Your kind of right right when using 28g wire or higher guage wire. You can find a build to work with the device. But If you are used to using 26g wire or 24g wire it isn't that easy at all to alter your build enough to fit a sigelei type device with boost only technology. And why should you try to alter your build to fit the device? You should buy a device that can handle any build you throw at it. There isn't a build that I have done whether it be quad coil 0.2 ohm build or single coil 3 ohm build that the IPV3 on paper couldn't handle and regulate properly.
Sigelei 100w or IPV3???
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Your kind of right right when using 28g wire or higher guage wire. You can find a build to work with the device. But If you are used to using 26g wire or 24g wire it isn't that easy at all to alter your build enough to fit a sigelei type device with boost only technology. And why should you try to alter your build to fit the device? You should buy a device that can handle any build you throw at it. There isn't a build that I have done whether it be quad coil 0.2 ohm build or single coil 3 ohm build that the IPV3 on paper couldn't handle and regulate properly.
why should you alter your build to fit your device? Come on, you had to do it when you bought your first mech. It's no big deal. Can your mech handle any build you throw at it? No, not by a long shot and is a lot more particular than these regulated mods will ever be about coil builds. You simply build a coil/coils that work to the strength of the device just like you do with a mech. BTW it's no feat to build a 26ga 1.0 ohm duel coil setup.
It's not too hard, you just need a different mindset about your coil build and what you are trying to achieve. Now if you want to be stubborn and stick with your current builds you probably won't get the most out of it. I went through this with the IPV2. When I finally came to the conclusion that a low ohm build wasn't necessary or even desirable the device became a lot more enjoyable.
We probably aren't going to agree on this but that's ok. Take care.
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Definitely we agree and disagree...when I got my Hana Modz clone on day one I knew I would have to alter my builds to fit the device. Instead of running a dual coil 0.8ohm set up I added a bunch of wraps to each coil and made a 1.2 ohm set up that ran at 4.5v. That way I could regulate down to 4.0 v or go up to 5.0v. So I could vape from 15 to 22 watts. It is a great vape. But if I want to do a quad coil using 26g wire....that is when I need a device like the IPV3. The point is the IPV3 can handle anything you throw at it whether it is quad coil low ohm build or high 3 ohm atomizer. I would rather have a device that I can throw anything at it and it will regulate the voltage and not have to worry about adapting my builds to fit the device....to each their own.
Why do y'all think the sigelei is a boost only chip?
A 3 ohm coil on an iPV3 will max out at 7v 16.3w?
Tomorrow will be three weeks that I've had my sigelei 100w and it is a buck only chip. They say 1-6v but I've had it putting out almost 8v with two fresh batteries which are in series btw. I do aim all my builds to need 6v or less as that's where it's consistent and really shines in my opinion. The reverse threaded adjustable 510 pin works great. I'm very happy and enjoying the sigelei while the only thing I've found wrong with mine is the battery pull ribbon came off but it's no big deal.
Once the iPV3 arrives I suspect I'll like the charging port, upgrade availability and one more usable volt better than the sigelei. I might like to play around and see what 150w is like but 70-85w has been my max preference. I do love the fire button and the magnet door on the sigelei
A 3 ohm coil on an iPV3 will max out at 7v 16.3w?
Tomorrow will be three weeks that I've had my sigelei 100w and it is a buck only chip. They say 1-6v but I've had it putting out almost 8v with two fresh batteries which are in series btw. I do aim all my builds to need 6v or less as that's where it's consistent and really shines in my opinion. The reverse threaded adjustable 510 pin works great. I'm very happy and enjoying the sigelei while the only thing I've found wrong with mine is the battery pull ribbon came off but it's no big deal.
Once the iPV3 arrives I suspect I'll like the charging port, upgrade availability and one more usable volt better than the sigelei. I might like to play around and see what 150w is like but 70-85w has been my max preference. I do love the fire button and the magnet door on the sigelei
Thank you for putting us straight LiveLong....We have been arguing over nothing. Looking at the specs of both devices, it seems that the chips they are using are very similar...except the Sigelei has a 2.0 ohm upper limit and the IPV3 has an upper limit of 3ohms. Both are buck only chips which makes sense if you have device that can handle a 100 watts and higher. I had looked at the Caloupor T8 specs and they are boost only and figured the OP was correct in saying the Sigelei is boost only as well. The T8 handles 5.6v minimum to 14v maximum. I don't get who Cloupor is trying to cater to and if these specs will hold.
I think the clouper might be catering to me
I'm new to this, so could easily be thinking wrong. If so feel free to correct meI currently build everything around 1 ohm. And vape my rbas at 30 watts on hana clone. I know I want more power, but I'm unclear where my eventual sweetspot will be.
The ipv3 at 1 ohm. would be able to give me up to 49 watts.
The clouper would give me from 31 watts to 150 watts. So without having to change my build, I could definitely get the wattage I want. The only downside I see is I couldn't use protanks or nautilus on it.
The Ipv3, If I decide I want hotter vape, I would have to build much lower. While that is doable, I would always have a MUCH lower range of possibilities with it.
The clouper v6 is also on my radar. As possibly the best of both. Its voltage is 3.6 to 9.8. So on 1 ohm coil it would be 13 watts to 100 watts. I could vape anything I own on it.
But really I like them all
Which I purchase will probably be because of how the reviews on each are. And probably even more on which comes in stock for a decent price first. I tend to not have much will power, So will probably buy it.
Thanks for coming in livelongandvapor...
I really want your opinion on the IPV3..since you have one of the two other options I'm looking at...but I figured if I wait another week or two, I can get on the IPV4 preorder...bottom feeding...200 Watts.
actually...right after I typed that...they upgraded it to 250 Watts.
I really want your opinion on the IPV3..since you have one of the two other options I'm looking at...but I figured if I wait another week or two, I can get on the IPV4 preorder...bottom feeding...200 Watts.
actually...right after I typed that...they upgraded it to 250 Watts.
Hey EDO, I'm afraid I'm confused by your perspective of the sigelei. I don't think it's useless for a mech user. I vape a dual coil 28 gauge at .4 ohms on my nemesis. If I'm vaping at about 3.9 volts with .4 resistance I would be at 38 watts. So if I throw the same atty on the sigelei I would not be able to up the watts to vape at 45watts? I'm not criticizing or trying to make a statement but I genuinely am trying understand how a sigelei would not be an upgrade. Just because it's a 100 watt box doesn't mean I have to use all 100watts or I'm wasting my money. The numbers of (watts, volts, resistance) are just a means to an end and not an end in itself. If I can get a awesome vape at 60 watts then that's what's important. I have a 15 watt apv that I love to vape my bvc coils at 14 watts.
I apologize ahead of time if I'm misunderstanding you.
I apologize ahead of time if I'm misunderstanding you.
I think the clouper might be catering to me
I currently build everything around 1 ohm. And vape my rbas at 30 watts on hana clone. I know I want more power, but I'm unclear where my eventual sweetspot will be.
The ipv3 at 1 ohm. would be able to give me up to 49 watts.
The clouper would give me from 31 watts to 150 watts. So without having to change my build, I could definitely get the wattage I want. The only downside I see is I couldn't use protanks or nautilus on it.
The Ipv3, If I decide I want hotter vape, I would have to build much lower. While that is doable, I would always have a MUCH lower range of possibilities with it.
The clouper v6 is also on my radar. As possibly the best of both. Its voltage is 3.6 to 9.8. So on 1 ohm coil it would be 13 watts to 100 watts. I could vape anything I own on it.
But really I like them all
Aggro you are assuming that you can indefinitely go higher and higher with the wattage and it will vape better and better. You are currently vaping at 30 watts at 49 watt you would be vaping at 63% higher wattage than you are currently vaping. I can promise you that you will burn you juice and it will be a very unpleasant vape at 50 watts much less 150watts. The fact that the Cloupor has a minimum of 5.6v is very very limiting. For example you got a cold and you want to bring the wattage below 31 watts...you wouldn't be able to. I would suggest to go to some one who has a IPV2 and tell them you want try it out. Crank it to 50 watts and see if you like it. I suspect that it will be too much for your current build....then either buy the IPV3 or you can even get the IPV2 and save yourself some money.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByT2N_e2V0luMTFMMTVuSW13c28/edit?usp=sharing
I ran a spreadsheet showing different ohmloads against volts and watts, so I could visually see which ohmload would give the greatest adjustability. Looks like .25ohm gives you the greatest adjustability, or have I done this incorrectly???
I ran a spreadsheet showing different ohmloads against volts and watts, so I could visually see which ohmload would give the greatest adjustability. Looks like .25ohm gives you the greatest adjustability, or have I done this incorrectly???
I use STEAM ENGINE for determining the sweet spot (ever mod and build has one). Check in out.
Mod range | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
This site also has some great tabs for coil building, juice mixing, and battery life.
I am able to use my IPV3 for all my tanks and my RDAs. I go down to 16 watts with some and up to 100 watts for others. To use the full 150watts you need a build about .33 (not that i usually go that low or high)... just chiming in.
Mod range | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
This site also has some great tabs for coil building, juice mixing, and battery life.
I am able to use my IPV3 for all my tanks and my RDAs. I go down to 16 watts with some and up to 100 watts for others. To use the full 150watts you need a build about .33 (not that i usually go that low or high)... just chiming in.
What?... Sweet spot?...
We're dealing with high wattages...your sweet spot on our mods is determined by your airflow, wire gauge/surface area, and wicking
I'd like to know my sweet spot for this 0.3 Ohm build..
Easily posted this picture 4 times already... probably more like 10..lol
But a sweet spot isn't universal...reminds me of when people were posting those "safe vape range"charts when people would ask what wattage/voltage should I vape at.
Vape shops need to start handing out UGLY'S books...I don't see vaping ever getting less complicated..:/
I wish the IPV3 was a buck and boost..or if they could make a sx350 version...cuz I like thinner wire....I don't want to be building with anything larger than 26awg...but oh well...the build I just pictured will function in 150 wattage range..so I may just go with the IPV3.. It's very sleek..
Budkiss, you have pictures of the ipv with the IPV3?
We're dealing with high wattages...your sweet spot on our mods is determined by your airflow, wire gauge/surface area, and wicking
I'd like to know my sweet spot for this 0.3 Ohm build..
Easily posted this picture 4 times already... probably more like 10..lol
But a sweet spot isn't universal...reminds me of when people were posting those "safe vape range"charts when people would ask what wattage/voltage should I vape at.
Vape shops need to start handing out UGLY'S books...I don't see vaping ever getting less complicated..:/
I wish the IPV3 was a buck and boost..or if they could make a sx350 version...cuz I like thinner wire....I don't want to be building with anything larger than 26awg...but oh well...the build I just pictured will function in 150 wattage range..so I may just go with the IPV3.. It's very sleek..
Budkiss, you have pictures of the ipv with the IPV3?
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Amen.
all these fast and hard rules about whatever power applied to whatever coil will result in X is BS.
Way too many variables to make statements in such two dimensional terms.
Amen.
all these fast and hard rules about whatever power applied to whatever coil will result in X is BS.
Way too many variables to make statements in such two dimensional terms.
I added a partial wrap to mine
(btw... the whole "sweet spot" thing i got from steam engine. I dont know if it is right or not... was just passing it on. They have somehow figured it out for a huge list of mods from a pull down menu. As for the safe power chart... i agree. I dont usually abide by that myself either. Too many variables... tank or rda, nic level, airflow, wire gauge, wicking, etc, etc)
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The safe power chart was for avoiding melting soldered joints that were used in old-school attys... then, people thought it applied to all tanks/edit all stock atomizers/..cuz "that's my sweet spot..higher tastes burnt" thought.
Why do you need steam engine to tell you how to use an ipv?
Why do you need steam engine to tell you how to use an ipv?
You totally misunderstood me but it is totally my fault.....we were talking about buck only vs boost only. I totally prefer buck only vs boost only. It turns out that both the Sigelei and the IPV3 are based on the same chip (Yihi S330 v3) so our discussion was totally misguided since it is a buck only chip. So both devices are buck only. You can definitely put your build on the Sigelei and it will perfectly perform well since the Sigelei can regulate from 1v to 7v. Your vaping at 3.9v which is right in the middle. Now with the Coupor T8 which is boost only and has a 5.6v minimum you would be in trouble. I thought the Sigelei was the same way but it is not.....sorry for the confusion.
I apologize for any miscommunications I caused by my lack of understanding of the specs I was looking at, or the videos I had watched of the Sigelei. My lack of experience in vaping has caused this. I will have to read much, much more to understand the nuances of building setups, and will get more up to speed.
I dont really use steam engine to USE my box but i think the site has some useful info... ohms law, coil building, juice mixing, battery drain. etc.
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