Smoking bans reach new level of ridiculousness

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MARK4567

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Here's a link I have used for "Retro candy"
NostalgicCandy.com

what about red food color #40 which is banned in the UK, but not here in the USA and is in a lot of food, and is known to cause cancer!!!

I could go on, but I'm sure most of you know it already...just needed to vent :mad:

Just to set this straight RED #40 does NOT cause cancer. SUDAN 1 (same color as red#40) MIGHT
Sudan 1 is banned in the UK and is not used at all in the USA
 

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Just to set this straight RED #40 does NOT cause cancer. SUDAN 1 (same color as red#40) MIGHT
Sudan 1 is banned in the UK and is not used at all in the USA

It was "thought" to have caused cancer...they now say it doesn't :confused:

Blue 1, for example, is banned in Belgium, France, Germany, Sweden, Austria, Norway and Switzerland, and Green 3 was banned across Europe after it was linked to the development of bladder tumors. but it is in our food...that's all I'm saying
 

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blue #1 WAS banned in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Norway, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland among others but has been certified as a safe food additive in the EU and is today unbanned in most of the countries. It has the capacity for inducing an allergic reaction in individuals with pre-existing moderate asthma In the United States production exceeds 1 million pounds annually, and daily consumption is around 16 mg per person.
 

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Green #3 FDA report Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

World Health Organization




1 Thirteenth report of the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food
Additives, FAO Nutrition Meetings Report Series, in press;
Wld Hlth Org. techn. Rep. Ser., in press.


FAST GREEN FCF

Biological Data

Biochemical aspects

Rats and dogs were given orally 200 mg of the colour. In the rats the
urine and faeces were collected for 36 hours. In the dogs a bile
fistula was made for bile analysis. Almost all (&gt90 per cent.) the
administered colour was excreted unchanged in the faeces of the rats.
No colour was found in the urine. In the bile of the dogs the amount
of the colour never exceeded five per cent. of the given dose. After
feeding, the colour was found in the bile of rats and rabbits, but not
in their urine. It was concluded that the quantity found in the bile
provides a reasonable estimate of the amount absorbed from the
gastrointestinal tract (Hoss & Fitzhugh, 1955, 1953 and 1954).

Acute toxicity



Animal Route LD50 Reference
per kg body-weight


rat oral &gt2.0 g Lu and Lavallée, 1964


Dog. The colour given in single 200 mg doses to dogs did not produce
catharsis (Radomski et al., 1956).

Short-term studies

Rat. Two groups of 16 female rats (control group of 10 rats) were
given subcutaneous injections of 0.5 ml of a three per cent. and six
per cent. solution. (The rats received with each injection
respectively 15 and 30 mg). The used colour was certified as 92 per
cent. pure and was supplied as the disodium sulphonate salt. The 10
control rats were given distilled water injections. At first,
injections of six per cent. were given three times a week; after 17
weeks it became necessary to reduce the dose to three per cent.
Thereafter, both groups were given injections of three per cent. twice
weekly for nine weeks. The rest of the time, 22 weeks, both groups
were injected usually once a week, occasionally two injections were
tolerated. Growth inhibition was found. Thirteen out of 16 animals
receiving six per cent. of the colour had fibrosarcomas. The animals
given three per cent. showed also fibrosarcomas (10 out of 12). The
controls did not show neoplastic tissue at the site of injection
(Hesselbach & O'Gara, 1960).

Subcutaneous injection of 1 ml of a 0.8 per cent. solution twice
weekly produced histological changes suggestive of subsequent sarcoma
formation unassociated with chemical carcinogenic potential (Grasso &
Goldberg, 1966).

Dog. Dog feeding studies were completed. Four beagles per group,
equally divided by sex, were fed at 0, 1.0 and 2.0 per cent. for two
years. Histopathology attributable to the colour was limited to green
blobs of pigment in the renal cortical tubular epithelial cytoplasm of
a male dog on a high dose level; a female dog on a high dose level
showed slight interstitial nephritis and slight bone marrow
hyperplasia (Hansen et al., 1966).

Long-term studies

Mouse. Chronic mouse feeding studies were conducted; two groups of
100 mice each were fed for two years at 1.0 and 2.0 per cent. and 200
mice served as controls. Microscopic examination revealed no lesions
that were attributed to the feeding of the colour (Hansen et al.,
1966)

Rat. Groups of 50 litter-mated weanling, Osborn-Mendel rats, evenly
divided by sex, were fed the colour at 0, 0.5, 1.0, 2.0 and 5.0 per
cent. for two years. No effects on growth or mortality were observed.
Microscopic examination revealed no lesions that were attributed to
the feeding of the colour (Hansen et al., 1966)

The colour was fed at a level of four per cent. in the diet to five
male and five female rats for periods from 18 to 20 months. This
procedure resulted in gross staining of the forestomach, glandular
stomach, small intestine, and colon. Granular deposits were noted in
the stomach. No tumours were observed (Willheim & Ivy, 1953).

Eighteen rats of both sexes were injected this colour subcutaneously
for 94 to 99 weeks. In general 1 ml of a two per cent. or three per
cent. solution was injected weekly. Subcutaneous fibrosarcomas
appeared at the site of injection in 15 of the animals (Nelson &
Hagan, 1953; Hansen et al., 1966).

Comments:

The production of a high percentage of local sarcomata, at the sites
of subcutaneous injections in rats has led in the past to considerable
discussion and consequently to extensive studies on this colour. The
production of these sarcomata is considered to be related to the
physico-chemical properties of the colour and the special conditions
of the experiment and does not constitute evidence of carcinogenicity
by the oral route. Biochemical studies have shown that the colour is
poorly absorbed and is almost completely excreted in the faeces after
parenteral administration. Extensive long-term studies in two species
are available, Biochemical studies on the metabolism using modem
techniques are desirable.

EVALUATION

Level causing toxicological effect

Rat. Five per cent. (= 50 000 ppm) in the diet equivalent to 25000
mg/kg body weight/day


REFERENCES

Grasso, P. & Goldberg, L. (1966) Fd. Cosmet. Toxicol., 4, 269

Hansen, W. H., Long, E. L., Davis, K. J., Nelson, A. A. & Fitzhugh, O.
G. (1966) Fd. Cosmet. Toxicol., 4, 389

Hess, S. M. & Fitzhugh, O. G. (1953) Fed. Proc., 12, 330

Hess, S. M. & Fitzhugh, O. G. (1954) Fed. Proc., 13, 365

Hess, S. M. & Fitzhugh, O. G. (1955) J. Pharmacol. exp. Ther., 114,
38

Hesselbach, M. L. & O'Gara, R. W. (1960) J. Nat. Cancer Inst., 24,
769

Lu, F. C. & Lavallée, A. (1964) Canad. pharm, J., 97, 30

Nelson, A. A. & Hagan, E. C. (1953) Fed. Proc., 12, 397

Radomski. J. L. & Deichmann, Wm. B. (1956) J. Pharmacol exp. Ther.,
118, 322

Willheim, R. & Ivy, A. C. (1953) Gastroenterology 23, 1
 

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Sudan 1, a food dye that has been recently banned in Europe. Sudan 1 food dye and Red 40 food dye are different by only a few atoms.

Food Dye in Your Food: Do You Know What You're Eating? - Associated Content

Also...laser printers produce tiny particles that are harmful...in fact if toner is spilled, you HAVE to call OSHA...my point was not to argue about red food color, just the non sense that is here and FDA does nothing about it knowing it's not safe

BRISBANE, Australia, August 1, 2007 (ENS) - Some of the laser printers used in offices and homes release tiny particles into the air that people can inhale deep into lungs where they may pose a health hazard, Australian scientists said today.
One of the 62 printers studied released particles at a rate comparable to the emissions from cigarette smoking, the researchers report.

Laser Printer Emissions Harmful to Human Health

But I heard about this on my local news...

Goodnight all ;)
 

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the whole idea about protecting the kids from wanting it is bunk. Pv's are the best way anyone has come up with to protect kids. By the way caffeine is very addictive and "bad" for you, and bad for children. But no one is banning it. "monster energy" drinks in the school vending machines. Is anyone worried that there is an entire generation of kids who can't spell their own name till they have had their "fix"? If they can justify banning smoking, they should ban caffeine too. Lets see all the anti-smoking bigots (who think I am wrong for wanting a Pv to start my day) get through their day with out their addiction. Make them go outside in 32 below weather for their Starbucks, chocolate bars, and Energy drinks. Tell them they can't have it in their car either.( they might cause some poor kid to get addicted too). After that why not ban birth control, After all it increases the risk of heart attack, stroke, and death, Then we can all vap up while we watch the Nazi anti smokers drive around freezing with no coffee and a whole car full of the disrespectful brats they have created.(while their kids wine about their withdrawal headaches and beg for a sip of mountain dew!!!!) Maybe that would teach them to respect other peoples rights.
 
As a sort of "pre-emptive strike"... We (this forum) could argue for *regulation* of e-cigs--and yes, I already don't like the sound of that myself, but if worse came to worse and the PC-Nazi's get their way, "regulation" would be less evil than "banning". And, yes (again), I know that regulation is a good general step in the overall banning process. But here's my thought, if we worked to shape general regulatory language, then we would at least get our input into the process, rather than having the process created completely without us by people who oppose our existance on personal opinion grounds.

And, to be honest (and candid), we could benefit from some well-thought-out regulation; standards for performance of devices, accurate claims, and some sort of certification for the nic products (nic is a deadly substance, after all, and not to be handled by ...... who inevitably force govt-mandated potty-training on the rest of us)...

Finally, if there are provisions within the law regulating something, it's a bit harder for others to claim that something is outright illegal. The government (or should I say "no government") takes the time to codify legislation defining the legal use of something it has outright banned...

Well, just a crazy thought... your mileage may vary...

-Qazz
 
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