Sigelei 100w or IPV3???

[unlvjeffro]

I have both pre-ordered, and don't need nor want both. I need to figure out ASAP which unit will be the best buy for my hard earned money.

IPV3
has floating 510 pin
has buck up and buck down on chip
no magnet back panel

sigelei 100w
does not have buck down on chip
has adjustable but not floating 510 pin
has magnet back panel

Not sure if the buck down the ipv has is something really important?
Not sure if the floating pin is as important as the magnetic back plate.

HELP!!!

 

[Nuclear Cowboy]

I'm in the same boat but have already made up my mind. The on board charging on the IPV3 makes it a keeper in my book. No need for magnets. I travel for a living and the USB port is a huge plus.

 

[EDO]

I believe you are mistaken and the IPV3 has only buck down capabilities....but when you have two 18650 batteries that is all you need. I'll say this and it might be a surprise for people but the Cloupor and Sigelei 100 watt devices are absolutely useless for people trying to replace their mechanical devices with a regulated device. People who vape 0.2 or 0.3 ohm coils on a mechanical, without realizing are vaping at high wattage but low voltage. If you vape a 0.2ohm coil on mechanical you aren't vaping at 4.2 volt but rather 3.6 volts due to voltage loss. Also that 3.6v is on the first hit and it will very quickly drop to 3.4v. So the IPV3 can go from 7v all the way down to 1v. You have a full range of regulation. Now the sigelei will go 4.0 volts and up only . I have tried many setup that were awesome with a mechanical but suck on the IPV2...why because it fires everything at a minimum of 4.2v (chip is inaccurate).

So the 100 watt capability of the Cloupor and Sigelei devices is actually useless. The Clapour can go from 4.0v to 15v. But most people setups will never ever go above 7v. Also most higher wattage vapers, as I said before, vape in the 3.1v to 4.1v range. If you are a low ohm high wattage vaper then the IPV3 is the only way to go.

 

[unlvjeffro]

Thank you Nuclear Cowboy and EDO, I decided on the IPV3 and just cancelled my Sigelei 100W. I am not a low ohm high wattage vaper, I don't know what type of vaper I am yet, as I have only been vaping 2 months. But, have found my VV V3 underwhelming, and need something that will give me a bit healthier vape production, flavor, and allow me to regulate and adjust my vaping so I can find where MY sweet spot is. This device should be good for both cloud and flavor chasing, and that's what I need. Thanks again, I appreciate it tremendously.

Also, I can add in magnets to the IPV3, so that way I get all the positives...YEY for me...LOL...

 

[EDO]

I think the IPV3 is just the better choice. I mean I don't understand what Sigelei and Cloupor were thinking Once people get these devices in their hand and see that they can't really regulate the vape and they get stuck at vaping only at 4v... they will be super disappointed. As I said I have tried a bunch of setups that were great on a mechanical but sucked on the IPV2. It will be worse on the Sigelei 100, because people will make super low ohm set ups and see that it will fire everything too hot. Again the IPV3 goes from 1v to 7v......that is all the regulation anyone will ever need.

 

[CharliesTheMan]

Thank you Nuclear Cowboy and EDO, I decided on the IPV3 and just cancelled my Sigelei 100W. I am not a low ohm high wattage vaper, I don't know what type of vaper I am yet, as I have only been vaping 2 months. But, have found my VV V3 underwhelming, and need something that will give me a bit healthier vape production, flavor, and allow me to regulate and adjust my vaping so I can find where MY sweet spot is. This device should be good for both cloud and flavor chasing, and that's what I need. Thanks again, I appreciate it tremendously.

Also, I can add in magnets to the IPV3, so that way I get all the positives...YEY for me...LOL...

I think you'll be happy with the IPV3. You'll like it and you'll lost that "underwhelming vape" type of feeling that we sometimes get with lowpower, smaller batteries.

I wasn't sure what kind of vaper I was when I got the IPV2, at the time I was using Kayfun Lite RBA's and sometimes something like a Nautilus or ProTank 2, and I also was building some drippers but hadn't really realized where I was heading. I was vaping and thats what matters but didn't have much of a direction as I used whatever works. I remember getting the IPV2 and I had some RDA's I had ordered while I waited on the mod, I preordered way early. The range on the IPV2 was so great, I got into rebuilding much bigger because with a mod like that, it's easy to adapt to your coils as long as they're built well and even and heat together, etc if you have 2. It's nice to know that if you build a .4 coil instead of a .6 coil you can just adjust the power up to where it needs to be.

And it heats all atomizers so much faster than a typical mod of less quality or with a chip that doesn't have such amazing power. It will really give off that "sweet spot" feel regardless of if it's a tank w/ pre made coil units, something like a kayfun or an RDA dripper.

 

[VaPreis]

EDIT: Wrong topic....sorry.

 

[Budkiss]

I have the ipv3 in hand and so far really like it. I was a bit worried about wattage/voltage accuracy so i took it to a shop and tested it on a couple builds from 10 w to 150 w and see no problems. It isnt a perfect box by any means but it is an improvement from the ipv2 imo.

 

[Fictitious Character]

I am curious why your pre-order on the Sigelei was not fulfilled as places are showing them in stock now.

I am in the ipv3 wait group and hope the waiting game is worth it.

 

[caged]

I think the IPV3 is just the better choice. I mean I don't understand what Sigelei and Cloupor were thinking Once people get these devices in their hand and see that they can't really regulate the vape and they get stuck at vaping only at 4v... they will be super disappointed. As I said I have tried a bunch of setups that were great on a mechanical but sucked on the IPV2. It will be worse on the Sigelei 100, because people will make super low ohm set ups and see that it will fire everything too hot. Again the IPV3 goes from 1v to 7v......that is all the regulation anyone will ever need.

Wouldn't the minimum voltage in devices like the Sigelei that do not have a buck chip actually be the battery voltage under load? They work just like a mech mod when you try to step down.

 

[unlvjeffro]

I am curious why your pre-order on the Sigelei was not fulfilled as places are showing them in stock now.

I am in the ipv3 wait group and hope the waiting game is worth it.

I ordered from VapeNW for a silver Sigelei 100w. They said they were getting 630 units, but only got 180 black. A lot of the people whom ordered silver before me, switched to black, and I was, again, left waiting.

I ordered my IPV3 through tbd distributors, and got it for 102.99 shipped. It is still going to be weeks before they get their shipment, so I ordered the Sigelei to tide me over, and when I had to wait for that too, I decided to choose 1, and cancel the other.

 

[Fictitious Character]

I ordered from VapeNW for a silver Sigelei 100w. They said they were getting 630 units, but only got 180 black. A lot of the people whom ordered silver before me, switched to black, and I was, again, left waiting.

I ordered my IPV3 through tbd distributors, and got it for 102.99 shipped. It is still going to be weeks before they get their shipment, so I ordered the Sigelei to tide me over, and when I had to wait for that too, I decided to choose 1, and cancel the other.

Ahh gotcha that makes sense. in that regard. I was just wondering because it is available as in stock at some sites currently.

 

[EDO]

Wouldn't the minimum voltage in devices like the Sigelei that do not have a buck chip actually be the battery voltage under load? They work just like a mech mod when you try to step down.

Exactly....what is the point of paying so much for a regulated device and not being able to regulate in the desired voltage range? If it is going to work just like a mechanica mod below 4v then why use it over a mechanical mod? Again if you take into account voltage loss/drop....people who use mechanical mods and use low ohm builds (the people who would desire a 100w mod) vape below 4v.

 

[Nuclear Cowboy]

Simply put, you have to build your coil to the strength of the device you're using. In this respect they are not any different than mechanicals .

 

[EDO]

Simply put, you have to build your coil to the strength of the device you're using. In this respect they are not any different than mechanicals .

In a sense that is true...but with the IPV3 you can do the same build that you are used to doing on a mechanical mod and it will regulate it with a great range up and down. With the Sigelei you would have to alter your builds greatly for you to be able have a vape that can be regulated over a decent range of voltage. Again some one who really wants a 100 watt mod is building super low ohm coils (using low gauge wire). For them it wouldn't make sense to buy a device that can't buck down below 4v. Every proven mod out there that handles a 100 watts has buck down technology.

 

[Nuclear Cowboy]

But that's the beauty of these new high power regulated mods. A low ohm build isn't necessary, just a different mind set to achieve the same or better results. With that said, I agree, the IPV3 is a more full featured device.

 

[caged]

Exactly....what is the point of paying so much for a regulated device and not being able to regulate in the desired voltage range? If it is going to work just like a mechanica mod below 4v then why use it over a mechanical mod? Again if you take into account voltage loss/drop....people who use mechanical mods and use low ohm builds (the people who would desire a 100w mod) vape below 4v.

Because I want to increase the voltage, and the regulation is a plus. I don't understand why anyone would want to decrease voltage, but if you do, a cheap $40 mod would be a wiser choice than paying $150 for a mod you do not need. It's like buying a Ferrari to drive 25mph down city streets. You might think you look good, but it's really pointless.

I'm currently vaping on a mech mod with a .4 ohm build. Not bad, but I really wish I could increase the power.

Also, I am not a fan of floating pins at all. They tend to leak.

 

[EDO]

Because I want to increase the voltage, and the regulation is a plus. I don't understand why anyone would want to decrease voltage, but if you do, a cheap $40 mod would be a wiser choice than paying $150 for a mod you do not need. It's like buying a Ferrari to drive 25mph down city streets. You might think you look good, but it's really pointless.

Just understand that the IPV3 and every 100 watt mod out there to date (they have been around for a while) uses buck technology. Also you are bucking down from 8.4v NOT 4.2v. So your analogy doesn't make sense at all. If you need more than 7v to vape then the IPV3 isn't for you. However if you want to make a quad coil set up using 26g wire then this is the APV you want. It is for people who do dual and quad coils using very thick gauge of wire....these are the people who actually need a 100 watts to vape.

 

[Stinkytofus]

i had an ipv2... even at 25 or 30 watts with an .8ohm dual coil the vape was too hot for me to inhale more than 3 seconds..
many issues with the ipv2 so i had to sell it... shuts down when you lightly tap it, very annoying, unit doesn't sit flush, etc...

my nemesis clone on the other hand... same build.... dual coil setup at .8ohms and i get a very cool vape.... 10 second pulls back to back... much more enjoyable

 

[EDO]

But that's the beauty of these new high power regulated mods. A low ohm build isn't necessary, just a different mind set to achieve the same or better results. With that said, I agree, the IPV3 is a more full featured device.

Your kind of right right when using 28g wire or higher guage wire. You can find a build to work with the device. But If you are used to using 26g wire or 24g wire it isn't that easy at all to alter your build enough to fit a Sigelei type device with boost only technology. And why should you try to alter your build to fit the device? You should buy a device that can handle any build you throw at it. There isn't a build that I have done in the many years I have been vaping (whether it be quad coil 0.2 ohm build or single coil 3 ohm build) that the IPV3 on paper couldn't handle and regulate properly.