Siegel- FDA Tells Public It Cannot Ensure Safety of Drugs that are Approved; What, Then, Is its Mission?

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The comment section is interesting-

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"... what justification is there for removing electronic cigarettes from the market ...?"

If removing the products of those who defraud the FDA of its regulatory authority is not inherently justified by their criminal conduct, then why should any pharmaceutical or medical device company ever bother to comply with the law?

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With Pfizer, FDA Shunning Tests on Mentally Ill, Promise of Smoking Remedy Chantix Turns to Ashes for Some | FairWarning

“FINALLY, the story/history of Chantix side effects is being told. OMG…I’ve been waiting. I want it to be understood that I took Chantix with all the best intentions, in fact, was EXCITED and looking forward to finally being free of nicotine. I did not take Chantix w/hopes of suffering life threatening side effects, sue and take an early retirement. No, this was not my intention. And, to boot, since it was FDA approved, how could I possibly go wrong? Win/win, right?

I was a closet smoker, 2 – 4 per day, no one knew I even took Chantix except my mom. I took two scripts of Chantix between Oct. ‘06 – Oct. ‘07. I’ll admit, as promised, the cigarettes DID taste bad. I DID quit for a couple months. When I started up again, went BACK for another script. THIS time, however, was different. Something went terribly wrong and I was unable to piece together at the time…what was causing my withdrawal from life.

Two and a half years ago, I was a 55 yr. old happily married (37 years), loving mother and nana of 6. I had a job of 23 years that I loved and lots of friends and siblings all around. My life was GREAT!! So, why not make it even GREATER…by putting the stick down. And, THAT was what I wanted to do!

Jan. ‘08 – - taken by ambulance in middle of nite w/horrific chest pains, stomach spasms as strong as contractions, EXTREME shortness of breath and a MIND BLOWING headache. Kept a week – - released w/diagnosis – - possible virus.

May ‘08 – - had great day at work as usual. Daughter called when I got home and said, “mom, what’s wrong? You haven’t been yourself for a long, long time…and people are worried.” I laughed, hung up, picked up keys, took long drive to rural area singing to oldies along the way, picked up 3 bottles of sleeping pills and mini-diabetic razors…found a closed used car dealership…pulled in on an angle so I could blend in…wrote short note, “it’s been real” which was found by police the next morning when I was found unconscious.”

to be continuedI had downed 240 sleeping pills and cut self up w/razors…woke up six days later when being taken off vent..surrounded by devastated family members…wanting answers. I had none. Spent time in psych unit, short leave from work, babysitting rights had been stripped, all credibility…gone…self-respect…gone…hubby took up residence in spare bedroom, people tip toed around me for months, even driving privileges were taken away for a month and all this was followed up w/2 years of intense outpatient therapy a couple times per week.

Ostracized by those closest to me for over a year…not only had mental issues to overcome, but physical as well. Had to take blood tests every week for several months to confirm a liver transplant was not needed…gained 30 unwanted/un-needed lbs….

What do I remember? I remember dreaming/hallucinating deceased loved ones coming to me at nite, begging me to go w/them. I could FEEL their hugs and listened to their description of how beautiful/fun heaven is! Tried to conVINCE me my job was done here. After several months of this and feeling beyond exhausted…and wanted DESPERATELY to just take a soft blanky into closet and shut the world out…I listened.

NEVER would I have put Chantix in the equation…but after beating myself up for several months after the attempt…my mom started feeding me articles on the negative side effects of this new wonder drug. I finally took the bait and researched on my own. OMG…could this possibly have NOT been my fault??!!! Could a drug REALLY play so drastically w/person’s mind???…but it was FDA approved!! Oh, dear God…do you have any idea how I pray daily (along with THOUSANDS more out there)…for my day of vindication??? Once solid word gets out of these side effects….many answers and prayers will be answered. There will be a windfall of lawsuits. On that you can depend."

Yes, we really need the guidance of the FDA to determine what's safe and not safe for us, look how well they're looking out for our interests with Chantix, Maybe they should let people decide what they want to do- smoke, use E-cigs, use snus, use Stonewalls, use Ariva, use Orbs, strips or whatever.

The FDA says they did nothing wrong. Pfizer says they did nothing wrong. However, with what they KNOW NOW, they should be banned from allowing Chantix to be prescribed without a psych evaluation. Of course that's not a suitable solution because they'd lose 2/3rds of their potential market.

The FDA is doing a poor job of doing their job. The FDA doesn't know how to do their job of administering tobacco, all they know how to do is deny, reduced risk alternatives if they don't come from GP. The FDA is not even good at administering their role in foods and now they're going to have ultimate authority in most of the foods we eat, welcome GA to this political mess. Goodbye small farmer, all in the name of our safety. When people die and get sick from the FDA controlled food they'll claim, "We did nothing wrong". Talk about fraud.

Oh, before I forget, this has got to be Supreme Court Justice Phil hiding behind Guest. The man that understands what Congress meant in their legislation. As if Congress knows what they're doing.
 

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Dr. Siegel is fantastic. Over the past 24 hours I've read through the first year of his blog. What kind of surprised me was how frequently Bill Godshall and Siegel were arguing, with Godshall seemingly taking positions in favor of companies firing smokers, banning smoking in outdoor areas, as well as acting disappointed at Siegel's decision to deconstruct the truth-stretching and lies that were coming from the tobacco control movement.
 

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Bill is very anti-smoking, from my perspective, while Michael is more anti-smoking indoors. Both can be a bit radical- like Michael's recent support for indoor bans in public housing. Having not smoked for nearly a year now, I went from liking the smell of cigarette smoke to it annoying me. However, I find it rather easy to move away from it a few feet and everyone is happy. I find most of the anti-smoking SHS studies that come out totally based on agenda rather than science but the zealots are in control of the science.

I just wish we could get some honest relative risk science performed and published and sold to the public. I believe you could actually reduce the number of smokers way quicker with honesty than the current approach. I'm really starting to believe that isn't the goal of the leaders of this movement though.
 

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What makes anyone think that government knows what is best for us, or that if they did know, that is what they would legeslate for? I don't trust them anymore, and haven't for many years. They only look out for themselves, and how much profit they can make off of the public. We the people need to take back the control in this country before it's too late, if it's not too late already!
 

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What makes anyone think that government knows what is best for us, or that if they did know, that is what they would legeslate for? I don't trust them anymore, and haven't for many years. They only look out for themselves, and how much profit they can make off of the public. We the people need to take back the control in this country before it's too late, if it's not too late already!

I wish I knew who started the rumor that our government and the Unelected and Unaccountable
officials at government agencies like the FDA knows (or cares) what is best for us.
 

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they simply are in it for the$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they dont care for us they are in big tobacco's front pocket and we hope they would jump out and smell the vapor ...and just stick with the truth and warn us of things that are not good for us ..not that we are safe with things like chantix... just my thoughts truth justice is the american way ..well used to be ..in my eyes ...

lawnman3....honesty gets ya far today trust me ...thats what i am all about ...not just so i can sleep at night...

happy new year to all ....scott lm3...
 
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