Should Children be Allowed to Buy e-Liquids that contain Nicotine?
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Not sure what you're "compressing" there, but 5 years old children are constantly exposed to all sort of "air fresheners", fumes from household cleaners, detergent residues on dishes / cutlery, pet hair, exhaust fumes, radon etc. This seems all to be OK with parents, but god forbids you vape in your own car. This is hypocrisy at its best.
It should be "Comparison".
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The question that deserves many responses
How does one smoke nicotine mist? Would this 5 year old know the answer to that?
Is she going to be sharing some with me, or just keeping it for herself?
Probably not. Cause there's no way I made it to point of being a grand parent in this world by allowing nicotine anywhere near me, and heck if I'm gonna allow some 5 year old to bring me down.
I would tell her she has to wait until she's at least 6 years old for such activities. But she could do it behind my back until she reaches that age.
I'd probably have to, because her mom, my daughter, bought it for her. And as I'm the grand parent living in the basement, I might just have to deal with the situation, as the 5 year old is trying to get over her 3 PAD, 20 month habit of smoking.
If she was using a Reo, probably. But if she was using a Provari, I would say no.
If it were tobacco or menthol flavored, then yes. But if it were tutti fruitti or cotton candy, well you have to draw a line somewhere.
How does one smoke nicotine mist? Would this 5 year old know the answer to that?
Is she going to be sharing some with me, or just keeping it for herself?
Probably not. Cause there's no way I made it to point of being a grand parent in this world by allowing nicotine anywhere near me, and heck if I'm gonna allow some 5 year old to bring me down.
I would tell her she has to wait until she's at least 6 years old for such activities. But she could do it behind my back until she reaches that age.
I'd probably have to, because her mom, my daughter, bought it for her. And as I'm the grand parent living in the basement, I might just have to deal with the situation, as the 5 year old is trying to get over her 3 PAD, 20 month habit of smoking.
If she was using a Reo, probably. But if she was using a Provari, I would say no.
If it were tobacco or menthol flavored, then yes. But if it were tutti fruitti or cotton candy, well you have to draw a line somewhere.
C'mon. You'resome good stuff there, would you care to share.....
Only if you are 18 Years or Older.
Only if you are 18 Years or Older.
Otherwise I shall vape Febreze, eh?
How thoughtful....
But that's what it is. Someone raises the idea of a 5 years old that vapes. Then he comes with "the solution": ban e-liquid sales for under 18. So guess what the 5 years old could vape.
I guess if that 5 year old even had the capacity of the thought of vaping anything than that'd be the smartest dumb kid ever
Some people are just starting to crumble with all the outlandish things that could possibly happen if there was no age restriction hehehe..
Apparently the question is not that simple. The wording is somewhat ambiguous, even though it was well thought out. I read it as "should it be legal for children(meaning those under 18 in most places) to purchase e-liquid that contains nicotine?" Whereas you seem to see it as a more general moral question of "should children(5 year olds) be able to buy liquid containing nicotine?"
I'm not making moral arguments, I'm making rational legally inclined arguments. Should a 5yo be vaping? No, their parent should have the responsibility for not letting them vape. Should a 16yo be legally allowed to purchase e-liquid that contains nicotine? Yes, for the reasons I've already stated.
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So is the Issue more with you as to where to put the Age Limit?
You said 5 Years Old a No Go. But 16 Years Old is OK.
Since we are Trying to keep this to "rational legally inclined arguments", what was the Reasoning for 16 Years Old?
One of My Reasons for 18 Years Old was because at that Point, an Individual is Recognized Legally as an Adult.
No, my issue is with a legal limit. Under a certain age(which will be different for each individual) a person is under their parents influence, to an extent. So a 5 yo would hopefully be prevented from purchasing, by their parent. I don't think there is a magic age and I would rather leave it up to the individual and their parents to decide, if their parents are involved, if not, just the individual. I don't believe the government should be involved by enforcing a legal limit.
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But here's the Problem.
We can't have a Different Age Limit for Every Person in the USA.
And Leaving it up to the Individual Allows a 5 Year Old to Buy e-Liquids which contain Nicotine. And that is Something you said that you are Against.
I'm waiting for mommy to give her 5 year old some money for candy and then he sees the little red cherry flavored bottle of e liquid and buying that instead... for all those in favor of a no age policy good idea!
alright so its my fault for bringing the five year old into this mess never mentioned him with a mod and the understanding of how to use the two together but if you can't smoke cigarettes until you're 18 years old why should it be any different they both have nic in them so that poses a problem not of opinion but a problem of legal standards so while you think it's up to the individual to decide that's your opinion but actually trying to bring this idea to the attention of government would probably be a no no
Smoking is seen as a harmful activity, the merits of that are debatable but not part of my point, and that is where the age restriction supposedly stems from. Nicotine is not the harmful agent. Vaping, as far as we know, today, is not harmful, or rather not any more harmful than many activities even 5 year olds engage in daily.
So the double standard is not why no age limit on vaping when smoking has one, but rather why an age limit on vaping when coffee does not have one.
Kids can buy coffee, but I don't see many 5 year olds walking into Starbucks and ordering a latte.
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I voted 18+, but believe 16 to be a better age to nip the early smoking in the bud so to to speak.
It may have been previously mentioned but I have to say the nic LEVEL is an important aspect in all
this. Nic base should only be allowed to be sold to anyone at 48mg level or less to help avoid fatal poisonings. imo.
Doesn't matter how old you are, if you screw up with high level nic. you could be in trouble there.
Mixing 50/50 would be easy, even for the most mathematically challenged. ( I know I'm wrong there)
Just my opinion...stepping away from this thread now. Cheers all.
It may have been previously mentioned but I have to say the nic LEVEL is an important aspect in all
this. Nic base should only be allowed to be sold to anyone at 48mg level or less to help avoid fatal poisonings. imo.
Doesn't matter how old you are, if you screw up with high level nic. you could be in trouble there.
Mixing 50/50 would be easy, even for the most mathematically challenged. ( I know I'm wrong there)
Just my opinion...stepping away from this thread now. Cheers all.
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