sigelei 30w battery question

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maxcat

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I have had the device for about a week now. I just noticed it doing something strange with the battery read out. I just put a new battery in. When I go to take a hit the battery display drops down drastically. From 4.2v a brand new battery to 3.6ish. Then goes back to reading 4.2 when not being used. Anybody have a idea on what's going on. Is it still safe to use?
 

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Hi maxcat. It's called battery sag or voltage drop. Basically as a battery ages, it loses it's ability to push out the required voltage.

It's probably safe to use, but you might consider replacing it.

Incidentally, what battery are you using in that sigelei, how long have you had it and roughly how many charge cycles?
 

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Thanks for a the quick reply. 2 of them I have had for close to a year now. The one it's doing it with now is probably close to 3 months old now. It's a Samsung

Do you know which one? 22R or 25R or something else? (I'm assuming you are not using an ICR battery in there)

I'm only asking because the 22 and 25R's in particular are being touted as an alternative to the VTC Sony's seeing as few legitimate vendors have them.

I myself have a few of the 25R's and been satisfied with the performance so far after about 20 charge cycles, but I'd be interested to know which one it is.
 
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It is actually the icr. Is that bad I got it from my local vape shop they recommend it.

You'll probably get different opinions about using ICR batteries in protected APVs like the Sigelei. Personally, as it's sagging badly anyway, I would replace it with an IMR or IMR hybrid battery like the Samsung's listed above, a Sony VTC4/5 or something similar. If you want to learn more, I'd highly recommend reading a blog by our resident forum battery expert Baditude. Can be found http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/5162-11-deeper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-ii.html

I've not used the device you have, so I am not sure what to recommend other than those mentioned. There is a huge thread all for owners of your device though, that can be found http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/575672-sigelei-30w-owners-thread.html
 

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The same thing happens with ipv's. It's a way of displaying voltage drop. It's going to do it regardless of what battery u put in it.

The voltage drop will increase as the load increases for sure, but a voltage drop from 4.2 to 3.6 cannot possibly be normal.

I am prepared to stand corrected but that just seems off the charts excessive to me. Anyone else got any input here?
 

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I've got a Sig 20, just checked to see what it does. I normally have it set to 8W, and it drops from 4.2 to around 4 or 4.1. When I upped the power all the way to 20W it dropped from 4.2W to 3.7W or 3.8W. Based on that I would guess that if you had yours set to 30W the drop you saw might be about right. What power did you have it set at?
 

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I wish I knew the answer. Someone here said something about circuit problems with Sigelei. Maybe there's a problem. Maybe it's OK due to something I'm not aware of. Based on the numbers I came up with your Sigelei could be running at 30W even though you set it to 8.5, which would be bad. You could have hit 2 bad batteries by unlucky coincidence. There's a long busy thread about the S 30W so all I can suggest is check in there and ask. I would be a bit wary about using it until you figure out what's going on though. Good luck. Let us know what happens.
 

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Hello long time sigelei user here, you have to tell us the battery your using.

Icr is an absolute no no. Your way over the amp limit on that and it will shut down right away . You must use an imr battery rated over 10amps. A 25 amp battery is recommended. If you use a 10 amp at the higher settings the battery will have a large voltage drop, and run down fast, voltage drop will show that while vaping.

I would get a refund from the shop that sold you the batteries. I swear these places can be ignorant.
 

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Thats safe, but there will be voltage drop when you turn up the power.

A higher drain battery wouldn't get loaded and voltage drop.
It would be a lot more effective above 12-15w ouput. The 30w can draw up to 8-10amps+ at maximum output. A minimum battery amp limit overhead is 30%... a 50% overhead is recommended. You battery is 10amp so it probably wont reach even 20 real watts on it. Most mods real output power is more affected by the battery used not the mod..

If you step up to a 20amp imr or safe chemistry battery it will work better and you'll only be capping at 50% of the amp limit. 10amps on 20amp battery 50% overhead. No problem for the battery to work well in those limits.
 
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