Small rant on tobacco flavors.

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Kanlee

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You sound like me, and your tastes appear to be very similar to mine, so I have to ask...
Have you tried Dekang DK-TAB or BWB Casablanca?
I have not though I have tried PA's dk tab in diy and did not like.BWB casablanca is on my to try list for the future as I have already put a lot of money in this and pv's.
 

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I have not though I have tried PA's dk tab in diy and did not like.BWB casablanca is on my to try list for the future as I have already put a lot of money in this and pv's.
It can be hard sometimes. I guess I am lucky that I have found some really good stuff that suits my taste buds. Of course, I have some mediocre stuff for those meh days where I just need some thing different. I also have a whole drawer of stuff to ignore unless desperate. It can be tough. I have been in a weird flavor mood this week, I have vaped tobacco flavors less than usual.
 

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I do not have a vv, but my silver bullet can take a couple of different battery combinations to allow 5volt and 6 volt vaping and using IMR batteries give a little more heat than standard 3.7. I thought I would vape at 3.7 and I was going to experiment with 5 volt, well I pretty much live in 5 volt. I start my LR atties on 3.7 till they start to get sluggish, then throw in the 5 volt and that is where they live till they get cleaned. These dual coil atties tend to accept 5 volt sooner an have great taste at 5 volt sooner than the single coils. I won a simple pass through that goes up to 4.2 and I am eager to see how that works compared to 5 volts. Then when I am working I can charge and use my batts less. Trying mom and pops ry4 right now, just came in!!!!
 

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I have not though I have tried PA's dk tab in diy and did not like.
I doubt that tastes anything like Dekang DK-TAB.

If you're interested in trying some you can buy 10ml for $4.75 at this place...
Valley Vapor, Personal Vaporizers and Accessories

And their shipping is the most reasonable anywhere, probably will be around $2.00 if not less.

Or if you want to PM me your address, I'd be happy to send you a sample.
But my juice is only 11mg strength.
 

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I doubt that tastes anything like Dekang DK-TAB.

If you're interested in trying some you can buy 10ml for $4.75 at this place...
Valley Vapor, Personal Vaporizers and Accessories

And their shipping is the most reasonable anywhere, probably will be around $2.00 if not less.

Or if you want to PM me your address, I'd be happy to send you a sample.
But my juice is only 11mg strength.

I just vape 6 to 12 myself as I have tinnitus and too much nic makes it worse.
 

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I got an ego 3.4 to 4.2 vv and that is what made me decide to get an Infinity.I have tried Dekang's ry4 eh OK.I have also tried Vaperite's ry4,real sweet and very full on flavor but I had to thin it cause just too much for me,also a little to sweet.
How is M&P's ry4?

I love vaperites, but it plays hell on my atties. Let me vape M&P's a little more and I will post it here. This should be interesting, these little DC atties really bring a robustness to the flavor, so should be fun.
 

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I love vaperites, but it plays hell on my atties. Let me vape M&P's a little more and I will post it here. This should be interesting, these little DC atties really bring a robustness to the flavor, so should be fun.

I have some clear dcc,s and they are good except out of two packs I have gotten 2 bad one's so far.Do not know what it is but filled them and the juice tasted bad.I almost threw away the Torque I got but tried in a LR boge and totally better.Then tried in another dcc and it was ok.??
 

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I use primarily atomizers,the dual coil atomizer is my newest toy and I am in love. cartomizer wise, I use regular boges and just throw them at 5 volts, so the wife who likes a cooler vape can use them as well. I have had a couple of cartos that tasted bad right out of the box, but fewer with the boges. These dc atomizers are sorta public beta that you have to pay regular price for. So far they have an amazing robust flavor, but they take allot of juice to vape off of. When one dies I am eager to take it apart and see the inside working.
 

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what ???????????

You wrote "You do sound like a broken record. Most of us don't want real tobacco of any kind in our ecig juice. I only consider it as a last resort. So far unnecessary. "

I pointed out that most of us use juice with nicotine. That nicotine comes from tobacco. So much for your "We don't want tobacco of any kind" stuff. You are also posting in a thread about tobacco flavors, while saying "We don't want tobacco of any kind".

If you don't want nicotine, that's fine. More power to you - I hope to work my way off it eventually.

If you don't like tobacco flavors, that's fine, too.

But you came into a thread about tobacco flavors and started claiming "Most of us don't want real tobacco of any kind in our ecig juice." That is simply false. Most vapers like juice with nicotine in it, and many like tobacco flavors.

If you respond to this with another meaningless one word post, expect me to quit being nice. If you don't have enough brainpower to actually have a conversation, then just quit trolling and go away.
 

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I use primarily atomizers,the dual coil atomizer is my newest toy and I am in love. cartomizer wise, I use regular boges and just throw them at 5 volts, so the wife who likes a cooler vape can use them as well. I have had a couple of cartos that tasted bad right out of the box, but fewer with the boges. These dc atomizers are sorta public beta that you have to pay regular price for. So far they have an amazing robust flavor, but they take allot of juice to vape off of. When one dies I am eager to take it apart and see the inside working.

I missed that dc atomizers? Who has these?I have three atty's I use now and then and they seem to be lasting pretty good for me.1 from Puresmoker and two I got with my Riva se.I had a few others but they gave up the ghost real quick.
 

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You wrote "You do sound like a broken record. Most of us don't want real tobacco of any kind in our ecig juice. I only consider it as a last resort. So far unnecessary. "

I pointed out that most of us use juice with nicotine. That nicotine comes from tobacco. So much for your "We don't want tobacco of any kind" stuff. You are also posting in a thread about tobacco flavors, while saying "We don't want tobacco of any kind".

If you don't want nicotine, that's fine. More power to you - I hope to work my way off it eventually.

If you don't like tobacco flavors, that's fine, too.

But you came into a thread about tobacco flavors and started claiming "Most of us don't want real tobacco of any kind in our ecig juice." That is simply false. Most vapers like juice with nicotine in it, and many like tobacco flavors.

If you respond to this with another meaningless one word post, expect me to quit being nice. If you don't have enough brainpower to actually have a conversation, then just quit trolling and go away.

Please research the differences in "tobacco flavors" with and without tobacco extract.
 

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Clouds of vapor is the ones that makes them. I was waiting for Iken to get back up and figured I would give them a try. They are great so far. Tobacco and dark juice tend to kill atties, at least for me they do, but these have lasted me two weeks so far with two in rotation. I still have three more, curious to see how long I can go before cleaning them. I was going through one a week or less till I discovered Iken atties. I also would end up cleaning these every three days, but they were durable. These duall coil numbers have not required a cleaning yet and are still going strong on 5 volts. This RY4 might need to steep a little more, or I might need to try a fresh attie.
 

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I am finding it very hard to find something I like,I loved Camel Turkish Gold but did not like Camel reg.I likedMarlboro reds but a little to harsh.I loved Dunhill Gold but the Dunhill e liquid I have tried is not right.I have tried an ungodly amount of e liquid including most named in this thread but I have not found one I want all day as a regular vape.I love fruit but do not like fruit e liquid.
I hated menthol as a smoker but I find myself vaping that most often even though it overpowers my taste buds very quickly.I add it to a lot of my tobacco liquid .I have to dilute vermillion Kentucky as it is just too much in the maple and vanilla,then I still do not want much.
I have tried diy but something in pa's flavors bothers me,makes it feel like my lungs are getting heavy.
I love the taste of tobacco but only certain kinds.I tried all kinds of pipe tobacco but only liked two or three flavors.There were many people on the pipe forums that would describe flavors and it did not taste like that to me.
I am just too darn picky for my own good.
But I keep looking.Who knows it might just be the next one I order.

You sound like me. I'm still searching for the holy grail, but I have tried some that I like. BWB Backo is good and so is Casablanca. I used to love Camel Turkish Royal cigs so I'm looking for something like that. What I like about BWB is his flavors are subtle in certain ones. I don't like 555 or 555exotic, to much going on and you lose the tobacco. Plus I don't like cinnamon in my juice and I taste it in those two flavors. Backo is a clean tobacco taste which is what I like. I have mixed his Backo with Casablanca to get that Turkish tobacco flavor and that is pretty good.

I also tried vaperites tobacco and like most his VR4 is too sweet. I haven't tried his RY4. I don't want sweet. Ok maybe a little, and I don't want chemical taste like most juice vendors have and I don't want a pepper taste either.

China juice to me taste and smell of chemicals and that just turns me off, I also get this clouded head feel like I'm hungover. I just tried a sample of Vermillion River Kentucky Blend and as soon as I opened it I could smell that same chemical smell that most have. I'm vaping it right now and it isn't the worst juice I had but I would not buy it because of that chemical smell and taste. Plus it is too sweet and too much vanilla and a caramel taste. No offense to them.

My next juice vendor to try is going to be Prime Vaping. They use natural tobacco extracts and I tend to lean towards those. Vaperite does also and his house tobacco is good and the Organic also but just not the holy grail. I have not tried all of his juices so there is still hope. I have done a lot of research and reading about tobacco flavors and there seems to be only a few that are good. Like I said most have that chemical smell and taste or are too sweet or too mixed up with candy flavors.

I still have some flavors from these vendors I want to try and hopefully something will strike me. I have some of BWB Ry4 coming along with some more Backo and his Ejoker. I never had his Ry4 and his is described as not sweet with more of a tobacco taste. Which is what I'm looking for. My Ideal vape would be a Turkish Blend Tobacco flavor with subtle Turkish notes with a good thoat hit and vapor. I never had his Ejoker either but I just had to try it just to try it. Who knows maybe I will like it.

Here are some vendors to try. vaperite,want2vape,primevaping and Backwoods Brew. In my opinion these are top of the line vendors when it comes to quality and tobacco flavors. I don't want to vape cola or fruit flavors or cake flavors, I just want a good tobacco and cigar flavors that represent the real thing. I know no juice can be like a cig so that is not really my goal.

What have you tried so far?

The search continues.....

Dave
 

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landscaper you do realize that most RY4 is a sweet blend of caramel and vanilla. Its all good. Fun stuff to try. If you like smokey, dark flavor, try Vaperite's perique, it is very unique, not sweet but good.

Yes I do. The problem is most make it too sweet and overpowering and the tobacco gets lost. Its like vaping a caramel candy with hints of tobacco. Turkish Blend tobacco has those flavors but the tobacco takes the lead with very small hints of coco and vanilla. Good juice is like good food. No one or combination of flavors or ingredients takes over the dish. They all come together to produce that great food or great tobacco or that great vape.

I'm a good cook myself and it took years to develop the skills I have now. I'm not a chef nor do I want to be but I appreciate the food of a good cook or chef. Good juice blenders are hard to come by. The ones I listed are what I consider to be the chefs of the juice suppliers.

Dave
 
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