I'd like to simply copy my reply to a CNN article found here. Please read the article for context. I have incorporated my latest edits for clarity. I encourage subject relevant replies that touch on the CDC, FDA, and other governmental jurisdiction, or how people feel about the bottom up or top down approach to regulation. Keep in mind, our founding documents lay a foundation that is in the spirit of the government using a bottom up approach. That is, less government without evidence of a detriment to the common good, or the will of the people. BathSalts are still legal, right? Kids huffing on reddi-wip? But none of these have been regulated? Why not? Why vaping? The answers may not be as crystal clear as you think!
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Jan,
This was some of the most lackluster reporting I've ever read. slipping and sliding from one unsubstantiated metaphor to the next. No real analysis to be found. So much infuriating bias is displayed here, I don't know where to start, and frankly, don't want to spend the time, but SOMEONE has to steer this ship, and I hope to God it happens quickly, because "tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of death in the united states." CDC Fact Sheet on Tobacco (440,000/year) . I'm horrified that one of the greatest health revolutions in modern history is being stifled, assassinated, seemingly offhandedly, by the US government and the press. Can anyone else "smell the money?"
You write...
"The real problem is that 88% of adult smokers who smoke daily said they started when they were kids, according to the CDC. Kids who start down the path to using e-cigarettes may stick with them for life."
Sorry folks, the real problem is that the government (and CNN) is equating a smoking problem to an activity that has NOTHING TO DO WITH SMOKING! Oh my gosh, the kids, we must stop this right away. If they are stuck for life with an addiction medically equivalent to caffeine, maybe we should ban e cigarettes AND all forms of caffeine delivery, no? Starbucks, you are going DOWN! Oh my gosh, they called a flavor fireball and other descriptive names. Let's ban them, and booze.
One of the worst decisions made in product development history is when they (don't even know who THEY are) named this product "E-CIGARETTE"! It's a vaporizer. Same thing as an asthmatic's inhaler. Many call them a Personal Vaporizer, or PV for short. A device that can be loaded with nicotine, caffeine, Vitamin B12, or... just plain ejuice with some nice flavor of choice! The very people trying to sell the thing unwittingly associated the act of using a safe nicotine delivery device with the dangerous traditional method it REPLACES.
Funny, Jen, how you breeze over the complete LACK of any of the carcinogenic byproducts of combustion. The known carcinogens of cigarette smoke, including radioactive polonium-210, is what's in store for those kids you may help prevent from getting their hands on a PV because the old standby was just as easy to get, and seemingly equivalently acceptable to the government and press for some reason.
The real questions that should be studied more closely include the short, medium and long term effects of inhalation of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin (the main components of ejuice), both at the user's concentrations and, if warranted, that of the average second hand vape exposure. Oops. Sorry, Jen, and the CDC, the equivalent of that research on PG was done in 1947 and since then it has been used in things such products as air disinfectants, asthma inhalers, consumer fog machines, oh geez, let's ban THOSE, and, yes, radiator fluid, which, by the way, also contains water, oh gosh, let's ban THAT!
EDIT: One additional, pivotal question must be answered ASAP for the CDC or FDA to back up their claim to authority... We need peer reviewed studies that show increased mortality from the sustained, long-term use of NICOTINE ALONE over and above any other equivalent freely available stimulant, such as caffeine. The rest is just hogwash. I have only searched for a few hours over the last few days, but have not found any such studies. I have yet to see any control groups to answer the question that may not have been, but is NOW, CENTRAL to the issue; what portion of the mortality increases seen in the plethora of tobacco studies is due to nicotine? I don't think vaping should be regulated by the government based solely on the current hyperbole being disseminated.
Big money interests, knee jerk reaction and personal bias guiding the all-powerful hands of government, journalism and other social institutions is ......ing the advancement of our nation and very way of life. These are the institutions that are, by their very nature, supposed to be protecting us from the toxic effects of these societal carcinogens.
_____________ Response to above cited article _________________
Jan,
This was some of the most lackluster reporting I've ever read. slipping and sliding from one unsubstantiated metaphor to the next. No real analysis to be found. So much infuriating bias is displayed here, I don't know where to start, and frankly, don't want to spend the time, but SOMEONE has to steer this ship, and I hope to God it happens quickly, because "tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of death in the united states." CDC Fact Sheet on Tobacco (440,000/year) . I'm horrified that one of the greatest health revolutions in modern history is being stifled, assassinated, seemingly offhandedly, by the US government and the press. Can anyone else "smell the money?"
You write...
"The real problem is that 88% of adult smokers who smoke daily said they started when they were kids, according to the CDC. Kids who start down the path to using e-cigarettes may stick with them for life."
Sorry folks, the real problem is that the government (and CNN) is equating a smoking problem to an activity that has NOTHING TO DO WITH SMOKING! Oh my gosh, the kids, we must stop this right away. If they are stuck for life with an addiction medically equivalent to caffeine, maybe we should ban e cigarettes AND all forms of caffeine delivery, no? Starbucks, you are going DOWN! Oh my gosh, they called a flavor fireball and other descriptive names. Let's ban them, and booze.
One of the worst decisions made in product development history is when they (don't even know who THEY are) named this product "E-CIGARETTE"! It's a vaporizer. Same thing as an asthmatic's inhaler. Many call them a Personal Vaporizer, or PV for short. A device that can be loaded with nicotine, caffeine, Vitamin B12, or... just plain ejuice with some nice flavor of choice! The very people trying to sell the thing unwittingly associated the act of using a safe nicotine delivery device with the dangerous traditional method it REPLACES.
Funny, Jen, how you breeze over the complete LACK of any of the carcinogenic byproducts of combustion. The known carcinogens of cigarette smoke, including radioactive polonium-210, is what's in store for those kids you may help prevent from getting their hands on a PV because the old standby was just as easy to get, and seemingly equivalently acceptable to the government and press for some reason.
The real questions that should be studied more closely include the short, medium and long term effects of inhalation of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin (the main components of ejuice), both at the user's concentrations and, if warranted, that of the average second hand vape exposure. Oops. Sorry, Jen, and the CDC, the equivalent of that research on PG was done in 1947 and since then it has been used in things such products as air disinfectants, asthma inhalers, consumer fog machines, oh geez, let's ban THOSE, and, yes, radiator fluid, which, by the way, also contains water, oh gosh, let's ban THAT!
EDIT: One additional, pivotal question must be answered ASAP for the CDC or FDA to back up their claim to authority... We need peer reviewed studies that show increased mortality from the sustained, long-term use of NICOTINE ALONE over and above any other equivalent freely available stimulant, such as caffeine. The rest is just hogwash. I have only searched for a few hours over the last few days, but have not found any such studies. I have yet to see any control groups to answer the question that may not have been, but is NOW, CENTRAL to the issue; what portion of the mortality increases seen in the plethora of tobacco studies is due to nicotine? I don't think vaping should be regulated by the government based solely on the current hyperbole being disseminated.
Big money interests, knee jerk reaction and personal bias guiding the all-powerful hands of government, journalism and other social institutions is ......ing the advancement of our nation and very way of life. These are the institutions that are, by their very nature, supposed to be protecting us from the toxic effects of these societal carcinogens.
