Should I even bother? Only a week in and reading all this FDA stuff :(

[kjay]

Talk about a kill joy! I have never been happier, before I found ecigs I never thought quitting smoking would be possible. I finally find the secret that really works..no withdrawls~completely happy, excited about my future and the confidence knowing I will never smoke again as long as I can vape. Im confused about what exactly the FDA wants to do or intends to do....but im reading some real disturbing stuff about the FDA banning ecigs. Are you serious right now? Soooo we will take away ecigs (wayyyyyyy safer than cigs) but cigs will stay on the market???? OMG does anyone have any info on this topic? Someone tell me this will not happen....





I would like to continue the freedom to vape my .... off...thankyou very much!

 

[Balthezar]

Welcome to ECF kjay, don't give up, the FDA has already been beaten once,


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/legislation-news/

Balth

 

[Off Topic]

I doubt it. They'd have to ban the real ones first.

 

[jj2]

The FDA was ceasing shipments coming into the USA. They were later told by Federal Judge that they couldn't. They of course repealed and lost again.
They are now considered a tobacco product and the FDA has the right to regulate them as a tobacco product but hasn't done much....yet.

 

[Off Topic]

My big concern is banning online sales. I'd be screwed. The closest real store is 3 hours one way.

 

[kjay]

ok sorry still fired up....

medical pot...approved
analogs....approved
chantix....approved
wellbutrin...approved
patch....approved
gum...approved
inhaler...approved
but ban ecigs/nicotine/etc...

I could go on and on...how does this make sense? vaping works! worst case, scenrio is a smoker will cut down the amount they are smoking. best case, they quit for life and greatly improve the quality of life! im frustrated...ive tried to quit with other products and failed everytime because my withdrawls were so intense. I dont have that now and poof ...gone? waaa!

 

[Stormiefury]

That's the one thing I don't understand......how can it be a tobacco product when there's no tobacco in it?

 

[Off Topic]

I think the nicotine comes from tobacco

vapenstine juice is from tobacco.

WTA is fractioned from it as well.

 

[jj2]

That's the one thing I don't understand......how can it be a tobacco product when there's no tobacco in it?

There's nicotine in the liquid.

 

[kjay]

As soon as I read that my mind started racing...ok stockpile??? haha or grab all you can and try to wean down to 0nic before they do this?? lol Thank you for the info...its somewhat reassuring..

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

no worries kjay. it's not the banning part most are concerned with..it's the taxing. much has been written and discussed about the fda etc. on ecf. thanks to balthezar for providing a link.

cheers,

 

[Stormiefury]

Well I all I have to say is that if the government can make us miserable......THEY WILL

 

[bigtiime]

So it sounds like the FDA doesn't want us to quit smoking analogs? Who else might not want us all to quit . . . gee lemme think . . .

 

[Stormiefury]

So it sounds like the FDA doesn't want us to quit smoking analogs? Who else might not want us all to quit . . . gee lemme think . . .

*raises hand* OOOOOO PICK ME PICK ME I KNOW I KNOW PICK ME

 

[Deathwhitch]

ok sorry still fired up....

medical pot...approved
analogs....approved
chantix....approved
wellbutrin...approved
patch....approved
gum...approved
inhaler...approved
but ban ecigs/nicotine/etc...

I could go on and on...how does this make sense? vaping works! worst case, scenrio is a smoker will cut down the amount they are smoking. best case, they quit for life and greatly improve the quality of life! im frustrated...ive tried to quit with other products and failed everytime because my withdrawls were so intense. I dont have that now and poof ...gone? waaa!

it makes sense, simple answer. Gov officials and lobbiest have stock in the tobacco industry. Dirty lil secret but money talks and they listened. Same reason pot is slowly becoming legal, they see a way to make money on it. they get NO profit from ecigs (yet anyway) so they want them out. They banned them and then someone fights it and they come to agreement to reinrtoduce under new pices or taxes, meaning now they make a cut of that market. End of the day your health never mattered, its all Business

if you don't buy this answer, or all others fail, blame obama

 

[Yeah_its_me]

Ya know they would bring it mainstream if they thought they could tax the crap out of it like tobacco. FDA stay outta my business!

 

[spicyed]

What irks me the most is how every single "big time journalist" (read: Random blogger or small town newspaper) always uses the quote "propylene glycol (a respiratory irritant used in antifreeze and known to cause respiratory tract infections)". I guess mentioning that it is only used to make antifreeze non toxic hurts their argument, but they likely don't even know that. Or that PG is FDA approved as a solvent for prescription injections.

Oh and added the LD 50 for propylene glycol is:

Oral: LD50> 5.00 g/kg (rat) practically non-toxic
Dermal: LD50> 2.00 g/kg (rabbit) practically non-toxic
Inhalation: Believed to be practically non-toxic

 

[bruiser]

The pharmaceutical industry is probably more against vaping than the tobacco industry. Vaping cuts into their nicotine and quit smoking products. And they have the big bucks to use.

 

[mafig]

My big concern is banning online sales. I'd be screwed. The closest real store is 3 hours one way.

while U here,try DIY yr own juices..i did & am self sufficient..should my country banned the import on e-liquids with nicotine,like my neighbour country Singapore.. my VG/PG(zero nicotine) & flavorings(essenses) i purchased at local bakery supplier..i downloaded eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator to make whatever flavor/mg/ratio of PG/VG mixture..only i buy online 1/2kg=over 500ml of high(48mg) of nicotine PG base menthol...this will certainly last me 2 yrs and hopefully but than i be vaping on zero mg flavor juices..good luck..hope this help and ease yr worry on yr future stock..regards mafig

My DIY kit

My present set up,i use & vape approx 3.5ml daily

 

[Off Topic]

No need to start acting like gun nuts during a democratic presidential inauguration...yet.