Smok Alien 220w misreading Ohms

[SirLoki]

I got a smok Alien a few months ago and other than crappy 316L TC, I really like the mod. But it has been really really off of reading coils ohms. I have 1 tank with a 0.25 ohm and an RDA with a 0.54 ohm coils. They read fine on my RX 2/3 and my Predator, but on my Alien they show as 0.085. I know I can manually adjust it up to where it needs to be but only being able to adjust it up 0.03 at a shot takes forever, and it shouldn't be that far off.

I did have juice leak down into the 510, but I opened it up and cleaned it out as best as I could. Tried a firmware update and no change. Still reading way off and I'm not sure what to do or check next.

 

[sonicbomb]

When marketing of this device and others like it is based on unrealistically high wattages and low price points, then this is what you get. You can have a cheap mod or high quality components, you can't have both. The good news is if you are using power mode it doesn't really matter that your resistance is off a little, just adjust to taste.

 

[DaveP]

When marketing of this device and others like it is based on unrealistically high wattages and low price points, then this is what you get. You can have a cheap mod or high quality components, you can't have both. The good news is if you are using power mode it doesn't really matter that your resistance is off a little, just adjust to taste.

I agree. I bought my Alien 200W on sale for 10W Tootle puffing along with a Pico Dual for the same reason. Battery life is more important to me than wattage.

I'm still a little wary of my Wismec RX200S. One drop on a hard surface and something's gonna break.

That said, they'll probably last a long time with reasonable care. The upside is the pricing. You can afford to replace them once a year and you're only out $5 a month for 12 months for the privilege of owning them. If they last two years it's really cheap to own and use.

 

[Gallant]

@ SirLoki
Last week mine did the same thing I removed the batteries let it sit for about 5 minutes insert batteries again it worked fine. few days later an error message came up ohm too low or ohm too high the above trick worked out. few days later it totally died

 

[KenD]

I agree. I bought my Alien 200W on sale for 10W Tootle puffing along with a Pico Dual for the same reason. Battery life is more important to me than wattage.

I'm still a little wary of my Wismec RX200S. One drop on a hard surface and something's gonna break. There's so little metal inside and the covers and battery sled are plastic.

That said, they'll probably last a long time with reasonable care. The upside is the pricing. You can afford to replace them once a year and you're only out $5 a month for 12 months for the privilege of owning them. If they last two years it's really cheap to own and use.

Really, is the cover on the rx200s plastic? All my rx200 are metal. My most used one has been dropped repeatedly, and fairly severely at times, and while it looks pretty beat up it's working fine.

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[DaveP]

Really, is the cover on the rx200s plastic? All my rx200 are metal. My most used one has been dropped repeatedly, and fairly severely at times, and while it looks pretty beat up it's working fine.

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I was wrong. It's metal. I haven't vaped it much lately and was speaking from errant memory! I had to go look to make sure the removable cover was metal. It's metal covers all over the outside with the exception of top and bottom.

A drop with 3 batteries inside would probably take a toll on the plastic battery sled, though. There's a lot of weight inside on any mod with 3 18650 cells.

 

[DaveP]

So, anyone tried to vape in TC mode on the Alien 220w at 10W? I generally like 10W @400F. The wattage setting only goes down to 15W on my REV A 1.2.2 Alien. It goes to 6 (as the specs say) in Watt mode. I wonder why the stated specs don't tell you that it stops at 15W in TC mode, but does wattage down to 6.

I know that I can drop the temp setting to compensate, but it's constantly hitting over-temp when I do that. It's not a fun vape when it's hitting overtemp more than it's heating. Even when I drop to 300F it's a hot vape and just cuts on and off more off during the vape.

For now, I'll just use this in power mode.

 

[KenD]

I was wrong. It's metal. I haven't vaped it much lately and was speaking from errant memory! I had to go look to make sure the removable cover was metal. It's metal covers all over the outside with the exception of top and bottom.

A drop with 3 batteries inside would probably take a toll on the plastic battery sled, though. There's a lot of weight inside on any mod with 3 18650 cells.

The tc on the Alien is not very good anyway. I use it in tc, but my build can handle fairly high power. The tc on mine is pretty much only a worst case scenario safety limit.

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[Sugar_and_Spice]

So, anyone tried to vape in TC mode on the Alien 220w at 10W? I generally like 10W @400F. The wattage setting only goes down to 15W on my REV A 1.2.2 Alien. It goes to 6 (as the specs say) in Watt mode. I wonder why the stated specs don't tell you that it stops at 15W in TC mode, but does wattage down to 6.

I know that I can drop the temp setting to compensate, but it's constantly hitting over-temp when I do that. It's not a fun vape when it's hitting overtemp more than it's heating. Even when I drop to 300F it's a hot vape and just cuts on and off more off during the vape.

For now, I'll just use this in power mode.

I got some weird msg's also on my AL85 so now I just use the Pico for my tc. The vape is so much smoother and more flavorable. I only use ss or kanthal on the AL85 now, but find I am using them less and less....

 

[DaveP]

I got some weird msg's also on my AL85 so now I just use the Pico for my tc. The vape is so much smoother and more flavorable. I only use ss or kanthal on the AL85 now, but find I am using them less and less....

I use Kanthal occasionally. It used to be my favorite wire, but SS was my choice for TC and I'm finding myself using SS316 more and more because it works in both modes.

The Alien 220W is working fine and the pair of 30Q's I dropped into it yesterday afternoon are still 2/3 full on the display and matched perfectly for even discharge. I bought four 30Qs about a month ago and they've been rotated in and out of my Pico in sequence, so they have had equal loading.

I'm testing Mooch's hypothesis that we may be able to vape matched batteries in multiples without marrying them. At 10 Watts I'm not worried about stressing them. As long as discharge shows even levels down to cutoff I'm good.

Looks like the Alien 220W is going to get a day and a half to two full days from the pair of 30Q's. Pico was draining one in about 8 hours. The Pico Dual from VaporDNA hasn't hit USPS yet. The Alien made it here from FT. Lauderdale in a little over two days after I ordered.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I use Kanthal occasionally. It used to be my favorite wire, but SS was my choice for TC and I'm finding myself using SS316 more and more because it works in both modes.

The Alien 220W is working fine and the pair of 30Q's I dropped into it yesterday afternoon are still 2/3 full on the display and matched perfectly for even discharge. I bought four 30Qs about a month ago and they've been rotated in and out of my Pico in sequence, so they have had equal loading.

I'm testing Mooch's hypothesis that we may be able to vape matched batteries in multiples without marrying them. At 10 Watts I'm not worried about stressing them. As long as discharge shows even levels down to cutoff I'm good.

Looks like the Alien 220W is going to get a day and a half to two full days from the pair of 30Q's. Pico was draining one in about 8 hours. The Pico Dual from VaporDNA hasn't hit USPS yet. The Alien made it here from FT. Lauderdale in a little over two days after I ordered.

Right now, I have expanded my vaping to include Titianum pre built CLR coils. I got them on sale from Healthcabin's last big sale. For the price, I thought 'why not'. I have been reading on how to handle titanium because its different from the way we would use and build kanthal and ss. The difference in the vape is amazing. I was totally surprised. I have them set much like you posted for your ss, vaping on a pico, depending on my juice the watts are set between 9-12 at at temp from 400F to 450F. To date my best vape yet. YMMV



eta my coils are .5 ohm--my bad for leaving that out...

 

[DaveP]

Right now, I have expanded my vaping to include Titianum pre built CLR coils. I got them on sale from Healthcabin's last big sale. For the price, I thought 'why not'. I have been reading on how to handle titanium because its different from the way we would use and build kanthal and ss. The difference in the vape is amazing. I was totally surprised. I have them set much like you posted for your ss, vaping on a pico, depending on my juice the watts are set between 9-12 at at temp from 400F to 450F. To date my best vape yet. YMMV



eta my coils are .5 ohm--my bad for leaving that out...

Kudos on finding the flavor wire you like.

I have a roll of Titanium somewhere (if I didn't discard it). Creature of habit such that I am, I wound my first titanium coil, mounted it, and proceeded to dry burn it. Poof!! It turned to ash. Then, I did the research and found out that you can't dry burn Titanium ... OOPS! That was about 3 years ago.

So, I stuck to Kanthal and SS316L and have been happy ever after. So, what do you do with a gunked up TI coil? Dip it in alcohol and brush it clean? Wet it and brush it? My one and only experience with TI was years ago.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Kudos on finding the flavor wire you like.

I have a roll of Titanium somewhere (if I didn't discard it). Creature of habit such that I am, I wound my first titanium coil, mounted it, and proceeded to dry burn it. Poof!! It turned to ash. Then, I did the research and found out that you can't dry burn Titanium ... OOPS!

So, I stuck to Kanthal and SS316L and have been happy ever after. So, what do you do with a gunked up TI coil? Dip it in alcohol and brush it clean? My one and only experience with TI was years ago.

Since this is my first experience with it, I have read you can take a brush and do what you are suggesting to clean it. I will have to keep digging into what is the best way. If all else fails, the price was low enough to just pitch the wire if they are not cleanable. Plus the casing can always be reused with any type of wire. I know titanium is not one of the more popular types of metal, but since I am using them at what I consider to be the low end of the temp scale, there is very little chance I will ever burn them, unless I just don't pay any attention to when the tank goes dry. I had always shy'ed away from tc before, I guess because I didn't think you could teach an ole dog new tricks, but really this was far easier than I ever imagined. Just goes to show you never know until you try. lol

 

[KenD]

Since this is my first experience with it, I have read you can take a brush and do what you are suggesting to clean it. I will have to keep digging into what is the best way. If all else fails, the price was low enough to just pitch the wire if they are not cleanable. Plus the casing can always be reused with any type of wire. I know titanium is not one of the more popular types of metal, but since I am using them at what I consider to be the low end of the temp scale, there is very little chance I will ever burn them, unless I just don't pay any attention to when the tank goes dry. I had always shy'ed away from tc before, I guess because I didn't think you could teach an ole dog new tricks, but really this was far easier than I ever imagined. Just goes to show you never know until you try. lol

There's a good likelihood that you'd burn the rubber insulators on the clr coils so better not dry burn anyway.

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[DaveP]

There's a good likelihood that you'd burn the rubber insulators on the clr coils so better not dry burn anyway.

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Good point. I was referring to my experiences with RTA/RBA coils. I remember the little brown marks on eGo coils when we used resistance wire to recoil Protank heads.