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benley73

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I had the same air bubbles. I poke a thin bit of cotton out to create a line for juice to grab and flow freely into the juice channel on
I've found it easier , to use an rta that just works with less fiddling about now ok you still want to tweak them ( like i say) no love for the sherman any more due to the quality issues on mine reported earlier, + had terrible Customer service from Tom at Imperial vapes he Designed it, ,
but now im finding my preference include a JFC makes it more vercitile on RTA,s makes it easier for travelling / refilling and maintinence on the deck,


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Its crap , its nothing to do with wicking the tank was just junk read the early thread , the burrs of sharp metal left on threads i posted , mod father had no problem , , ive bought tanks twice the price half the size , that give lot better Flavours im more into high end RTA, not junk ,
An dont know if your buying the cheapest clones but some are done just as good if not better than authentic Version,s , depending on which brand or high end RTA its cloning ,
where you have to put huge dual coils , an max wattage just get Flavours , squape rta , skyline , doggy , Hussar, Evl reaper , , dam every steam crave is better than sherman , i got mine early and had nothing but problems with it crappy customer service which took 3mths to send out Replacement parts , i know how to wick an RTA thanks ,
I get theres fan boys calling every one out to justify them being had over ,
but honestly the Supreme plus or Mod Father RTA just make the Sherman look even more pitiful, its a cheap china tank , made in china with UK prices, designed on scraps of paper , Tom at Imperial vapes has some of the worst customer service ,
Steam crave reply within hours and there over seas, i bought mine directly in UK from them at Imperial vapes dont try to insulate me by saying i can build or wick , because your trying to justify you being screwed over there hundreds of better RTA,s RDA,s out there than this , no matter price ,
If i want i will buy it , im not short of funds,
Ive had it sold it nothing but quality issues with mine,
Ive had hundreds of RTA,s over the years
some good some fantastic at the time
An some dam right Crap ,
an id list this as just that,
its a cheap china made with an over inflated price to fool thoses enough to defend it ,
threading on the clone version is better than original Authentic Version, bought for spares and turned out better quality, go figure.

many say it leaks ,
many complained about it , but no its always got to be the user,
but not true its Actually the terrible workmanship they had them made cheaply ,

This is one RTA where the Clone turned out better than authentic ,
which why most sold them off for the V3 that they fixed a lot of the faults never mind took 3 Versions to get right.

My Taifun GTv3 , and my GTV3 mini provide better crisper Flavours.
might of cost me more to buy them but use less juice less wattage, and i use them more,
My mod father 30mm 3 decks 3 tank sizes left the sherman for dust ,
Supreme is better built it too had problems at start with thin top cap jamming ect but they sorted that within a week shipping parts out to buyers free,


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Hell yeah damn straight. I wouldn't buy the authentic because it's a complete rip off. I'm happy with mine because I only paid $20 bucks. If I paid $100 bucks for the way this performs I'd be ...... off too. Mos def! Apologists hate to love that tank and just have to keep convincing themselves that they spent that hundred bucks wisely lolz
 

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Hell yeah damn straight. I wouldn't buy the authentic because it's a complete rip off. I'm happy with mine because I only paid $20 bucks. If I paid $100 bucks for the way this performs I'd be ...... off too. Mos def! Apologists hate to love that tank and just have to keep convincing themselves that they spent that hundred bucks wisely lolz
Only thing i liked and kept from Sherman was the chuff tip,
looks nice works well on my Supreme plus [emoji39],
The V3 or say the clone RDA
Includes out now similar styled, Includes 2 new version on the chuff tips and is probably worth picking up just for tips
13.99$ for delrin or utlem tips like that
i think is good price for using with supreme which converts into a RDA too as well as a tank,
have a Velocity deck out now for Supreme an probably the best postless deck out at moment ,
can even use tips for my goon so might pick the clone up,
The V2 Supreme 25mm might be having a bubble tank, a single coil deck , has a velocity + old postless deck , looks to be coming a nicely supported RDTA if they do release them , the original Supreme was nice for Flavours but had condensation Around AFC , new v2 solves that , has RDA mode too , good little tank at Moment , be better still if the extras are released ,


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I'm not trying to justify buying my authentic Sherman. Even though I've mostly moved on from it to a hurricane 1.3, my old cthulhu v2, and squonking rda's, I'm happy that it's on my shelf for when I choose to use it. Didn't you screw up your threads, by putting the chimney in upside down or something? I don't remember, I know I talked to Tom, trying to get it straight for you and he told me something like that...regardless, you had a crap experience, okay. I sold two modfathers, with complete sets of decks, and shorty kits when I bought the Sherman, it was that much better in my opinion. Likewise steamcrave, you say good customer experience...were you around when they said that vapenw was selling clones, even though they were an authentic retailer, steamcrave wanted people to order from them in china instead...never get another dime of my money after they directly lied to me, and then waited three months to correct. 'vapenw only sells authentic, yes'...after months of saying the exact opposite. Guess that's my point, value is subjective...you're happy with your twenty dollar clone, cool, I'm happy with my 100 dollar authentic...neither of us is wrong...but to say they're the same thing is not correct. A fake Prada bag does exactly the same thing as an authentic one, at a tenth of the price...but it's not worth as much. It doesn't matter to me how people choose to spend their money...I could turn around and sell my Sherman tomorrow, easily, but I choose not to, because I value it more than what I paid for it...if someone offered to trade you an authentic for your clone, would you go for it, or say no thanks? No one I know would turn down that offer. Some of the cloning companies, like wotofo, have started to make original designs that are as cheap as their clones of high end stuff...and they're being cloned, for like ten bucks. someone always wants to get things a little cheaper than the next guy, I guess. I would prefer to buy fewer things, of higher quality, that fit my needs and will last, or at least retain their value. Enough people liked the Sherman v1 that they sold a bunch of v1.5s, and now the v2 (which some people call the v3, but it's not, the first two editions aren't really different versions, just tiny differences.)
As an example, I'm buying a 3d squonking mod right now, for just under $300. Now I could get a clone of it, although not a "1:1" clone, for much cheaper. I could buy a cheap chinese mech squonk for under $50, and maybe I'd be happy with that, maybe not...but for me, it's worth it to buy the authentic one. For another guy it isn't. He's not automatically right or wrong, nor am I...it's just what you value.
 

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Sorry that last post was all jumbled, i was kind of distracted while writing it, I see now that it kind of jumps all over the place. It's easy for people to snipe at businesses and drag their name through the mud, but it doesn't accomplish much. For every thing that one person likes, another person doesn't like it, for valid reasons.
 
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No it had burrs causing lot of slices to my fingers just cleaning it up before even putting it together , then tom said it must be cross threaded , eventually got it apart with pliers , snd rubber band ect, then sanded down the threads to remove the sharp burrs where present.
It was never Deburred after cutting the threads ,
I cut and threaded steel pipes for gas services , when i worked for transco so i think i know when its cross thread or not de burred tom only ever seen a pick of it screwd toght which is was flush also so no cross threading was done so how he came to that conclusion is just passing blame as you did eith wicking its easier to blame than admit faults.
An this tank had a lot of faults reported by others about the threads , top caps not seating evenly , sharp edges left on all threading and sharp metal burrs jammed inside deck to name a few , then the crappy clear tank , way too thin , too short of deck Airflow ect which is why it kept getting revised it was in no way a finished product first buyers where Actually playing product testers, hence why he changed the deck , change the tank , changed the Chamber into 2 seperate full parts instead of one that could be 2 sizes because it didnt work well and jammed ,

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I have many authentic versions only buy a clone to try before dropping 100£- 200£ on an authentic RTA , to know if i like it enough first. I have 1 authentic Taifun GTv3 , + 1 authentic mini , kayfuns , vapor giant, ect all better made than the china made Sherman if was made in UK it would of been better quality but it isnt its made on cheap in china , so calling china clones well that just say what ,? Since its Actually china whom invented vaping and produce 80+ % of everything they make better quality than US an UK now ,

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I dont no longer own any sherman , I gave the clone away like i say it just wasnt as good as the Supreme plus , or Mod father , im not using large tanks much now due to my partner being ill and being on Immuno suppression drugs await a transplant , So have switched to smaller RTA s single coil ones Slightly restricted DTL and MTL type , the real high end RTA,s yes i have a few clones and a few authentic versions of these , an to be honest if they are done right and you dont choose the cheapest version (cheapest for a reason poor quality) theres not much difference between some, apart from official brandings ,
Which you obviously haven't tried any of them to just cast all clones are crap statements , which isn't the case any more , if modders want to charge 200£ for an RTA and only make small limited runs then you have to win a chance to actually buy it , its there own fault they get cloned,.
Im sure they could find a company willing to make larger volumes at lower costs , they would sell more at a more reasonable price with out them even being cloned

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Well, I apologize about suggesting you cross threaded the chimney, obviously that's not what happened. I guess I just feel kind of responsible for the Sherman coming to USA, as I was one of the people that convinced Tom to export them to us. You must have been in the same group on FB, if I recall you said you got yours around the same time that I got mine, something like last October. If you were, you might recall that he was reluctant to do so, and only agreed after fifty of us prepaid. Like most tanks that I've owned, it does have its particularities, and isn't perfect....for me, the quality of the flavor that it delivers more than makes up for the extra effort that it takes to build and wick it properly. Just like with the Modfather, it's a small company, not producing thousands of units of at a time...Both are manufactured in china, as you said, but the size and quality of the materials is better than you generally find on cheaper atomizers, especially counterfeits. To me, the best feature of the MF is the interchangeable decks, the series deck in particular is awesome...but I didn't find the level of flavor that I wanted. The sherman has less airflow, but enough for me, and imo it's got much better flavor. I don't see myself ever buying another big tank like either of them, but both of them were fun to play with, especially at first. As I said before, I still use my Sherman somewhat regularly, but it's by no means my usual vape; I've moved on to smaller atomizers with much tighter draws. I don't regret for a second spending a hundred bucks for my sherman, any more than I regret spending that much for each of my modfathers, once you figure accessories into the equation...they were good, interesting, and satisfied my curiousity about big cloud chasing tanks. I applaud small companies who put out unique products, even if none of them are ever perfect. That is the gist of my complaint about counterfeits, they rip off other people's hard work and good ideas, and very often give a false impression of the intent of the original designer. It's not unique to vaping, this counterfeiting thing, and it's nothing new...you can buy cloned nikes, prada bags, basically anything that has big markups is a target for counterfeiters...If they only copied the design, and didn't use logos or names, in an apparent attempt to deceive, I probably wouldn't even care. After all, almost all rtas and rdas are variations on just a few basic designs, very few of them are unique, and when they are, they're usually copied by other companies if they're any good. Right now there are a bunch of little 22mm squonking rdas with tiny decks and reduced chambers...they're different from one another but share a lot of the same characteristics...that I have no problem with at all, as they're more 'variations on a theme' rather than ripoffs of a design. Some of them are pretty expensive, most of them seem to run around a hundred bucks, with a few costing twice that much. Imo, no one 'needs' to spend that kind of money to have a good vape, but if you can afford it, and want to, then it's worth it to you. another ramble! I've got to stop! Peace out!
 

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if you hold a clone and an authentic in your hand and look at them, you'd know they aren't even close to 'exactly the same'.

This is just one example but I have an authentic & clone skyline, you literally can not tell the difference besides the SS being a 316 on the clone vs 304 on the authentic and slightly darker. All the parts thread together between the clone & authentic and I use it as spares. There's a lot of clones like that, most are just as good as the authentic and even thread together, a lot of my authentic atty's are frankensteined together with clone parts like that bc I've dropped, bent, dented or otherwise damaged peices, and it's hard to pass up a 20 dollar complete replacement that works just as good as the $204 one.


Point is, it's not as easy as you think to tell a good clone apart from an authentic. A bad clone, yes, but the good ones esp. lately are 1:1 copies.

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Here's another one, I use narda's daily for my all day squonker, I have one authentic and around 5 to 10 clones, at this point I have no idea which one's the authentic. I could guess, I mean there's some cheapy ones I bought only to get the squonk pins, but the other ones and the authentic are all pretty much the same.

If I really need to tell I hold them under a really bright light, the clones normally have a higher quality SS, 316 vs 304, which is slightly shinier.

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Honestly, my entire RTA is being replaced. My top cap/top part of the tank was cross-threaded when it was manufactured. So the top cap can't sit flush, and there's a big gap, meaning it floods.

So Tom sent me out a whole new tank, as mine is basically useless in its current state. The other threads on mine are smooth as butter tho, just the entire top section is a problem.
Honestly, my entire RTA is being replaced. My top cap/top part of the tank was cross-threaded when it was manufactured. So the top cap can't sit flush, and there's a big gap, meaning it floods.

So Tom sent me out a whole new tank, as mine is basically useless in its current state. The other threads on mine are smooth as butter tho, just the entire top section is a problem.
Well they only cost $20 dollars now so no big deal right?!
 
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Iv'e been thinking about getting this tank and try to buy authentic, when my banker ( the wife ,,, hello dear if your reading this !!.) allows it.
BTW if anyone desperately needs to rid themselves of one of these PM me i'm all ears.lol.
Just pick up the clone save some money , there most likely made in same factory ,

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Just got the V3 in today from fasttech from my black Friday order.

Surprisingly this is a real good upgrade from my V1 clone, wicking is a lot better. Wasn't expecting to like it this much more than the V1.

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Just got the V3 in today from fasttech from my black Friday order.

Surprisingly this is a real good upgrade from my V1 clone, wicking is a lot better. Wasn't expecting to like it this much more than the V1.

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Wow mjag your popping up everywhere where ,im sure i just seen your post on Steam crave FB group about lassimo [emoji106]

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