Shortness of Breath

[YoursTruli]

When it comes it things are tense here in the U.S. with good reason, hence the sideways U.S. responses. ECF has had more than its share of trolls, more so over the last year with anti-vaping in the U.S. national spotlight. No matter where this forum is host vaping/ENDS ANTZ is world wide issue.
I understand others may not care what happens in the U.S. because they currently have different laws that's pretty short sighted considering many other countries follow suit and/or have already banned vaping. There are more than 40 countries that have some type of ban on vaping, either use, sales or importation, or a combination.
Countries | Global Tobacco Control
It is important for everyone worldwide to look past their borders and be informed. The vaping laws worldwide are constantly changing. The World Health Organization and its tobacco control arm the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) has encouraged restrictions and bans on e-cigarettes since the earliest products began arriving on European and U.S. shores in 2007. The FCTC itself is steered by advisers from American anti-smoking organizations like the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids—even though the U.S. is not a party to the treaty.

 

[smacuser]

Zappa for President.

 

[smacuser]

 

[mimöschen]

When it comes it things are tense here in the U.S. with good reason, hence the sideways U.S. responses. ECF has had more than its share of trolls, more so over the last year with anti-vaping in the U.S. national spotlight. No matter where this forum is host vaping/ENDS ANTZ is world wide issue.
I understand others may not care what happens in the U.S. because they currently have different laws that's pretty short sighted considering many other countries follow suit and/or have already banned vaping. There are more than 40 countries that have some type of ban on vaping, either use, sales or importation, or a combination.
Countries | Global Tobacco Control
It is important for everyone worldwide to look past their borders and be informed. The vaping laws worldwide are constantly changing. The World Health Organization and its tobacco control arm the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) has encouraged restrictions and bans on e-cigarettes since the earliest products began arriving on European and U.S. shores in 2007. The FCTC itself is steered by advisers from American anti-smoking organizations like the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids—even though the U.S. is not a party to the treaty.

You're missing an impotant point.
A lot of people and countries are fed up with the US as "leader of the free world", because they're no longer seen as the epitome of freedom, but a nation of racist and oppressive warmongers. Sure, it's always useful to look past one's own borders, but if you think that the US influence on the western world is as strong as it was 20 years ago, you're living in a dream world.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

You're missing an impotant point.
A lot of people and countries are fed up with the US as "leader of the free world", because they're no longer seen as the epitome of freedom, but a nation of racist and oppressive warmongers. Sure, it's always useful to look past one's own borders, but if you think that the US influence on the western world is as strong as it was 20 years ago, you're living in a dream world.

Ahem... Take it to the freakin' Outside!!!

Those types of "rants" are what the Outside was made for.

 

[borno]

Zappa for President.

Pat Paulsen

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

US...but a nation of racist and oppressive warmongers

Saw that coming a kilometer away

 

[CMD-Ky]

they're no longer seen as the epitome of freedom, but a nation of racist and oppressive warmongers.

Certainly if one's knowledge of the US comes from our larger media outlets it makes sense that such a one sided rather uninformed view of the US may be prevalent, erroneous but understandable.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

mimöschen, you do not say where you are posting from. How convenient for you to have a soapbox in an undisclosed location for preaching and hurling insults from an imagined position of moral superiority.

I don't see any debates in this forum about which country is the leader of the free world. If you are really willing to look past your borders, you're likely to see there isn't much left of a free world, that multiple organizations, the various governments of the world (with some notable exceptions), the NGO's, multinational corporations, reactionary citizen groups, and others, are not interested in freedom, other than to remove it.

I believe the people posting in this forum are most interested in staying off cigarettes by vaping. Surviving censorship is part of that process. So as you're firing away from your secret location at the top of your castle wall, it might be more helpful to yourself to fire at trolls who don't want their freedom, who want YOUR freedom.

 

[retired1]

I think we're done here. Political rants belong in Outside, not the general forums. Closing.