Small traces of oil taste on my lip after vaping?

[Bigflyrodder]

Many interesting topics brought up quickly here, have thought about them on and off for a while now.

We have to remind ourselves that vaping is not necessarily "safe" but rather a "reduced harm alternative" to smoking. No one really knows the long term affects of inhaling flavorings that, while FDA approved for consumption, have not been tested for heating to high temps and inhaled once changed to vapor. While it may come to pass that vaping is indeed harmless there simply isn't enough data currently available to make that call right now.

The only ingredient we know to be what I would call dangerous, only if seriously abused, is indeed the liquid nicotine itself but, as has been pointed out, one would have to ingest a fairly large quantity of a high concentration before there is need to worry. Are there other ingredients that are worthy of caution? Almost definitely and if you aren't already aware of them you should spend some time in the DIY forum to learn more. You may, as I did, quickly become frustrated by what you learn as there are ingredients, juices, flavors, ejuice vendors, etc. that should either be avoided all together or at least limited in use at least until we know more. Not trying to scare anyone but I believe knowledge is power and, once you have that knowledge, you are free to make your own informed decisions.

Is vaping waaaaaaaay safer than smoking? Has to be! From what I have learned a cigarette can contain upwards of 4,000 different chemicals and the ejuice we use, as was also pointed out, contains only PG/VG, nicotine, and flavorings.

Disclaimer*

I am not a Doctor nor have I ever played one on TV

 

[93gc40]

While the nic we use may be Food Grade or whatever, ALL of the stuff in cigs are also Food Grade, so what. We are NOT eating this stuff. Didn't eat the cigs either, even though it was safe to do so. According to the FDA cigs are only dangerous when SMOKED or INHALED. Never actually seen any of this FDA approved ingredients, Food Grade sure.

 

[93gc40]

Cyanide and arsenic are all available with FDA approval and in food grade, types.. Doesn't mean they are good for you.

 

[TRoxx]

As the title says after I take a hit from my vape I always get this taste of the oil on my lip where I placed the vape. Not only does it happen on my current build, but it has happened in the past with a friend's vape. I was wondering if this is at all safe or is there a way to fix it? Since the labelling and the ingredients seem quite hazardous. My current build is an Aspire Atlantis with a nemesis mech mod.

Senativity to the Taste of oil on the lips is very bad sign...

You need to stop vaping right now...

 

[GinnyTx]

the FDA approved cigarettes and a whole lot of other things that have been proven it's dangers outweighed it's health benefits, so I don't put much stock in that approval. js.

it's probably liquid spitting up from the coil (an Atlantis right? haven't tried that one) but similar...and what does "oil" taste like?

does it do it with all juices? or just one you're using? it could be flooded and that's what you're getting, not sure *shrugs* these folks know more than I do about all of that..

good luck figuring it out.

 

[jamal01]

While the nic we use may be Food Grade or whatever, ALL of the stuff in cigs are also Food Grade, so what. We are NOT eating this stuff. Didn't eat the cigs either, even though it was safe to do so. According to the FDA cigs are only dangerous when SMOKED or INHALED. Never actually seen any of this FDA approved ingredients, Food Grade sure.

93gc40 I think you might be misinformed. Food Grade means it has been tested to be non harmful to humans from what I have learned.

I haven't heard of or seen food grade cyanide or arsenic - could you please site your sources? And I never said it was good for you, its just not bad. Its not going to be any worse then vaping.

In fact, some chemicals are MORE hazardous when vaping. ie diacetyls. They're safe to eat but can cause the famous popcorn lungs disease. However when eating this chemical there is no issues.

I am not trying to start an argument. Just want to know where you're getting these facts from because they make no sense to me.

plus I can tell you for a fact...Cigarettes can be even more dangerous when eating....a single cigarette can have 30 mg of nicotine in it . When you smoke it only about 2 mg or so is absorbed in the lungs. If you eat it, the absorption would be a lot more!

 

[jamal01]

Many interesting topics brought up quickly here, have thought about them on and off for a while now.

We have to remind ourselves that vaping is not necessarily "safe" but rather a "reduced harm alternative" to smoking. No one really knows the long term affects of inhaling flavorings that, while FDA approved for consumption, have not been tested for heating to high temps and inhaled once changed to vapor. While it may come to pass that vaping is indeed harmless there simply isn't enough data currently available to make that call right now.

The only ingredient we know to be what I would call dangerous, only if seriously abused, is indeed the liquid nicotine itself but, as has been pointed out, one would have to ingest a fairly large quantity of a high concentration before there is need to worry. Are there other ingredients that are worthy of caution? Almost definitely and if you aren't already aware of them you should spend some time in the DIY forum to learn more. You may, as I did, quickly become frustrated by what you learn as there are ingredients, juices, flavors, ejuice vendors, etc. that should either be avoided all together or at least limited in use at least until we know more. Not trying to scare anyone but I believe knowledge is power and, once you have that knowledge, you are free to make your own informed decisions.

Is vaping waaaaaaaay safer than smoking? Has to be! From what I have learned a cigarette can contain upwards of 4,000 different chemicals and the ejuice we use, as was also pointed out, contains only PG/VG, nicotine, and flavorings.

Disclaimer*

I am not a Doctor nor have I ever played one on TV

Very well said my friend. Very very well said. There's just not enough testing.

And the testing that's coming out (thinking of a Japanese study in particular) finding formaldehyde and all these chemicals but refuse to release the juice type tested don't really tell us anything. The juice they tested could have been sewer water....

We need more transparency in testing (and funding that does not come from tobacco companies), and only time will tell.

 

[zahzoo]

If you look at the WHOLE post, you may notice that the poster referred to FDA approved NICOTINE, not juice.

Try reading ALL the words next time - it makes for better communication and all that...

Well snuggles I quoted the original post in my reply and here's all the words:

The juice I use has FDA approved nicotine, PG/VG and flavors.

Obviously it can be interpreted two ways... The "FDA approved" descriptor applies to the Nicotine only or to all the ingredients following it. Only the comma knows... maybe the original poster can clarify??

Either way my point remains... There is no "FDA Approved" nicotine being used in e-juice anywhere. Johnson Creek has registered the nicotine they market with the FDA but registered is not approved.

The only reason I raise the point is... folks should not believe FDA approval equates to a safe or safer product. Where e-cigarettes and e-juice are concerned the FDA has not approved anything on the market... so any claim as such is false.