Silver Bullet Help for Potential Buyer

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So started vaping about 2 monts ago, got the cheap analog look-alikes, moved on to ego-twist, now need something better. Been looking at a couple mods but within my price range (cheap college student cough cough) the silver bullet looks like the winner for price, raving reviews and durability.

Now, because im pretty new I dont know all the good o'l tips and basic needs to get me started. My questions are what do I need to get started, i.e. batteries, chargers, accessories, etc... what type of cartos/tanks should I be using... what ohm of these cartos/attys I should be using... is stacking really that dangerous (to get 6v versus 3.7v) and any other advice you good folks at ECF could provide me with for my SB needs. Thanks in advance!
 

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I got the Silver Bullet and BB at the same time (couldn't decide which to get for my first mod, so got both. Hey, you always need a backup, right?

I would have been perfectly satisfied vaping along at 3.7v courtesy of AW 18650 batteries with my assortment of carto tanks. But I happened to visit the AltSmoke store in Columbus, and spent a couple of hours talking vape talk and testing juices, when the owner asked to see my SB. I had my favorite juice, Virgin Vapors' Kona Velvet Milkshake, in my tank. He gave it back to me and said, "Here, try this."

Hmmm. Warmer and more volumous vapor and seemingly stronger throat hit. I believe I actually can taste notes in the juice that I hadn't noticed before. He had put the familiar generic-looking green 4.9v Nimh battery in there for me to experience 5v vaping for the first time. Then he let me try his own Kicked SB. I don't recall what voltage he had it set for, but he was vaping Cinnamon flavor in that sucker. Don't know if it was the juice or the wattage, but it was way too much for me. But this did set things in motion for me.

I got a couple of the Nimh batteries and the dedicated charger for them. They were nice, but battery charge understandably is short in these, and after a couple of weeks I was noticing less and less battery charge between recharges. This wasn't the answer.

I could have gotten a Kick and an extension sleeve. I'm all about easy. That's why I have tanks, with their own juices, easy to change flavors. I figured with that many different flavors and my enjoyment of variety, I'm not going to like to change voltages with the Kick with the need to remove the battery and the device and use a screwdriver to blindly adjust the voltage up or down. Instead of an add on, I felt a true variable voltage device better suited my vaping style.

The reason I went into all of the above, before I got so long winded in my story, was to point out that you have a couple of options to try higher voltage vaping on the SB, IF that is something you wish to try. With either the 5v batteries (satisfying but frustrating because of poor battery life, not economical in the long run) or getting a Kick and sleeve extension (can also be frustrating if you change voltage frequently). Or, if you don't do either, you'll never experience higher voltage and never know what you might be missing. Ignorance is bliss.
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PS: Never consider stacking batteries in your SB. Not only is trying this a realistic danger, it will void your warranty should something go 'bang'! I've seen first hand what a runaway battery can do. There's a good reason why the warnings about stacking batteries and using unprotected (or non-safe chemistry) batteries are boldly in red print on the website.
 
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Onto your more specific questions. There is some good discussion and problem solving to be found in the Assorted PC Topics forum here:

Assorted PV Topics

Just allow yourself some time and educate yourself on cartomizers, clearomizers, tanks, attys by reading the topics that may seem pertinent to you. All the things that hold and burn juice each have their own pros and cons, and what is good for one person is not for another. Just as with the batteries or mods, you'll likely be advised to get this or get that due to that person's good or bad experiences.

For your first tank, I'd recommend either the Smoktek Titan (or Screw Tank) or the Vivi Nova. There's plenty of threads on these. I have a few of the Titans as I saw some improvements over the Vivi's. Easy to fill by unscrewing the top cap. No needing to mess with a cartomizer. Relatively inexpensive.

Attys. I don't drip, so I can't help you here.

Carto Tanks. You can try one out if this interests you. Perfect juice flow from the tank to the coils is a science and there could be a learning curve here.

Rebuildable Atty tanks. I can't help you on this one, just starting to read up on these.

ce3. I don't drip, so testing sample juices with each one getting its own carto is not effecient or economical. Ce3's, despite being considered a disposable, can be used repeatedly. Can be emptied of juice, cleaned, and reused multiple times. Small capacity, but you only need a little juice to test it, so these are perfect for testing juice flavors.

Watch demo reviews on the devices that you are interested in. Can be found on You Tube or vendor sites. Knowedge will help you decide what is best for you.
 

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I'll add one more thing since you are still to make your order. If you can afford it, I strongly recommend either the better Xtar or Pila charger, and stick with the proven AW brand batteries. If Altsmoke doesn't have them in stock, go to RTVapors for them. You'll thank me later on these.

At some point you'll want to get some Novalox for the tube and endcap threadings. Can get from any hardware store, probably in the electrical section, a tiny bit goes a long way.
 
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Thanks again for the advise Bad, deff will keep that in mind and check out the other threads before ordering my gear.

No problem. Once you've got your ideas narrowed down, present them here and we can critique them from any experience that we have had.

By the way, maybe check out the mega DC cartos by Smoktech that Altsmoke has. I got a few of those when I first got my two mods, before I started collecting tanks, and I was pretty impressed.

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Sadly Altsmoke has limited supply of SB's right now (not color I wanted) so I'm gunna have to hold off buying atleast till they re-up supplies. When I do purchase though I'm gunna get two AW 18650 Protected 3100 batteries, XTAR WP2 II Charger (Pila too much), LR atty, already got bunch of boges and a vivi nova tank. Thinks thats all I need for now, if missing something or feel I should get something over another lemme know!
 

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WHAT have you done!!! Just kiddin'. SB was the first mod I bought and still have. They are very reliable and well built. 3.7 volts is a bit too low for me and 6.0 volts is a bit much but they do have a 5ish volt battery. There is also a device called the kick that you can dial in yer prefered voltage and will allow you to try all manner of atty's, cartos, and tanks at various resistances. Anyway read all the pv threads and know that you bought a solid device.
 

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Thanks everyone cant wait to get it, didnt even ship yet though 8-o! Anyways went with the black chrome with black button SB, two AW 18650 Protected 3100 batts, the XTAR WP2 II Charger, and couple little things here and there. Was thinking bout getting a color but I'm a sucker for blacked out gear, and this one looked sick the the pictures.
 

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I got this chart off of Grimgreen's website:
vapevoltagechart SB.jpg

The Red rectangle shows the available Ohms coils (cartomizers/attys etc. they all have coils with an ohms rating) that will work well with a 3.7V power supply. If you got a 3.2Ohm coil it would produce 4.28 Watts of heat, a 1.8Ohm coil will produce 7.61Watts of heat. It's like lightbulbs, higher wattage = more powerful.
 

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i agree that the SB is working fine with only 3.7volt.. have one and use for dripping.. 1 problem for me when i used a kick.. 3 died within a couple of days.. so i ask Nick (grimmgreen).. he advise me and now it is working awesome with a kick..just to share what he advise me earlier if you want to purchase a kick:-

"There were some ideas floating around that certain springs are having a negative effect on the KICK , I replaced the spring in my SB with some magnets and have had no issues for a few months now. "
 
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