Single Flavor shots

[ChelsB]

I'm wondering if Capella, TFA, INA, etc has any good 1 shot flavors? Have you made any recipes with just one of their flavors?
ETA: I've already tried OSDIY one shot flavors, but it's fine to mention them here

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Kikofarakiko]

I'm actually looking for the same info on both FA and TFA

Sent from my HTC One X9 dual sim using Tapatalk

 

[ChelsB]

I'm actually looking for the same info on both FA and TFA

Sent from my HTC One X9 dual sim using Tapatalk

I'll change the thread title, good idea


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Capella

Banana --becomes more candied like when using higher pcts.

Sweet watermelon
But these 2 take steeping time, not a shake and vape. Requires at least a week, if not longer.


Vanilla Bean Ice Cream

This one was good in a couple of days(may want to add something for a sweeter taste--like marshmellow)

 

[Stosh]

TFA -

Absinthe, Espresso, Kentucky Bourbon, Caramel Cappuccino (less that 1% for CC)

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

A good shake and vape from Flavor West is skittles.....start at 5%. (They made have renamed it because of trademark stuff)

 

[Kikofarakiko]

Capella

Banana --becomes more candied like when using higher pcts.

Sweet watermelon
But these 2 take steeping time, not a shake and vape. Requires at least a week, if not longer.


Vanilla Bean Ice Cream

This one was good in a couple of days(may want to add something for a sweeter taste--like marshmellow)

Can I add something like menthol to watermelon for a cold effect? Or is there a specific flavoring for that cool effect?

Sent from my HTC One X9 dual sim using Tapatalk

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Can I add something like menthol to watermelon for a cold effect? Or is there a specific flavoring for that cool effect?

Sent from my HTC One X9 dual sim using Tapatalk

Koolada. I use that all the time.

 

[ChelsB]

Koolada. I use that all the time.

+1 for koolada. I love the stuff


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[glasseye]

Inawera-

Green Tea with Quince 2-3%
Gold Ducat (tobacco) 2-3%
Exotic 3%
Brandy Cocoa (shisha)2-3%
Smoked Plum 3%

 

[IDJoel]

A good shake and vape from Flavor West is skittles.....start at 5%. (They made have renamed it because of trademark stuff)

I just checked Flavor West's website and it looks like they are calling it "Rainbow Candy" now. They are also offering two versions; the basic RC, and then a RC (Natural). I would guess if it was still called skittles when you used it it would be equivalent to the basic RC.

Do you recall what percentage you liked this as a stand-alone?

 

[man00ver]

Here are some of the one-shots (by which I mean complex flavors in one bottle) I've messed around with...

Capella - Banana Split, Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble, Boston Cream Pie, Cappuccino, Cinnamon Danish Swirl, Lemon Meringue Pie. I liked the BS and BCP enough that I'll solo them again. The others need more help, or do better in recipes. The LMP is pretty nice, but weak on its own.
TFA - Banana Nut Bread is probably their best soloist. Bananas Foster wasn't too bad. Apple Pie needs apple help. Chocolate Coconut Almond Candy Bar is NOPE! Oh, and RY4 Double is really nice, of course.
Flavor West - Almond Roca, Cookies and Cream, Moose Milk and Reindeer Poop are all pretty good, actually. A little added creamy flavor makes them really nice.
FlavourArt - Apple Pie, Booster (Tiramisu), Citrus Mix, Forest Mix, Irish Cream, Mad-Mix (Red Bull), and USA Pleasure (Cola) are all pretty good to excellent solo. They've recently added the "Artist's Touch" and "e-Motions" lines with some one-shots I'm trying now: Labyrinth, Cocoon, and UP are really good, Morning Sun I'm not too sure about. I've got Zeppola and wOw up next, and they both smell like excellent bakery blends.
Inawera - Bahraini Apple Gold is the big hit of the category for me: rum-baked apple and plum with some spice. I've mostly played with their single flavors, but soon I'll be testing their Crème Brulee, Sesame Sweets, and Vanilla Cream flavors, which all smell excellent.

That's about it from me, though I do have a Hangsen Caramel Toffee singleton waiting to test. From descripton and review, it may need some sweetener, but we'll see.

 

[ChelsB]

Here are some of the one-shots (by which I mean complex flavors in one bottle) I've messed around with...

Capella - Banana Split, Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble, Boston Cream Pie, Cappuccino, Cinnamon Danish Swirl, Lemon Meringue Pie. I liked the BS and BCP enough that I'll solo them again. The others need more help, or do better in recipes. The LMP is pretty nice, but weak on its own.
TFA - Banana Nut Bread is probably their best soloist. Bananas Foster wasn't too bad. Apple Pie needs apple help. Chocolate Coconut Almond Candy Bar is NOPE! Oh, and RY4 Double is really nice, of course.
Flavor West - Almond Roca, Cookies and Cream, Moose Milk and Reindeer Poop are all pretty good, actually. A little added creamy flavor makes them really nice.
FlavourArt - Apple Pie, Booster (Tiramisu), Citrus Mix, Forest Mix, Irish Cream, Mad-Mix (Red Bull), and USA Pleasure (Cola) are all pretty good to excellent solo. They've recently added the "Artist's Touch" and "e-Motions" lines with some one-shots I'm trying now: Labyrinth, Cocoon, and UP are really good, Morning Sun I'm not too sure about. I've got Zeppola and wOw up next, and they both smell like excellent bakery blends.
Inawera - Bahraini Apple Gold is the big hit of the category for me: rum-baked apple and plum with some spice. I've mostly played with their single flavors, but soon I'll be testing their Crème Brulee, Sesame Sweets, and Vanilla Cream flavors, which all smell excellent.

That's about it from me, though I do have a Hangsen Caramel Toffee singleton waiting to test. From descripton and review, it may need some sweetener, but we'll see.

Holy guacamole, you're a wealth of information!!!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[IDJoel]

I have recently added Inawera Am4A (3-3.5%) to my daily rotation.

It is a tobacco flavor, which is surprising for me, because I am not a huge tobacco vaper. But this has strong ties to childhood memories for me. The mixed juice smells, and the vapor tastes, exactly like my Grandfather's old leather tobacco pouch filled with moist, aromatic Half & Half pipe tobacco. Not the taste or smell of the tobacco burning, but like when I would sit on his lap as a 5 year-old, and he would fill a fresh bowl.

It is a Burley base with accent notes of Virginia bright; which provides a warm, rich, sightly spicy base. It has an intrinsic sweetness that is neither too much nor too little and suggests an "idea" of caramel without tasting like someone dropped a Werther's candy into it. The accent notes hint lightly at raisins, plum, and autumn leaves.

The best part is this is nearly a shake and vape. I always taste every fresh mix immediately after mixing, if I am unfamiliar with its aging characteristics (even if I have read dependable reviews saying it will need "X" time), so I can get a benchmark, and gauge the maturation myself. This was no different. I tasted immediately after mixing and it was similar to the smell but a tad perfumey and missing any depth/richness. I revisited 72 hours later and it had begun to bloom; enough I filled a 3mL tank. It was very "in-your-face" but all the notes I described above were there. It was definently not an ADV yet but I already knew I was going to like it. At the end of the week it had settled down and was now a real winner. It had smoothed out and developed 85-90% of its overall body/richness. Accent notes still very "forward" but not overwhelming. This I can vape for extended periods. For the rest of the month it changed little; but for the better: it continued to pick up richness, accents moved a bit more to the backround to become subtle suggestions instead of coworkers. I like this at 1 week for the bolder accents, and I like it more mature (month/+) and one of my few "recipes" I don't feel I want to tweek any more.

Bottom line: if you are a greying 50 something (like me ), have fond memories of 1960's over-the-counter pipe tobacco, just want something "different" that is not candy/fruit/bakery/custard, and/or want a non-cigarette tobacco experience... this is a great place to start.

 

[ChelsB]

I have recently added Inawera Am4A (3-3.5%) to my daily rotation.

It is a tobacco flavor, which is surprising for me, because I am not a huge tobacco vaper. But this has strong ties to childhood memories for me. The mixed juice smells, and the vapor tastes, exactly like my Grandfather's old leather tobacco pouch filled with moist, aromatic Half & Half pipe tobacco. Not the taste or smell of the tobacco burning, but like when I would sit on his lap as a 5 year-old, and he would fill a fresh bowl.

It is a Burley base with accent notes of Virginia bright; which provides a warm, rich, sightly spicy base. It has an intrinsic sweetness that is neither too much nor too little and suggests an "idea" of caramel without tasting like someone dropped a Werther's candy into it. The accent notes hint lightly at raisins, plum, and autumn leaves.

The best part is this is nearly a shake and vape. I always taste every fresh mix immediately after mixing, if I am unfamiliar with its aging characteristics (even if I have read dependable reviews saying it will need "X" time), so I can get a benchmark, and gauge the maturation myself. This was no different. I tasted immediately after mixing and it was similar to the smell but a tad perfumey and missing any depth/richness. I revisited 72 hours later and it had begun to bloom; enough I filled a 3mL tank. It was very "in-your-face" but all the notes I described above were there. It was definently not an ADV yet but I already knew I was going to like it. At the end of the week it had settled down and was now a real winner. It had smoothed out and developed 85-90% of its overall body/richness. Accent notes still very "forward" but not overwhelming. This I can vape for extended periods. For the rest of the month it changed little; but for the better: it continued to pick up richness, accents moved a bit more to the backround to become subtle suggestions instead of coworkers. I like this at 1 week for the bolder accents, and I like it more mature (month/+) and one of my few "recipes" I don't feel I want to tweek any more.

Bottom line: if you are a greying 50 something (like me ), have fond memories of 1960's over-the-counter pipe tobacco, just want something "different" that is not candy/fruit/bakery/custard, and/or want a non-cigarette tobacco experience... this is a great place to start.

Very nice! [emoji4]
What tanks do you use to taste your recipes' progress ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[IDJoel]

Very nice! [emoji4]
What tanks do you use to taste your recipes' progress ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why can't I ever have a simple answer?

It depends on what I am trying to do. If I am doing some fast, down-n-dirty, "just trying to get a really rough idea" of how a new flavor is going to be for me (what it generally tastes like & where a general starting percentage might be for me); I will most likely be doing some method like the 100 drop taste test, or Bill's progressive Flavor Chart. For that I am ignoring aging/steep time effects and not really expecting any final answers. In this instance I am mixing minimum quantities (1-1.5 mL ish) so a tank is not the best choice here. I will use a small chambered dripper (RDA) like my Derringer and usually with a single coil build.

If I have a new-to-me recipe and I am really unsure if it is going to be even remotely in my wheelhouse (a recipe from a DIYer who I have never used before and don't know if our palates are anything alike; or recipes using a bunch of new-to-me flavors and I don't have any idea how they will interact; or flavor profiles that look like they would normally be "not for me."). I will make these in small 2-3mL batch size and drip. I am still not concerned with what age might do to it; this is just a "does this recipe have a prayer" effort.

Once I have a working idea (something I think has at least a 60% chance of working for me) then I start to become interested in aging effects and want larger batch sizes so I can taste at routine intervals. I am probably making 10-15mL at a time now. I will begin by dripping this. If it seems to be maybe a 70%-or-better mix ("Yeah; I'd give this a C." recipe), and it doesn't have any obvious tell-tails that it needs more time (e.g. alcohol harshness; "dirty sock" funk of some underdeveloped creams or custards; or something else that jumps right out and says this is not ready to vape), only then will I move to using a tank. It may be only a third to a half filled; but this will let me get a better, more extended, idea of what this particular recipe is going to do for me.

For the tank; I will use one of my regular tanks in rotation. I have three that I am using right now: a Vaporesso Gemini II RTA (V2 that has top airflow), a Vaporesso Gemini RTA (V1 that does NOT have top airflow), and a Geek Vape Griffin. All three are very similar in build and vapor production/taste. I just make sure it has clean cotton and coil and test the new recipe. At this stage I think it is important (for me) to test my juice in what I expect to be vaping it in. Because all three are very similar in taste and performance, I don't worry about the minimal variations, I can adjust for that with minor adjustments to temperature and airflow.

 

[b.m.]

Tfa banana cream and cantaloupe are both good solo at 10%,my son used each of these as adv's for probably 6-7 months on each one.Tfa vanilla bean gelato is good on it's own around 5%.Inawera Creme brulee is good by itself,i think i made it around 3% or so,same with Inw coffee tobacco,it's a very good one at around 3% or so.

 

[DaveP]

It depends on what I am trying to do. If I am doing some fast, down-n-dirty, "just trying to get a really rough idea" of how a new flavor is going to be for me (what it generally tastes like & where a general starting percentage might be for me); I will most likely be doing some method like the 100 drop taste test, or Bill's progressive Flavor Chart. For that I am ignoring aging/steep time effects and not really expecting any final answers. In this instance I am mixing minimum quantities (1-1.5 mL ish) so a tank is not the best choice here. I will use a small chambered dripper (RDA) like my Derringer and usually with a single coil build.

I've started doing the 100 drop (5ml) recipes with new flavors. It's an easy way to add ingredients (1 drop = 1 percent). Another good reason is that 5ml is about a tank full for most RTA's. I use my unflavored mix for the nic/pg/vg part of the mix and all I have to do is add flavoring. 95 drops of unflavored followed by 5 drops of flavor is a 5% flavor mix. What could be simpler? I had a few 10ml LDPE bottles and I ordered 10 more in the 20ml size for more steeping headroom.

I Googled "Bill's progressive Flavor Chart" and came up with nothing (I did find Bills Magic Flavors Blog). Can you provide a link?

 

[IDJoel]

I Googled "Bill's progressive Flavor Chart" and came up with nothing (I did find Bills Magic Flavors Blog). Can you provide a link?

It is in his same Drop Box folder as the paddymx recipes and other resources he has made available in the past; the Drop Box folder he has/had linked in his posting signature. Unfortunately that link appears to now be broken. (Here is a link to his (i think) most recent post so you can check it out for yourself: [URL="https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/the-flavor-apprentice-flavoring-thread.336110/page-726#post-18703141"]The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread[/URL])

I did save a copy (copies actually: PDF, JPEG, and ODX I believe) of his Flavor Chart that I am happy to share via email (can't seem to find a sat via ECF). If you have an interest in that, you are welcome to PM me your email address, and I can forward them to you.