Smoking and Respiratory Problems

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I was talking to one of the respiratory therapists at our company and he thought e-cigarettes might be better than smoking regular cigarettes.

Do you think this is true? I understand that most people think it is best to stop smoking completely, but I know that is easier said than done.

Are there a lot of respiratory problems caused by e-cigarettes or are these much worse with regular cigarettes?

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leftfeild

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The argument for ecigs in a nutshell is that cigarettes are shown to cause respitory problems, and ecigs so far have not shown to cause respitory problems.

You are right, in that inhaling nothing but clean air will be the best thing for your body. Ecigs are a way to get nicotine by inhalation that cuts out burning tobacco and carcinogens as a result, plus 4000+ chemicals they put in cigarettes.

You might want to check out the health section ( Health and Medical Issues ) of this forum for a better idea of what's happening right now.

No one can say for sure that ecigs will cause no problems or that they are completely safe compared to cigarettes. What can be said is, in theory ecigarettes are much safer than cigarettes but as they're "new" with no long term effect studies done, no one can say in all certainty they actually are or will be.
 

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All I have is personal experience to share, after starting vaping I still had shortness of breath for about 2 months. Then I discovered that PG loosens mucous and other nasties in your lungs and the coughing started, for a week and half to two weeks I coughed up all sorts of stuff. Since then I breath a lot better and have more energy than when I was smoking. Still you will want to check out the Health and Medical Issues sub forum and learn a bit more.
 

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Only personal experience here too. 37 years of smoking and almost all of that time unfiltered hand rolled cigs. Every night I lay down I would keep myself or my wife (or both) awake wheezing. Since I started vaping the wheeze has gone and I can breathe still after a flight of stairs. I personally believe that vaping is hugely less harmful to the lungs, that has been my experience anyway.
 

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My mom has COPD and her physician recommended it. But this is something you have to research and decide for yourself. We aren't doctors, just people on a message board that vape. Check the links in the Health Section and decide. Reading all the data I'm comfortable and thrilled with the fact that I'm no longer smoking cigarettes.

Now I really have to get out of this thread before I read the silly 'no one knows if it's safe' posts that are sure to come because they tend to make me want to hurt someone and that will be hazardous to someone's health.
 

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It's unlikely that your respiratory therapist would suggest e-cigarettes if inhaling flavored water vapor would be contraindicated by your specific, individual medical condition.

That said, you should double-check with a Smart Shaman ** doctor, who has had all those particular tickets punched, as a matter of cultural sensitivity if nothing else.

If your Smart Shaman finds no legitimate medical reason why using e-cigarettes (with or without nicotine) would be harmful to you, as you will learn poking around here, it is not at all unusual to experience coughing, various tissue irritations, from throat to lips to tongue and back again, AT FIRST, but this does go away.

It may take longer to go away if you are in particularly pathetic physical shape, older than dirt, or, like me, both.

I just started not quite 2 months ago, and my coughing (which was way worse than I ever did from inhaling any plant material, and I lived through the 60s) - has only recently subsided.

You can mitigate the coughing some by alternating between nicotine-free and nicotine-havin' flavors - just keep 2 e-cigarettes handy!

Everybody will evangelize about their own preferred device, (this is a cherished ECF custom) so I'll go ahead and get mine in:

The easiest thing to start with is one that only requires you to attach 2 things together, as opposed to 3. It's called KR808d-1.

So if you're out and about more than you are in front of your computer, get one of the starter kits from vapor4life. All theirs are the KR808d-1 kind. Please forgive the pimpage, but I did a huge blogrant all about this very thing, and it is more ergonomic and better for the environmental impact on the ECF bandwidth to link to it than type it again.

If you stay in one place most of the time, you can save some money by getting the kind of KR808d-1 you can plug into the wall and a Special Wall Rodent - $10 each at litecigusa.

Both vapor4life and litecigusa.net are Forum Suppliers, which is ECF's list of reputable vendors. Scam artists, snake oil salesoaves and criminals cannot even buy their way onto it. This really is a very different kind of website. You're going to love it here!

** Smart Shaman smärt shämən n. A person who has not only graduated from medical school and obtained all the paperwork necessary for the legal practice of medicine in the geographic area where the paperwork was obtained, but who, in addition to a familiarity with the particulars of human biology, anatomy, physiology, and the basic precepts of clinical pathology, also and more importantly, possesses the capacity for, is in favor of, and personally and with frequency and regularity engages in, activities such as independent thought, reading (with full comprehension of the read material), and perhaps most crucial of all, the recognition and acceptance that none of us knows yingtipiddle about anything. ORIGIN: Proto-loladic, early 21st century
 
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lolady

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FWIW, a 510 or Ego can be a two piece device also (battery and cartomizer). With them you also have the option of using cart & atty if you chose to, but many people (me) just use it as a two piece device. That's not unique to a KR808.

But everybody knows that people who use KR808D-1s have 88% fewer unsightly blemishes and get Perfect Rice Every Time.

Actually, you (I think it was you) have told me that before, and I meant to ask you then, but forgot, since you do it that way, would you commit a blogrant that tells about it?

Here are some compelling reasons why I hope you will do it:

That 510 ones can be just 2 pieces doesn't seem to be as widely advertised. Even when they are suggested to new people, it's usually in terms of the 3 piece way. Or so it seems to me.

At the risk of being disloyal to my chosen team and sect, this would actually give the 510 ones TWO big advantages over KR808d-1, the first being that more of the 510 ones can be hooked up to the never-ending stream of latest and greatest devices, which effectively removes what I understand to be the principal disadvantage of 510s - a smaller number of electricity globules.

Sometimes not even the new person's ownself knows if they will turn out to be one of those people who likes to fiddle and tinker and try all the new things that plop out onto the market, or whether they will be like me, and marry the first boy they kiss. **

You and dormouse are both so good at explaining things, yet neither of you has a blog.

Sooner or later, the population is going to begin clamoring for this distressing circumstance to be rectified.

...the newer KR808's are awesome...

Thank You Shannon! I am so glad you did, I completely forgot about those, and especially somebody with respiratory problems might like the new electric hookah-doodles better especially, for the gentler throat hit feature!

I've thought about getting one of the "2nd generation" wireless ones, if they ever make one with a light-up jewel on the end (of critical importance for my aesthetic health needs) but I'm not sure if I could use all the same chargers and things with it, and I'm a firm believer in universal stuff compatibility for the heavily sedated and chronically confused, as part of a conscientiously applied explosion reduction strategy.


** Full TMI disclosure: That was 100% metaphor. I had to kiss an unreasonably large pile of frogs before acquiring Prince Mr lolady (who was rapidly promoted to King and Emperor, which status he enjoys to this day)
 

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    in a cave, eh?
    Both PG and VG have been in use for a very long time even if we're still looking for that "definitive" long-term study to validate vaping. Also, some people are sensitive to pure PG, others to pure VG. And some flavors can cause an allergic reaction for people.

    Definitely recommend it over smoking. Although, you may find when you're starting that your lungs cleaning themselves out from all those cigs may cause you some discomfort for a while.
     

    bobsyeruncle

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    in a cave, eh?
    I'd be happy w/ a definitive long-term study to validate fruits and vegetables.
    What about those pesticides?
    Might not have to eat that spinach after all.

    Yeah, I don't think anyone's going to be bowled over from the results of long-term studies. It won't be anything like the long-term smoking effects that cigarette companies were trying to hide.

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    When I started being interested by ecigs I considered this: is it better to put solids or liquids in my lungs? Smoke is basically fine dust (solids) and vapor is a mixture of gas and droplets of liquid. Everything else being equal, I think that our lungs are better equipped to deal with a little liquid than with dust.

    Well, I've spent several minutes hacking up small liquids that went down the wrong pipe. But the fine mist from vaping is no problem at all.
     
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    respiratory

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    1) Well, I was up to 3 PAD and thought my lung was going to collapse and die at any minute now my lungs are like 20 years ago...
    2) Tell the resp ther to chain vape for 30 min then chain smoke for 30 min and see what happens... ;)

    He's not a smoker, but thought it makes sense that it would be better to smoke ecigs than analogs.
     
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