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HyOnLyph

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You should zip on over to the SmokeStik community and ask LoriKay13 about them. She's the expert. I, for one, would go with the SmokeStik.
I've got a SmokeStik, a 510, a 808 and a 302. Out of them all, I like the SmokeStik the best. It gives the best overall experience and the vapor is amazing. The cartos NEVER burn. And I can always count on their customer service and LIFETIME WARRANTY of their batteries. The SmokeStik batteries are not like regular 4081 batteries and their cartos are definitely not like other 4081 compatible cartos. (Although they are compatible.) You may find attys and carts that work just as good.
They are limited on the flavors. However I really like both of their flavors. Especially the menthol. You can wash them out if you don't like them and refill with a juice of your choice.
I've used their carto with a 808 and 510 battery adapter and it outperforms any carto I've used. However for the experience the SS automatic battery is still better.

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Well, I may purchase a SS once they come out with the Pitbull (depending on the reviews). But I won't buy pre-filled only... too many dollars leaving my pocket...

Many vapers vape at least 5 carto's a day... I know I do, or more. Even with the ECF discount i would be spending probably $20 a day (or more), lol. That is not much to my liking....If you only use 2 a day, not a big deal.

Their carto's are made differently however, so presumably better. So refilling them would work well, and they may last a bit... or i would think.
 

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Vaping Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance. Also, if you don't like the 510 atomizer due to it vaping hotter, then try an 801/BE112 atomizer on a 5 volt PV and you will have the best of both worlds: great throat hit without the burning of the liquid and batteries that last 8 hours.
 

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Well, I may purchase a SS once they come out with the Pitbull (depending on the reviews). But I won't buy pre-filled only... too many dollars leaving my pocket...

Many vapers vape at least 5 carto's a day... I know I do, or more. Even with the ECF discount i would be spending probably $20 a day (or more), lol. That is not much to my liking....If you only use 2 a day, not a big deal.

Their carto's are made differently however, so presumably better. So refilling them would work well, and they may last a bit... or i would think.
I've been using the same carto on a SS battery for 2 months. But I'm a light vaper. Still, I have not lost one yet.
 

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Vaping Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance. Also, if you don't like the 510 atomizer due to it vaping hotter, then try an 801/BE112 atomizer on a 5 volt PV and you will have the best of both worlds: great throat hit without the burning of the liquid and batteries that last 8 hours.

I thought so too until I used the SS.
 

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I'm not going to disagree with the comments about the 306 cartos as I have never used a carto of any kind on any e-cig, but I will say that the blu works just fine with a 306 drip tip, and it gives much better flavor than the 510. I think carts are a pain in the ... no matter which e-cig you're using. I didn't seem to get much more, IF ANY MORE AT ALL, life out of a 510 cart than I could out of a blu cart(note: I'm NOT talking about 100% stock carts. I never even bothered with the 510 stock carts. As soon as I got my 510, I replaced the filler with blue foam. The juice that comes with the blu is nasty as hell to me, and the filler sucks).Dripping is just so much more convenient. Cartos might be nice too, but I have no idea, and I can't see them being much better than carts simply because I STILL have to carry around different cartos if I want different flavors of juice, so it's just like carrying the carts, except that if I lose one, I'm out more money than i would be with just the cart, and I'm also out an atomizer then. plus I STILL would have to carry juice bottles to refill my cartos when they run out... Dripping is the most convenient. Whether I use carts or cartos, I still need juice bottles and extra cartos. With carts, I need juice bottles and extra carts, PLUS I need a stupid paperclip. With a drip tip, all I need is the bottles. And it tastes so much better than it would if I used carts. I don't know how cartos compare as far as flavor goes, but screw it. I'm happy with my bottles and drip tip. And I'm very happy with both my Blu and my 510. I like the battery life and juice capacity of the 510, and I like the flavor of the blu atty.

And I don't know what all you people are talking about with inconsistent vapor with a blu because it works just fine for me with a drip tip. I get clouds consistently unless the atty is either flooded or bone dry. So if you already have a blu and you're not happy with it, at least give it another try with a 306 drip tip from NuVapor(or wherever else you can find 'em) OR a 306 carto. It really CAB give good vapor. Anybody who says it can't was just too dumb or impatient to figure out how to make it do so, or they simply have no idea what they're talking about.

Now don't get me wrong here, the blu is still overpriced. And I know absolutely nothing about the smoke stick. I'm simply saying that the ONLY bashing of Blu that is NOT unfounded is short battery life(well what do you expect with such a small batter anyway? It's not much bigger than a AAA) and the fact that it's overpriced(for this reason, I suggest you just get a 510. It's actually cheaper, and batteries will last longer). I never had to wait more than a week after I ordered to get anything from Blu. When I had to deal with their customer service, I was able to speak to a real human immediately.

If you must have an L88B(that's blu's model number), just get it from Volcano(www.volcanoecigs.com). Even though I haven't experienced any of the problems with blu that so many people claim they have, I know that volcano gives you reward points, that as far as I understand, give you store credit toward future purchases. They also offer bulk discounts on spare parts. And even though they're in Hawaii, I get my packages pretty damn quickly from them.

Just so you know, the Magma is a 510 model, but I think it's overpriced at $80. You only get one atomizer. For $40, you can get a 510 kit without a PCC. Then you can buy a PCC for like $20 or get the "Magma Carry Case Charger," which is a different type of PCC for $15. Then you're looking at $55 or $60 for the exact same thing Volcano charges $80 for, and you end up with an extra atomizer on top of it.

If you do decide to get a 510, I know there are other sites too, but I got mine from www.mypvshop.com. They let you pick battery colors, LED colors, type/flavor/strength of cartridges, and type of charger for $40 with coupon code: IVAPE10.

http://www.mypvshop.com/store/electronic-cigarettes/joye510/kit/
 
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I've been using the same carto on a SS battery for 2 months. But I'm a light vaper. Still, I have not lost one yet.

Ok, and why I was considering them for some cartos. Of course my 4081 is about toast, so would need a whole new outfit as well. I have the EGO, no hurry and can wait. I want something small to go with it - eventually.

But those people only buying pre-filled and thowing them away are insane, or money is a non-issue. Even then, flavor.... But to each their own...
 
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If your choice is definitely going to be between a Blu or a Smokestik, get a Smokestik.

Are you friggin' serious? That's TERRIBLE advice. He'd be better off buying a blu. The smokestik starter kit's like 100 bucksk. Screw that. Save your money and get a 510 kit plus PCC for the same price as a blu starter kit would cost you. I would never spend 100 bucks on a starter kit unless, in addition to giving me the nicotine I want, it also scratches my balls for me... Definitely DO NOT get a smoke stick. Replacement batteries are $23. This crap is even MORE overpriced than the Blu. Get a 510. Trust me, you will be happier. For like 4 cents more than what you'll pay for ONE smokestik battery, you can get FIVE 510 batteries here: 510 TITAN Electronic Cigarette 5 x Manual Battery Multi Pack
 
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How long have you been smoke free Magnus? Just wondering. I'd like to get an idea of how much people smoked that can actually get by using these smaller models. For me, they just couldn't cut the mustard lol. Always seemed like I was taking an eternal drag to get a somewhat satisfying hit. Try that on my Kaji journeyman lol, you'll have to go the hospital. About a 1 to 1.5 second drag and you exhale a thick cloud.
 

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Are you friggin' serious? That's TERRIBLE advice. He'd be better off buying a blu. The smokestik starter kit's like 100 bucksk. Screw that. Save your money and get a 510 kit plus PCC for the same price as a blu starter kit would cost you. I would never spend 100 bucks on a starter kit unless, in addition to giving me the nicotine I want, it also scratches my balls for me... Definitely DO NOT get a smoke stick. Replacement batteries are $23. This crap is even MORE overpriced than the Blu. Get a 510. Trust me, you will be happier. For like 4 cents more than what you'll pay for ONE smokestik battery, you can get FIVE 510 batteries here: 510 TITAN Electronic Cigarette 5 x Manual Battery Multi Pack
Yes, I'm friggin serious.

From what I understand, the Smokestik is really becoming one of the best automatic cartomizer models you can buy.
And hey, all the celebrities are using it!!
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And since it is an RN4081 you can get all the parts you need, including a manual battery.
And if you want to use an atomizer, the RN4081 is a great little atomizer.

If price is a concern, then sure, get something else.
 
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Ok, and why I was considering them for some cartos. Of course my 4081 is about toast, so would need a whole new outfit as well. I have the EGO, no hurry and can wait. I want something small to go with it - eventually.

But those people only buying pre-filled and thowing them away are insane, or money is a non-issue. Even then, flavor.... But to each their own...

I bought a 510 to 4081 adapter from GoodProphets.com Your View into the World of Vaping.... It was only $0.99 and I can use the SS Cartos on my 510. Perhaps you could try it with your eGo. Not sure but wouldn't that work?? ... voltage wise I mean???
 

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Well, the price is definitely a concern. That's why I mentioned it. I don't know anything about how well it performs as I haven't used it, but I still have to ask, couldn't you just use a carto on a 510? Does the smoke stik get a lot better battery life or something? What exactly makes it "one of the best" auto cartomizer models, and why does it matter whether it's auto or manual? As far as I understand, you can get a manual or auto battery for just about any e-cig model. What's so great about it? It's not that I think you're full of crap or anything like that, but I don't understand why it's so great. Maybe if it's super durable to the point where the cost is offset by the fact that you almost never have to replace parts, I could see it.

Okay, so upon doing a google search on "RN4081," I see that there are lots of places that sell it a lot cheaper than smoke stik's website... So I guess go for a smoke stik, just don't get their brand. Get it from someplace that won't rip you off like that. For what they want for a battery, I see some places selling an entire KIT.

I'm guessing, judging by that smiley face, that your comment about all celebrities using it was at least slightly sarcastic. Regardless of whether it was or not, I don't really give a rat's ... what celebrities are doing or endorsing. And I mean no disrespect to you by stating that whatsoever. I'm just trying to make it clear that I make my own decisions that are not swayed by the endorsement/use of some stupid actor/football player/whatever... Not to say that Katherine Heigl is stupid necessarily. I have no idea. I just know that I don't care what brand of anything she prefers because I'm not Katherine Heigl.

Well, I'm not really smoke free. I still smoke, but not NEARLY as much as I did. I started vaping right around August 12. It's now October 27th. I'm at about 3 and a half months. In that time, I've bought about 4 or 5 packs of cigarettes. I was never a heavy smoker to begin with, but I could easily go thru a pack in 2 days. I'm not smoking because the Blu or the 510 aren't cutting it. I never really got "cravings," at least not as I hear people describe them. Like I've never been in a situation where I felt I really NEEDED a cigarette, like if I don't get one, I'm gonna kill the next person who looks at me wrong. I don't get irritable without cigarettes, and the reason I started smoking cigarettes, and the reason why I continue to smoke cigarettes, is because they enhance the effect of something else I like to smoke as well. They also cover up the smell of that other thing. But also, even though I know cigarettes are not good for me, I enjoy the nicotine buzz and the extra sensation of relaxation I get from cigarettes that e-cigs simply don't provide. Also, I've always been a bit of a social smoker, so the more I'm around people smoking, the more I do it too. And I vape a lot more than I ever smoked. I don't generally chain vape, but I've come pretty damn close.

I'd say if you smoked half a pack a day or less, the blu should be fine for you. I could go thru a full pack in a day, but would never keep that up every day. However, looking at the cost, there is no reason to spend $60 on a blu kit. Buying the parts separately is even worse. The Blu works just fine. I have no problem with it. I just wish I'd known about the 510 and where to get it at a decent price first because it's better AND cheaper. My biggest concern when looking for my first e-cig was cost. I came across the blu, those stupid "free trials"/as seen on TV crap, and the green smoke. Without coming here, just by looking at the sites, I could tell the 2nd option was definitely not an option. The green smoke is ridiculously overpriced, so I went with the blu. It's overpriced too, but I don't think it's qiute as badly overpriced as the green smoke. Then again, I haven't used the green smoke. At the time, too, I had no plans of refilling(i didn't even know you could with green smoke), so I was looking at upkeep price. Blu seemed cheaper. But now it doesn't matter cuz I don't even use cartridges or cartomizers at all. I just drip with my drip tips. Size and look were never incredibly important to me. I didn't want to trick myself into thinking these were real cigarettes to be able to quit. I was going mostly on price. However, at the same time, I did still think that it would be more convenient being the size of a cigarette. It just wasn't necessary. I still say it's convenient, but the 510 isn't any less convenient except maybe for the fact that it's too heavy to hold behind my ear, which the blu is not. It just sucks that there's nowhere to get a generic L88B besides China. You're forced to pay for the branding if you want one. I don't regret my purchase. That is, I don't wish I hadn't bought it. I just wish I'd bought it for less. Because even though it doesn't make as much vapor as a 510, and the battery doesn't last as long, it makes the vapor taste AMAZING.

EDIT: One thing I HATE about the L88B model, and I was just reminded of this after submitting this post... And that is... When your battery "dies," it blinks like 30 times, but then sometimes after that, you can still take a drag or two before it blinks again. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. But the point is that I'm not always sure when my battery is totally dead. When the 510 battery blinks like that, if you hit the button or inhale some more, NOTHING happens. The LED on the battery just stays dead, indicating that it is in fact totally dead. I'm never sure with the blu if I'm just dragging on it too much, or if it's really dead. For those of you who don't know, the blu is supposed to blink 10 times when you've taken too many drags in a certain period of time, and it won't activate or stop blinking again until you wait a few minutes. It's supposed to be a safety mechanism so you don't take in too much nicotine.

One last thing here... It's Magus, not Magnus, Mangus, Magnesium, Manganese, Mandarin, or anything else. It's just Magus, please. There is no N in my name. If you want any more information, feel free to ask, and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
 
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@Magus...

Most points are valid. Why I always say "understand the MODEL you want with the pros/cons and THEN decide on a brand".

A 4081 is not powerful enough for heavy smokers - in my view. The SS batteries are alleged to be a bit better as well as their cartos. However, worth the price difference? Not for most. For some, yes.

As far as a carto on a 510... of course. That is the option many people choose, including me. However, the taste is different with every model. So the taste from a 4081 will not be the same as a 510. it just won't. Some like X models better and others Y for this very reason.

Regarding the mass marketed ecigs, there are two problems: they generally use a low end ecig model and they are VERY expensive. They choose the models they do to SELL them based on a look - not performance.

For instance the Green Smoke you mention is an E9. Is the E9 a good model to buy? NO.
 
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Pricey yeah. But I guess ya gotta weigh the Batteries Guaranteed for life and the 20% ECF discount on everything against the price. Some people like to change things up and the guarantee wouldn't matter anyway because they want to try different stuff. Other's really like the SS and stick with it for a long time. It's certainly a matter of choice. The original post was either / or. Blu or SS. From what I've heard, the Blu is garbage. The SmokeStik is top of the line quality ... (and Katherine Heigl uses it. :) )
 
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