Sigelei #19 mech mod magnet switch

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The magnet I used is a rare earth magnet and super strong when attached to another like it. In my 19 the press is very comfortable using my pinky and only about 1 mil with the O-ring. I like using the O-ring to have the tubes tight and it gave me my 1mil gap.
It seems if you used a 1 or 2mil thick magnet (the one I had laying around is 3mil thick) you might not need an o-ring using a 18350 and should end up with a 1mil press and depending on the magnet strength the press might be very easy.
 

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The battery I am using in my pics is just a flat top 18350.
It is not a great brand (was cheap from a China site,) so I didn't want to show much of it. I do recommend researching some of the battery threads for the good ones. Maybe someone will jump in here with some good recommendations.
Don't know why I said battery. I meant magnet. :facepalm: Thank you though!
 

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Have a Brass 19 on way.

I will dig through my receipts and bookmarks and let you know about the magnets when I get some time. I also plan to edit my post with some info on how the button works to prevent misfires some seem to blame on the 19. For the spacers try to find something like nylon washers (got mine from CDR holders, was on top of the cds and sanded then a little with 150 grit to fit around the magnet and inside the tube.)

Hopefully be back later tonight but depends on work..............
 

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Sorry been busy, couldn't find the listing but I got them on fleabay. They are 1/2 inch round by 1/8 inch thick, the hole fits a #4 screw. I bought them to use as battery connectors. Just be aware the poles are on the surfaces not the edges.
I plan to post some pictures but will try to quickly explain my button theory:

1. the pos connects directly to the top cap to the center pin. No issues there, just check for ohms should be 0 on top cap.

2. the fire button for the batt neg.......
when installed the battery neg side sits on the delrin piece

on my stock 19 mag button, when removed and pressed all the way the magnet sits above the delrin so....
if left this way the magnet on the button will contact the battery putting batt neg to the button and if no side contact is made misfire
if side contact is made after batt contact most likely spark if a device is attached to the 510 (similar to connecting car battery posts.) The batt voltage is not enough for a shock to most hands but I am sure the visual spark will scare the .... out of most people. I have seen it and it is a very visual spark in low light.

If you look at the switch dis-assembled you can see the inner rim on the locking ring. proper function would be the neg batt connection through the mag post, to the button, to the rim of the locking ring providing neg to the tube... 510. The locking ring must make good connection to the body, (unlocked position,) check it with a meter try to get it to 0 ohms if not already, measured to the part that screws into the body. I do not have a spring top but it looks like if the fire button is pressed to the top (rim of locking ring) the spring will take up the slack (slightly pushing up the battery) for the button to contact the locking ring. But, many say the spring damages the batt top?

IMHO the proper setup is..... I put a SS locking washer on the unscrewed button, it fit snug around the raised part the mag post screws into, the lock washer the same thickness as the amount the mag sticks up above the button.

With the washer, when the button is pressed all the way the magnet is even with the delrin. What this does is, now the button makes firm contact with the iner rim of the locking ring at the same time as the magnet contacts the other opposing magnet attached to my batt neg. Never a misfire, never a spark.

I switched to the nylon washers around the magnet so I can tighten the tube. There is a gap I covered with an O-ring in for looks. In my original pics with the softer material around the magnet the O-ring served a purpose maintaining the gap.

So far my 19 is working flawless with only adding
1 magnet
2 nylon washers (only because they were thin and free, I save too many things lol)
1 ss washer (had that too, maybe ACE hardware? they have lots of pieces)

I will try to get some pics later this week



Did you get the Brass 19? There is a long thread for Sigelei tips tricks which might be able to help if your button is glued. I was lucky mine was not.
 

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Here is a very simple way to have the #19 changed from a spring fire button to a magnet fire button.

All you need is a small magnet (mine is 8mm diameter 3mm thick, nickel coated) and a spacer.

1) From a stock #19 unscrew the fire button from the button assembly remove the spring and reassemble.

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2) connect your battery (18350 example here) to the top connector magnet
and place your supplied magnet to the neg side of the battery (make sure your battery repels the button fire magnet.)

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I have ordered a magnet I thought the spring had some part in how this mod fires making contact with the inner part of the lockring, I don't really know but I know for sure I get hot button and even bought a new charger thinking my batterys weren't charging properly but there was huge voltage drop happening somewhere so this is now my last option before I go back to ego type batterys I forgot about trying this so thanks I will post back to let you know how it works for me
 

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Right mine is now firing like a champ, I will still do a copper wire mod so that the brass post is in contact with the inner lockring when compressed, mine also needs a stronger material to keep the magnet on the battery base dead center, im thinking plywood possibly as the foam squashes one side but what a brilliant way to fix this crap button ive got like 0.2mm to press to make the two magnets touch, really can't believe this thread hasn't had more attention it is just brilliant
 

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Right mine is now firing like a champ, I will still do a copper wire mod so that the brass post is in contact with the inner lockring when compressed, mine also needs a stronger material to keep the magnet on the battery base dead center, im thinking plywood possibly as the foam squashes one side but what a brilliant way to fix this crap button ive got like 0.2mm to press to make the two magnets touch, really can't believe this thread hasn't had more attention it is just brilliant

Glad to hear yours is working fine. Check my updated post, I switched the foamy thing to a couple nylon washer things that were on top on CD's in a CDR spindle. I am liking the nylon I can screw the tubes tight, there is still a gap but now the o-ring is just cosmetic.

Thanks for the comment, I believe there are so many negative reviewers on the 19 that many stay away from it. I couldn't believe G Green sugested trying the batt upside down, not a good idea IMO! Now with the brass and head varieties and a little tweaking it is a fantastic solid mod for the price. .......Im still liking the magnets though lol
 

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soo question, I have a brass 19, I love everything about it except I hate how stiff the button is. I get the part about removing the spring, putting a magnet on the neg part of battery, but im not sure if im missing something for the magnet on the button itself. I don't (think) I have a magnet on my bottom button, so would I need to use two magnets or just the one on the battery?
 
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