Should I buy a mech?

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catalinaflyer

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Do I need all of these -
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Absolutely NOT, the little ego with the Mini PT2 (2nd from right) does a phenomenal job of producing vape and flavor with my own micro-coil at 1.2 ohms and a cotton wick. I choose to have all the others just because I can.

That's what you have to decide, does what you have satisfy your vaping and if it does then do you want to have more stuff?? There's no right or wrong answer, some people happily vape on their original battery and tank (with new heads) for a year or longer. Other's like myself have a new addiction and that is mods.
 

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I have to agree. The lowest I've gone so far is 0.5 ohms, but yes, when you get it right, it is oh-so-GOOD!

0,5 is also a very good ohm... Its tge spot where its still a cold kind of vape and the taste is just getting strong...

I actually think lower than 0,5 is right about stupid... But i must admit that i enjoy it...


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    You good sir clearly dont know how to
    Subohm the right way
    I am atm using a 0,35ohm dual coil and i do NOT burn my juice... I get a nice vape full of flavor and TONS of it... I get a cleaner flavor from this coil than i ever did with my protank at 1,8-2,5 ohm or my aga-t+ with a 1-2 ohm coil

    If you go low in ohms you just gotta know how to make a good wick

    And that applies to all liquids, i use 100% vg with NO problems at all

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    M16 helio 0,35
    Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
    Bolt carto tank
    Vamo vivi/protank
    Kts+ igo-w 0,7

    The component you left out is airflow management. If you don't match the airflow to the resistance being used, you get a lousy vape.
     

    Langdell

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    Another yes vote here. I have the same preferences--1.5-2.0 ohm coils and no interest in going sub-ohm. After primarily vaping on a Zmax and being pretty satisfied with it for several months, I acquired my first mech a few weeks ago and was immediately sold. I now have a genuine Chi-You mod that quickly became my PV of choice. I can't explain it--in theory, I'm aware of no scientific reason this should be so; it may just be my imagination and placebo effect--but the mechs seem to give me more flavor and just an overall better feeling and more satisfying vape.
     

    newq

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    Thanks for a detailed response, and thank you to the others that responded as well. Is the charger that turns off when the batteries are fully charged a concern to users? Is it safe to leave batteries on the device while I leave the house?

    Thanks again

    The issue there is to get a good quality charger.

    There are many chargers that will do the job but a good Pila charger or efest LUC or nitecore chargers will be best. The chargers mentioned are intelligent chargers, meaning they dont just charge until you disconnect them. They monitor battery charge and once they have reached charge they simply maintain the batts. Most ic chargers will cost you a bit more than run of the mill chargers but they will charge your batteries properly and wont over charge them. Xtar makes a few decent models from what i understand but I have not owned them personally. If I were you I would chose either the Pila or efest. They have 1 amp charging circuits vs the .5 amp of the nitecore.

    These are links to the above mentioned:
    Pila IBC Charger - Battery Chargers
    Efest LUC V4
    http://rtdvapor.com/index.php/battery-chargers/nitecore-intellicharger-i4.html

    In truth it is not recommended to leave the batteries unattended but I do so and have done it for 2 years now without issue. If it is a concern for you perhaps a fireproof charging bag would set your mind at ease. Mind you even cellphones have lithium batteries. What cellphones have much like what I am recommending is they have IC Charging circuits not just dumb powerfeeders.
     
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    newq

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    You good sir clearly dont know how to
    Subohm the right way
    I am atm using a 0,35ohm dual coil and i do NOT burn my juice... I get a nice vape full of flavor and TONS of it... I get a cleaner flavor from this coil than i ever did with my protank at 1,8-2,5 ohm or my aga-t+ with a 1-2 ohm coil

    If you go low in ohms you just gotta know how to make a good wick

    And that applies to all liquids, i use 100% vg with NO problems at all

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    M16 helio 0,35
    Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
    Bolt carto tank
    Vamo vivi/protank
    Kts+ igo-w 0,7

    Depends on the juice and airflow my friend. If you use a real light juice with a very sweet base anything over 600 degrees and you are burning it. It doesn't matter how well you saturate the wick. As well if you cant draw enough air across the coil the same will occur regardless of the viscosity of the juice.


    But it is rather moot to talk about rebuildables as he wasnt asking about building them.
     
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    Tinkiegrrl

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    Eh. I vape right around 8 watts, and I'm perfectly happy there. I like a VW device because as a coil drifts, it'll adjust itself. Simple cartotanks provide me with a great vape in my opinion, and I haven't had to deal with a leak, flooding, or gurgling since I switched to them. I've got my MVP 2 and my iTaste VV v3, and I'm pleased with both. Well, more like I have 2 MVP 2's. Hubby seems intent on owning both VV v3's. He likes the vape from both, but likes the size of the VV v3 much better. So much for a stealth vape for me...
     

    Dusif

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    The component you left out is airflow management. If you don't match the airflow to the resistance being used, you get a lousy vape.

    I got an afcr on my atty and it doesnt matter if my draw is loose or tight... I get the same great experience every time, the airflow cools the coil thats true, and with a poorly wicked build its true it matters... But if the coils keeps cool only because of the airflow you will get a burnt taste if you ease up on the drag at the end of it... And that you always do...


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    M16 helio 0,35
    Galileo helio/chimbus 0,5/0,4
    Bolt carto tank
    Vamo vivi/protank
    Kts+ igo-w 0,7
     

    Myrany

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    I do not sub ohm and I use almost entirely mechs.

    I went into mechs because they are simple and usually easily repairable. I do not trust the FDA deeming to not mess up easy availability of devices should something on a regulated device break. With a mech I have a prayer of repairing it myself. Hence Mechs and RBA/RDA.

    That said you do have to be aware of potential problems in them with batterys and coils. You also have to keep track of your batterys. Worth it to me. YMMV
     

    10x sugar

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    Having the option to use a mech mod is a personal choice. Charging safety should be a concern for all. If you are using cartos and interchangeable head models I would stick with VV.

    I use Russian 91% with a micro coil and it ohms out to about 1.2 ohms. I use it on my provari even though I have 3 other mechanicals on my desk. I came from vaping genesis style atties and now truely only use my Russian
    The trouble with mechs is that you have to strike a balance. If you build a coil too low, you burn juice. Too high and you get a weak vape. so shooting for middle ground is key.

    Where this matters to you vaping 1.5 - 2.0 ohms coils is that most people enjoy a vape from around 3.7-4.2 volts at that ohm rating. With a mech you will get a nice warm satisfying vape when the batts are fresh. It will remain so for til the battery starts to drop below 3.9v and then the vape will peter off and the vape will die with it.

    People go sub ohm so that no matter the juice in the battery it hits good the whole way through to the end of the battery at 3.4v .

    My advice: If you want something nice with interchangeable batteries get a proivari. it will serve your vv taste and move you into a device that you will simply never replace.

    Thank you very much for this clear and concise answer to the OP and for your later one concerning airflow. I am at the same crossroad as the OP (mostly for the reasons stated by myrany). I had all of the information before-so MUCH information-that I wasn't seeing the forest for the trees! lol
     

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    Absolutely NOT, the little ego with the Mini PT2 (2nd from right) does a phenomenal job of producing vape and flavor with my own micro-coil at 1.2 ohms and a cotton wick. I choose to have all the others just because I can.

    As far as I know, the amp limit on a regular ego is 2.2A.

    A 1.2Ω coil on a 3.7V ego exceeds that. It may vape and fire, but the ego is actually only working at it's amp limit.

    It won't blow up in your face, but your damaging/compromising that battery, and setting it up for a charging malfunction/mishap when it's plugged in.
    AKA this;
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    At the very least your destroying that batteries life-span.

    You need to build coils > 1.8Ω if your going to use it on a regular 'ol ego battery. Egos have some safety built into them, but not as sophisticated as a regulated device like your 134 or VTR.

    Science!
     

    cramptholomew

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    I bought my first mech in Sept. 2013. I now have 6.

    You already have an IGO-L. That's a good RDA. Try it with a ~1Ω coil and some cotton on a mech. Your first impression? "OMG. You're kidding me. Why didn't I do this sooner."

    Along with what everyone else says, get good batteries. If you don't plan on going too far subohm (lower than .7), I suggest the Panasonic NCR18650PF's. They last forever. However, they're only 10A rated, so any lower ohms need a battery with higher amp rating - AW 1600mAh 18650's (24A) or Sony US18650VTC4's (30A). Efest and EH have both recently come out with 30A batteries, though I don't own any, so I can't tell you about how well they performance.

    Also, I'd invest in an RBA. The RSST is a good starter genesis style RBA, and a Kayfun Lite + clone as well. I have both. They both have their merits. That said, I still vape a protank with a .9Ω coil on my Nemmy clone all the time, so you can try that too.
     

    catalinaflyer

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    As far as I know, the amp limit on a regular ego is 2.2A.

    A 1.2Ω coil on a 3.7V ego exceeds that. It may vape and fire, but the ego is actually only working at it's amp limit.

    It won't blow up in your face, but your damaging/compromising that battery, and setting it up for a charging malfunction/mishap when it's plugged in.

    At the very least your destroying that batteries life-span.

    You need to build coils > 1.8Ω if your going to use it on a regular 'ol ego battery. Egos have some safety built into them, but not as sophisticated as a regulated device like your 134 or VTR.

    Science!

    I understand the risk with running my ego at 3 amps, I don't condone it, recommend it, suggest it or anything like that. Mine is rated at 2.8 amps (it's a pass-thru not a regular ego) and I know I'm pushing it's limits. I choose to take that risk, it has worked every day for 3 months without a problem.

    My bad for posting it because someone might read that and think it's okay to do that with their's without knowing the inherent risk involved. I build 400 amp power systems for RC airplanes utilizing LiPo batteries so I have great understanding of battery limits, ratings and even have the equipment to test them.

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