smoking ban murder (e-cig could have saved a life here)
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It has always been my assertion that ... holes like these orbit one another like planets and asteroids.....randomly circling each other and producing spectacular results like this when they collide with one another.
Poor guy got shot and killed...but what business did he have snatching up their cigs??
And what kinda person is so confrontational that he just lights up in CLEAR violation of a law (however unfair and misguided) ehhhh....I've already thought about this one too long.
Poor guy got shot and killed...but what business did he have snatching up their cigs??
And what kinda person is so confrontational that he just lights up in CLEAR violation of a law (however unfair and misguided) ehhhh....I've already thought about this one too long.
i think nicotine can tho... its why i use the stuff... it helps keep me sane.. he he
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I loved this: "I'm deeply saddened that the first smoking-ban murder occurred in our town," Saruhanli Mayor Veli Yalcin told Hurriyet.
Does this mean they expect more? I know we take smoking seriously, but sheesh!
Does this mean they expect more? I know we take smoking seriously, but sheesh!
This happened to a bouncer in a nightclub in NYC when the smoking banned first happened near here. But he was stabbed to death.
All I can say is it's not right, but there is something that the owner did wrong.
(1) He confiscated the cigarettes. He should have not touched it. His job is not to uphold the law.
(2) He didn't call the police right away.
Here is the link for the bouncer killed in NYC:
Bouncer killed 'over New York smoking ban' - Americas, World - The Independent
All I can say is it's not right, but there is something that the owner did wrong.
(1) He confiscated the cigarettes. He should have not touched it. His job is not to uphold the law.
(2) He didn't call the police right away.
Here is the link for the bouncer killed in NYC:
Bouncer killed 'over New York smoking ban' - Americas, World - The Independent
I would bet that the murder had more to do with alcohol consumption than a smoking ban.
Turkish Raki seems to cause temporary insanity if you drink too much.
Raki is like Ouzo or Anisette and it's rumored to sometimes contain traces of opium.
It is tasty though, I lived in Izmir for a while.
Turkish Raki seems to cause temporary insanity if you drink too much.
Raki is like Ouzo or Anisette and it's rumored to sometimes contain traces of opium.
It is tasty though, I lived in Izmir for a while.
This shows just how powerful an addictive substance nicotine really is. When you restrict access, it brings out the worst in people.
Imagine the problems that will happen if and when the FDA starts cracking down on reducing nicotine in analogs? Whoo boy.
Imagine the problems that will happen if and when the FDA starts cracking down on reducing nicotine in analogs? Whoo boy.
I really don't think that it had anything to do with the nicotine, really. I would say that the guy who killed the guy had way more issues than just that. Probably an issue with authority and issues with himself.
A crack addict will kill for a fix. If someone took it away, death usually results. Nicotine is even worse. You think irrationally.
I have to agree that there was more going on then just nicotine here. Don't get me wrong I am sure the addictive nature of nicotine played a part but... Lots of us "sane rational" types have griped about being forced outdoors at our favorite bar without pulling a gun. In short I agree with both of you.
People just don't get the fact that without nicotine and something to puff on, many of us would be standing on a clock tower with a sniper rifle............times I've quit smoking in the past people begged me to start back up.
I'm going to have to disagree with you, respectfully. Crack and nicotine are nothing alike. I don't think that it's that hard for people to go to work and not smoke until their smoke breaks without killing people because they can't smoke. I've never known anyone who has been to the point of where if they don't have a cig right now that they are going to start shooting people.
I think that the guy in the story was probably some kind of troubled person that had a checkered past.
lol You and me both ... something about giving new meaning to the word "....." *shrugs* ... I dunno ....
Honestly, when I hear people say things like that, I think that they are exaggerating. Not to offend you or anything. But really, how many people who don't have mental issues (huuuuuge ones) of some sort, are actually going to literally do something like that just because they can't have a cig?
I have mental issues myself, but not so bad that I would do anything like that just because I can't have a smoke.
If someone snatched my ecig from my mouth my natural response would likely be violence. this doesn't mean I would act on that impulse. How I would choose to act is situational. ie if my mom just died I'd probably punch the offender right in his mouth. But on a normal day I would likely be a bit more peaceful. Either way under no circumstance would I pull a gun and start blasting.
What this really shows in my estimation is the culture that results from the anti smoker denormalization campaign against smokers. That campaign marches forward to the e cigarette community. It is the appearance of smoking, whether through real smoke or vapor, that is at war here. There is no difference between what happens to smokers as a result of this forced culture and what may happen to vapers as a result of the same mindset. WAKE UP
I'm thinking it may have had a lot to do with the guy being disrespected by the owner having his smokes taken away. Sorta like back in the old west days. An outlaw sitting at a bar half drunk and the bartender starts giving him shlt and finally grabs his whiskey away from him and gets shot for it. Hell, how many times have you read a story in the U.S. where some kid got shot in the head because he wouldn't give up his tennis shoes to a punk with a gun.
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