Smok Tech sid

[kateress]

So I'm looking into getting my first vaporizer after watching my sister enjoy hers and trying hers out a couple times. After a lot of googling and asking questions on here, I decided that I really really REALLY want a Provari Mini, but I don't have that kind of money to spend. So now I'm really considering the sid. After getting a lot of very mixed reviews on the others I was looking into (lavatube, vamo) no one seemed to have too bad of an opinion on the sid.

The problem now is I don't see it sold anywhere as a starter kit. I don't know what kind of charger I should buy. Or batteries. Or tanks. Or ANYTHING. This is my very first time getting any of these things. I read somewhere that the sid has a tight-fitting battery tube, so if anyone has one please let me know what kind of batteries work well in it. Also I need to know if there are any other reputable online vendors besides fasttech. My sister ordered her stuff there and it took 2 MONTHS. Pffft.... call me inpatient but I don't want to wait that long. This girl wants one now. (yeah I know, first world problems).

Thanks in advance for any responses!

 

[kateress]

Really? No one has anything to say. Guess it's back to my friend Google.

 

[CreepyLady]

Hello

I have only used a SID once it belonged to a friend. Nothing great or bad really - well except the major issue with proper fit for batteries. Here is a thread that has posts from SID owners that may help http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...es/527761-smoktech-sid-opinion-questions.html

An equivalently priced device with decent reviews- sigelei zmax. Definitely worth consideration. (sigelei anything really - they seem to be decent, sturdy and what not)

The problem now is I don't see it sold anywhere as a starter kit. I don't know what kind of charger I should buy. Or batteries. Or tanks. Or ANYTHING.

Not a grand idea to purchase any removable battery devices as starter kits. They include crappy low performance no name batteries and even worse chargers. These should be immediately replaced and the no names disposed of properly or moved into a flashlight where they belong. If your charger cannot properly fully charge, not overcharge etc your device will not work. So these parts are irrelevant to existence.

Once you decide on an APV use this for finding a quality charger and good batteries from a reputable vendor. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

Vendors to look through Forum Suppliers

Sorry no one answered! I hope this helps get you started on what you need

 

[DingerCPA]

Sorry - I don't know anything about the SID, but I have an MVP2 and VV3 which I think are pretty darn nifty devices. Both these are pass-through batteries, meaning you can use them while charging. They are 510/eGo threaded, so lots of different toppers are compatible.

The MVP is about $40 and the VV3 about $25 from 101Vape.com. The MVP is shaped like a pack of cigarettes, but narrower. The VV3 is about the size of a "4-knuckled finger" (for lack of better description) Both these devices are VV/VW, so you can "set 'n' forget".

Everyone's tastes in hardware are different - you'll read 100 posts, and there will be 100 different opinions of what's best. If it works for YOU, then that's what's best.

I haven't traveled down the path of replaceable batteries (yet). I'm quite content with my setups, but that doesn't mean I'm not looking.

Welcome, and good luck

 

[Panorama911]

Ask and you shall receive

SID by SMOK Variable Voltage Variable Wattage Mod Kit - NettMix Custom Vapes

Now you can purchase all the extras anyplace if you buy the mod by itself. And if you are looking to save some cash, just be sure to utilize the coupons from vendors registered on ECF....very top of the page^^^^^^

 

[JustTheTip]

The MVP has more features and costs a fraction of the price of the provari (in the UK.)

I can get four days out of the battery and it's solidly built. You may go on to buy fancy gear in the future but anything can fail - having one of these means you've always got something you can chuck in your bag for emergencies.

Other PVs in this price range all seem to have pretty major flaws in design and construction, you can't beat the MVP - for the money. You don't need to buy a charger or batteries either.

 

[5spike]

Hello kateress
I have a sid and yes couldn't even get a battery in it till I made up a little drum sander and sanded out the tube. That was months ago so maybe they sorted it out by now idk. What kind of setup does your sister have that you tried? I still recommend to my friends just getting started a evod and ego. Easy to use and fairly easy to start rebuilding coils for if you want. I still use it for running around out and about.
I just ordered a RDA from fastech and it only took 4 days .Unbelievable, so maybe there getting better.

 

[Miata GT]

The SID was my first 'real mod' after coming off eGo sticks and I still have it. I have had zero issues with it, including battery fitment. It also has the benefit of having eGo threading so if you have had those atty's you don't need an adapter to use them.

My next was an MVP2.0 and it's a great device, too. For the money the SID is a quality product.

 

[djsvapour]

Just in case this thread is still live...

The SID takes independent batteries which require a charger. In the UK, the SID is £35, the battery(s) about £5 and the charger £12.

So, that would be £57 for a two battery kit. That's $95. ($110 is acceptable with extras, but the batteries and charger are not good enough).

Totally possible to buy it as separates.

I have heard complaints about the SID, but mostly they aren't too common. Mine has been perfect for 7 months. I thought it was playing up, but actually it was my battery.

 

[ruet]

You can get a SID and batteries from Mister-E-Liquid. Silver and purple are the only options listed on their site but IIRC they had some other colors available in-store when I was there on Saturday. ...if you wanted to drive over and pick one up. They have a ton of hardware in-store and all of their juice is available to sample as well. Well worth a day-trip IMO.

Smok Tech SID from Mister-E-Liquid
Panasonic NCR18650B from Mister-E-Liquid

The battery I linked to lasts me 1.5-2 days in my SID and fits just fine. As far as the SID goes; I picked one up on Black Friday last year and it has worked, pretty much, without issue. The only thing I have run into is that if knocked over the + battery post insulator can get pushed out of position and needs to be pushed back in place.

 

[BostonVape]

Really? No one has anything to say. Guess it's back to my friend Google.

lol.. gotta give people a chance to respond.. 6:30am is not the ideal time to get an immediate response back..

If you don't want to buy a separate battery and charger, I would suggest an MVP v2 .. the charge lasts for days and it has everything the SID has.. the kit is about 40$ and comes with a tank / charger as well.

 

[Baditude]

I don't have a SID. It is made by Smoktech (a Chinese company). I have a Smoktech Gripper, a Smoktech Variable Voltage Gripper, and had a Smoktech Mini ZMax.

The only one I still occassionally use is the mechanical Gripper. The VV Gripper is in a drawer (It broke after 6 weeks when the front buttons and display fell into the body). The Mini ZMax had a harsh vape and I gave it to my college-age daughter who vapes. All the Smoktech variable voltage mods use the 33.3 Hz chip ("rattlesnake effect") which IMO provide a harsh vape when compared to a Provari or MVP. Other than my mechanical Gripper (only $8 at Mad Vapes), I'm not a huge fan of Smoktech products.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

I would suggest you look into the Innokin iTaste MVP2. I have the original MVP1, and it is a nice little regulated mod once you adjust to the boxy form factor. It gives a smooth vape like a Provari and has unmatched battery time on a charge (up to 3 days); you can even use it while it charges. This uses an internal battery which uses a USB charging cord (No need to purchase external batteries and charger).



If you must have a tube form mod, I'd recommend a Segelei ZMax. Made by a better manufacturer than Smoktech, IMHO. You can get these in an 18650 battery size, a Mini 18350 battery size, and a telescopic version that will accept an 19350, 18490, and 18650 battery. Below is a red Segelei Mini ZMax next to a black Mini Provari.



If you choose a mod requiring external batteries and charger, use the following link for battery recommendations. I recommend buying your batteries & charger from RTD Vaper, a popular ECF recommended vendor for batteries and chargers.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

RTD Vapor

I understand the Provari might seem to be out of your budget, but realize that a Provari is a long term investment for your future as a vaper. It will last much longer than any of the above mods made in China, and in the rare event that it should break or dysfunction, it can always be returned to Provape for repair - something that you can't do with any of the above mods. Consider how much money you spend on cigarettes a month. A pack per day smoker usually spends at least $180 a month - a Provari costs $160.

Why Provari?

 

[gin828]

I bought my SID from Fasttech about 4 months ago. Its been a really good device for me. I wanted to try something Provari like before spending money on one. I did not have any issues with the battery not fitting or beening tight. My threads were nice and smooth on the caps and 510/ego connections.

I am a heavy vaper so I used it and take it every where. Not one issue. I keep my SID clean, every few days i clean my threads with alcohol and soft tooth brush. I am very careful not to over tighten my connections. I wish the screen was a little brighter for adjusting outdoors but for the price I cant complain.

Now for some advice If you see yourself getting a provari later down the road get a device thats gonna take the same batteries. It will be easier on the wallet. Dont get the cheapest batteries either. Most people dont realize they are going to spend some coin on good batteries and a charger. Batteries and attys' can be switched from device to device, so get the best you can afford.

 

[Baditude]

Not a grand idea to purchase any removable battery devices as starter kits. They include crappy low performance no name batteries and even worse chargers. These should be immediately replaced and the no names disposed of properly or moved into a flashlight where they belong. If your charger cannot properly fully charge, not overcharge etc your device will not work. So these parts are irrelevant to existence.

I just wanted to add that I agree with the above comments. Most batteries and chargers included in a kit from China are extremely poor quality and not worth the risk of using in a device that we put right up to our face. These cheap batteries can be dangerous to use.

There are a lot of disreputable battery vendors in China. Many of these "generic" batteries are now known to be old batteries harvested from used laptop computers and new wraps put on the tubes. You wouldn't know unless you tore the wraps off of them. So, not just any battery will do for our purposes.

The chargers are bottom-of-the-barrel models which also can be dangerous to use. There have been a few reports of home fires caused by faulty cheap chargers.

Spend your money wisely on recognized quality (name brand) batteries and charger. They last a long time and are worth it in the long run.

 

[kateress]

Thank you Creepy Lady!

 

[kateress]

Thank you everyone! This is very helpful and exactly the kind of information I need.

 

[djsvapour]

You know, looking back, I agonized over buying my EVIC. When it broke I never even stopped to look at the possibilities, I just bought a SID in less than 5 minutes.

I knew I had exactly the right batteries (not all seem to fit well) and charger. I knew it wouldn't make toast and check my share prices (like the EVIC) but somehow it seemed to tick the right boxes.

I think the difference between the two attitudes might have been something to do with the (then) $80 price difference.

It's powering a quite beautiful Kafun clone today (the most expensive one I could find from China) and together they are a winning team.

...shame about my choice of liquid today....

 

[5spike]

Get your sister to buy a provari, give the sid to you, try her provari, decide to buy a provari anyway. See where this is going? Get what you need right away.

 

[ruet]

Get your sister to buy a provari, give the sid to you, try her provari, decide to buy a provari anyway. See where this is going? Get what you need right away.

Why would someone drop $177+ for a first device that vapes EXACTLY the same as a $55 device? Don't give me the PWM BS. ... does every single device recommendation thread have to devolve into a "GET TEH PROVARI NOWZ" thread? The OP said she doesn't have the money to spend on a GD Provari! It doesn't matter how great it is. It doesn't matter if, in the long run, it's a better value than device X. She said "SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY"! FFS!

 

[Larry777]

SID is a fine PV is you don't mind the way it fires the atomizer.

It uses a standard 18650 Battery and charger. Both are sold separately but can be used in most of todays mods.
Tanks are a personal choice, pick one you like and run with it.

What I mean by "the way it fires the atomizer" is this:
PWM vs. DC to DC
What does that gobbldy .... mean?
It mean the SID and most "older" variable wattage mods work by turning the power on and off really fast to achieve an "average wattage" that is what you set it to. What this means in practice is 1- you can set lower wattages more accurately than the higher powered devices 2- You may experience a buzzing or rattlesnake like sound and worst case feel sometimes when firing. Some folks hate this, some don't care.

The SID has "decent" guts and is easy to use and read the display.

What I'd "suggest" maybe similar but better in the same price range is 1- MVP 2.0 (easy mode with integrated battery box mod) 2- JoyTech Evic (tube mod with flash-able firmware updates, very good software)

Ordering from China is what it is, you get it cheaper, slower, and "maybe" quality. If it's strictly a price thing, go with what you can afford, if not PLEASE go visit a reputable brick and mortar store in your area and ask LOTS of questions first.

Happy Vaping, sorry I couldn't answer sooner, I was asleep