Should I start stocking up?

[lasttango]

I have been on the boards almost daily since February. Is it just me, or does it seem like this FDA threat is getting uglier?

I guess what I am wondering is if the "experts" think stocking up is a good idea. Are the experts stocking up?

I got a bit freaked out after reading some threads this past weekend and got another 10 atties, 150mls of juice and 2 more batts.

Thanks.

 

[Kent C]

I have been on the boards almost daily since February. Is it just me, or does it seem like this FDA threat is getting uglier?

I guess what I am wondering is if the "experts" think stocking up is a good idea. Are the experts stocking up?

I got a bit freaked out after reading some threads this past weekend and got another 10 atties, 150mls of juice and 2 more batts.

Thanks.

Hey lasttango!

Most experts I know have a pretty good stash going and we almost all have mods that won't tie us to proprietary batteries in a worse case scenario. It's probably a good idea to get to know DIY with ejuice. Depending on what mg level you vape - some unflavored nic juice can take you a long way. Work your way down to 12mg or below and 30ml of 48mg nic ejuice will get you @ 120ml of vaping. VG and PG is fairly inexpensive and flavors are available. Tobacco flavors may be harder to find in a ban, so you might stock up if that's what you like. Atomizers can be made:


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...your-510-atomizer-step-step-801-901s-too.html

 

[BanjoMan]

Like Kent said try to have at least one (or maybe several) mods that take readily available batteries. You don't have to spend a ton of money - you can find a good basic box mod for under $30 or so. I try to judge how fast my wife and I go through the consumable stuff (attys, cartos, juice) and keep at least a two-year supply on hand. It's enough to make me comfortable without breaking the bank. I haven't gone the DIY route with my juice yet, but it's a viable option if the worst should happen.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

For me, stocking up on vaping supplies is like building a bomb shelter in the 50's and 60's: the worst may happen, but I have neither the temperament nor the financial resources to prepare for every worst-case scenario. [But then, my wife says that I go through life with rose-colored glasses.]

Also, I do not yet have the ultimate mod, atomizer, and e-liquid: I'm still exploring ... and, of course, new ones are coming out almost every day.

Disclaimer: If vaping supplies are banned in your state/county/city, please don't chastise me for giving you bad advice.

 

[Kurt]

For me, the uncertainty of the times can make for a bit of nervousness about the future. So I tend to prepare for the future, be it PV stuff or canned food in my pantry. I treat both the same: I look for sales and get a few of something when the prices are right. Over time I have built quite a little stash of hardware and high-nic unflavored juice for DIY. Peruse the suppliers' forum for sales on the PV types you like. Almost every day there are great deals. Having a good inventory allows me to not worry about it so much, and focus on the things I need to do in my own world. And as Kent said, its a good idea to get into mods that do not require special batteries...although I do have a bunch of those too.

Canned food is not under threat of bans, but that doesn't keep me from having a well-stocked pantry to help out in lean times.

 

[Wench]

I stock up to a point but honestly...
I know few people that can/have the funds to stock up for 20-30+ years worth of use. I definitely can't.. lmao.
Nic liquid also simply won't last that long either.

So I try to keep at least 30+ atty's on hand but long term.. I don't worry too much because it's simply not feasible and honestly I don't really see a problem getting atty's down the road either.

 

[Kent C]

Another note that I pointed out on the forum thread - unless you stop vaping, (even then there's always the classifieds), there's no downside to stocking up if you can afford it. In fact, if taxes are added then it might cost much less now than later. IOW, you won't have something you'd never use.

 

[hittman]

All good advice from good people on this one. I have three commercial mods and a drawer with a few nicosticks that I made and enough parts to make 5-10 more. The basic nicostick takes about 10-15 minutes to make if you have the parts and the 14500 batteries are readily available thru many battery suppliers. You could also make a high voltage pv out of a flashlight body like many people have done. From what I have been told, it is only good to store liquids for about two years. I have always kept several different attys and cartomizers on hand for back up and try to take advantage of supplier sales or pick up deals on the classifieds. Sorry I didn't mean to ramble on. To get back to your question, I would recommend stocking up on what you can afford to buy but honestly wouldn't prepare for the end of the world. There has been talk of a ban from the first day that I signed up on this forum. I am not saying it won't happen but it hasn't yet. I would buy what you can easily afford and not stress over the threat of a ban. People being the clever animals that we are, always seem to find a way to get the things that we need.

 

[The Wiz]

Personally I see nothing wrong with having a 2 to 3 month supply of attys and e-liquid. I have been through just about every scare imaginable since started vaping and have had several panic buying attacks. A few of the leading experts in this area have recently tried to put the e-cig users mind at ease when it comes to stocking up. There are certainly a few threats on the horizon,but nothting to get shaken up about.

The reason I say 2 or 3 months supply is bacause the products(atty's and mods)seem to be improving each month and one may end up with a surplus of product that they find inferior at some point. Been there/Done that!

Wiz

 

[hittman]

Good advice as always Wiz.

 

[Kent C]

The reason I say 2 or 3 months supply is bacause the products(atty's and mods)seem to be improving each month and one may end up with a surplus of product that they find inferior at some point. Been there/Done that!

Wiz

There has been some great improvements, for sure. Still I'm glad I stocked up on Joye 510 attys - the ones I got in bulk long ago are still reading 2.1-2.2 ohms and it seems the newer ones have come up a bit.... There is some ejuice I over bought though. Tastes change! lol

 

[billo]

Well, I certainly wouldn't stock up on batteries. In case of a ban you could still buy or make a mod which uses standard batteries.

Atomizers might also be tough to ban since they might be marketed for some other "pretend" use. In addition, this might be dangerous.
For example, I just switched to LR atty's and have no use for my regular atty's. I'm glad I didn't stock up !

That leaves E liquid, which would be the real problem in case of a ban. I approach that by buying just the unflavored juice with high nicotine content which I can cut with PG or VG later. PG/VG would never be banned.

For example, bluemistvaping.com has 120 ml of 60mg for $32. Cutting this to 30 mg strength gives 240 ml of juice. Works out to only $4 per 30 ml of 30 mg juice! Of course then you have to DIY by adding flavor. They say nicotine has a shelf life of 2 years, so I try to extend this by storing it in the refrigerator and making sure the bottles are tightly capped and that no light gets in.

A ban has been discussed for the 1-1/2 years I've been at this, and all that has happened is that prices have dropped and the batteries have gotten much longer life. A true ban could happen quickly and without much notice. But I don't think it will be this month.

 

[rolygate]

LastTango - Should I start stocking up?

If you're in the USA:
No*.

If you're in the UK:
Yes**.


* In the USA there are many things that would have to happen before suppliers could be shut down, and you'd get plenty of notice.

** In the UK however there is a good possibility - a probability, actually - that the government will ban e-cigarettes next month. The agency in charge of pharmaceutical licensing almost certainly decided on this course of action several months ago, but were forced by regulations to go through a consultation process that realistically is no more than cosmetic. The only reason they would change their mind is due to pressure from above. If the right people have pressed the right buttons then maybe that will happen - but don't count on it.

It's always possible that the UK suppliers will get a year to fall in line. That would be about the best result we could expect. Nevertheless, most people would consider that a 3-month supply in hand is the best policy in any case with such a specialist product, as at present. You can't go into Tesco and buy what you need, after all.

Even with a 21-day's notice ban, all it means (to consumers) is that UK suppliers will have to shut down their websites and mailing operations, and move them offshore. There would be a gap of a couple of months service while that happened. Eventually, you'll still be able to go to the website as normal, and order as normal, and receive your goods in the post as normal. Moving a website takes very little time, but setting up a distribution centre is not so easy due to the staff issues. Prices would go up due to staff and relocation costs, but postage cost Europe-wide is about the same as local in-country post.

One UK supplier has shut down in anticipation, and many are running their stocks down. What's left would have to be shipped abroad for the re-start - if that's what they decide to do.

It would be yet another blow to the local economy, a blow to public health in several ways, and bad news for those who will lose their jobs. This is unlikely to be a factor in the decision.

As far as consumers go, you just need to have a two or three month supply to tide you over - or simply buy from the US or China, of course. There are no issues with supplies posted in from abroad in small quantities. In order to stop those supplies, laws would need changing, and there appears to be no move in that direction currently. This would not be a popular thing to do as it would affect people who count, as against vapers, who don't (as there aren't enough of them yet).