, .6 aliens at around 8 volts...nice vape, plenty cloudy, but even with the airflow way down, I could never get the flavor that I get from the sherman, but I did enjoy the modfather for like 7 months before I sold them. I think I'm done with big tanks now...I still have a vcmt 30 too, but I hardly ever use it. That's another one that improves with the shorty kit.
So your vape style is changing ,
I wanted to use the shorter , kit for sherman , but sadly ,
Its just way too much trouble to do so.
I have just received an email after my comments on the the Review that fagan did , So apparently I might get a new chimney , but as none are in stocks , will have to wait ,
at least now i have a reply. it's a start .
Time will tell now .
Since others state they had a reply then were just stopped being replied to,
I didn't even get that far until now. So fingers crossed this could all of been avoided.
With a little customer care / time given to hear an reply to our problems .

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I just wrote to him again - I know he's not going to respond, but I felt I had to try one more time.

Really sad when I'm using an $18 Cthulhu Gaia RTA that is machined flawlessly and is designed better than my $100 RTA. Sad indeed.
Did you get a response since i have now after posting on fagan Review
So time will tell since parts an tanks in short supply stocks , so gotta wait , As others have said they got a reply ,
then told to wait till jan for restocking supplies . They have not posted if they got it Sorted or not yet

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Did you get a response since i have now after posting on fagan Review
So time will tell since parts an tanks in short supply stocks , so gotta wait , As others have said they got a reply ,
then told to wait till jan for restocking supplies . They have not posted if they got it Sorted or not yet

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Yes, Tom wrote to me this morning and said I would be taken care of. He apologized for the delay, and said he would take care of my issue as soon as the next batch is complete. He said he would provide me with tracking info once it shipped.
 

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2 days after Tom responded to my most recent email, and I now have a tracking number for a replacement. Tom is a good man. I'm glad to see him stepping up for his customers with issues!
Great im still awaiting one , what was you getting a replacement of ,im Awaiting chimney ,

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Great im still awaiting one , what was you getting a replacement of ,im Awaiting chimney ,

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Honestly, my entire RTA is being replaced. My top cap/top part of the tank was cross-threaded when it was manufactured. So the top cap can't sit flush, and there's a big gap, meaning it floods.

So Tom sent me out a whole new tank, as mine is basically useless in its current state. The other threads on mine are smooth as butter tho, just the entire top section is a problem.
 
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Well you suffered long enough , Id of said lucky you , but youd expect a working tank to begin with so its actually unlucky that you didnt get what you paid for , at least you will now have 2 decks [emoji39]

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Yea, it's pretty unlucky lol. I made it work for a little while tho.

I had an o-ring that I used that was the perfect size, and put it underneath the top cap after I filled it up, and screwed it all together - it made a good seal, and helped with flooding, but it took too long to mess with every time you fill it and wasn't worth the hassle. I'm excited to use it the way it was meant to work, tho!

I wrote to Tom asking if he wanted me to send my old unit back, so he could maybe refurbish it or something - maybe not to sell, but at least give to one of his buddies or something. No reply yet, but if he doesn't want it back, yea, I at least have extra parts!
 

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Its no use if the threads are no good will just result in other complaing lol

I received an email saying i had crossed threaded my chimney part from pictures sent , but you cant even see the parts or threads since its all sealed an stuck tight so cannot undo to use the smaller chim extention or tank size.?? . Have you seen the Pj comments on the youtube Review channels they basically say every one with problems is 99% user error , Not nice of them to blame the user for the defect in manufacturing the threaded parts ,

The threads where never de burred leaving sharp burrs that caught in the threading.
trying to remove them results in sliced fingers an sliced Wet and dry paper,
I think a batch was rushed out to meet deadlines , Ok its not Tom's fault. Since he did not do the manufacturing
but for no one to check them since there not sealed packages ,
well i guess that is some ones fault ,

An certainly isnt the end users fault either

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Its no use if the threads are no good will just result in other complaing lol

I received an email saying i had crossed threaded my chimney part from pictures sent , but you cant even see the parts or threads since its all sealed an stuck tight so cannot undo to use the smaller chim extention or tank size.?? . Have you seen the Pj comments on the youtube Review channels they basically say every one with problems is 99% user error , Not nice of them to blame the user for the defect in manufacturing the threaded parts ,

The threads where never de burred leaving sharp burrs that caught in the threading.
trying to remove them results in sliced fingers an sliced Wet and dry paper,
I think a batch was rushed out to meet deadlines , Ok its not Tom's fault. Since he did not do the manufacturing
but for no one to check them since there not sealed packages ,
well i guess that is some ones fault ,

An certainly isnt the end users fault either

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Nope, didn't know they blamed it on user error. Kinda sad, honestly. Some things, sure, user error. But in my case, I'm surprised they didn't notice the cross threading, as it was pretty obvious. As soon as Tom saw pictures of it, he knew exactly what it was.

I'm glad he didn't blame anyone specifically, and he never once blamed it on me (I literally wrote to him the same day I got it, within an hour lol.)

After seeing how tightly these things were all screwed down (man, that chimney section!!) I'm not at all surprised that some of them were crossthreaded, as it wouldn't take much to do it if you're not careful and screwing it down that hard in whatever Chinese factory they're manufacturing these in.

Plus, how would PJ know? Isn't he just a vendor in the US?? Why is he telling people how things were manufactured in China? He wasn't there. Lol
 
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I know but he has posted it on fagans Review along with mike vapes also , but both of them reviewed the tank with two separate chimney stacks , and utlem tank included , that isnt the same as what i Received. These are updated parts which im now awaiting , cant wait ,
To be able to try the smaller mode for better Flavours ,

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After subscribing to this thread I'm so glad I never got the Sherman. Deal breaker has always been the Plastic Tank. I have no idea what the obsession with high dollar Tanks and Plastic is, for me you're getting ripped off. But that aside I have the Modfather 30mm and the Voltrove 41mm, excellent machining, superb on both AND glass tank, no cheaping out with plastic. Both perform amazing so question is, why do people pay high dollar for cheap plastic? Another is the Doggystyle Tank, why? Seriously why?

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After subscribing to this thread I'm so glad I never got the Sherman. Deal breaker has always been the Plastic Tank. I have no idea what the obsession with high dollar Tanks and Plastic is, for me you're getting ripped off. But that aside I have the Modfather 30mm and the Voltrove 41mm, excellent machining, superb on both AND glass tank, no cheaping out with plastic. Both perform amazing so question is, why do people pay high dollar for cheap plastic? Another is the Doggystyle Tank, why? Seriously why?

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Just gotta remember, there's more to an RTA than just the material the tank section is made of. And that itself is subjective, if you don't vape tank crackers, or are good to your devices (my $100 anythings never leave the house. That's what I use my $20 RTAs for.) And if you look at the FB group, us with issues here are definitely in the minority.

Personally, my Sherman was $95 shipped. But that's a far cry less than some people pay for their $300 RTAs or their $200 mechanical mods. Plus the Sherman already has a ton of 3rd party accessories for it available to negate the plastic tank. It's even less of an issue if you love the look of it (which is why I had to have one - when you fall in love with anything, price and materials aren't an issue.)

Same argument can be had with these $400 stabwood mods that look like my old highschool counselor's acrylic nails - i think they're rediculous and look like something you'd get from Hot Topic, but if you love it, it's worth the price.

And I'm not arguing with you, just showing you a different perspective. Because I could have the same argument with you about the Modfather versus the Cthulhu Gaia RDTA, for example - why spend $70 on a Modfather when you could've had the Gaia for $18 a week ago (and is also the best RTA I've used, so far.)
 

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The new Shermans come with ultem instead of the pmma. I just got an ultem section yesterday, it looks a little better than the clear, and won't crack. Until I got the ultem, my three favorite 'high end' tanks; hurricane, aqua2, and sherman, all had pmma tanks....it hasn't really been an issue, although I was pretty paranoid about pmma at first. IMO the Sherman outperforms the Modfather in every way that is important to me; flavor, smooth airflow, build quality. But some people like acuras, some like lexuses, some like mercedes...it's a calculation that we all make, what tank is best for me? I have about 7 different tanks that I use on a regular basis, they all have their plusses and minuses, but I like them all enough to use them. One thing that I've noticed is that all of my favorite tanks are bottom airflow...for me, that delivers the best flavor and the vape experience that I enjoy. I do think the sherman's build quality is as good as any tank that I've used, even tanks that cost twice as much. Everything is relative, though...for some people, a one hundred dollar atty is a major investment that 'has' to pay off, for others, spending a hundred dollars on an atty that they may not like is not a big deal. Just like some people will pay big money for fancy wheels, while others are happy with stock rims...value is pretty subjective. Almost everyone that I've talked to who has the sherman really likes it...but they probably (like me), want to like it, and that bias flavors our experience...it works both ways, too...when I got an aromamizer I was pretty sure I'd hate it, and I did. To answer your question, though, to me a plastic tank is not a deal breaker, it is just one of several variables to consider. It's way less an important consideration than build deck design, or airflow smoothness. The pmma tank, on the sherman is a moot point, anyway, since they're shipping with ultem now. IMO ultem is better than glass, but that's just an opinion.
 

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Thats it its all subjective I like The Aromamizer Supreme RDTA,s lyte, /25mm / an 30mm Versions , I like the MF and the Sherman , just been unlucky with the threads on the Sherman, the only reason the Sherman is getting bad press is down to ,Tom not replying to issues some have had with it, Bit it seems he has corrected these problems Now on new sales with the Reviewers tanks ,having replaced the tank pmma an chimney sections that a few had problems with, Im still waiting for him to get the parts in stock to ship out to me,


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But i guess he not in a rush to do so since i have been pretty harsh on it. But when you do pay this much you'd expect it to work as advertised. An not be blamed for the faulty threads , I just cant help myself an keep quiet about problems I have had.
 
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