SmokTech RSST Genesis Rebuildable Atomizer

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mackman

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You know ifts a funny thing. iI have 2 of the RSST's one a stock airhole and one drilled out to 5/64. while the larger has a airier draw, for me the vapor production is pretty much the same. I use 110%VG juice and like both the draws. Personal preference plays a big part of the experience.
 

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I just typed all this and just now tried my RSST on my Magneto, and it barely fires.

I think that is due to your resistance. With a coil in the high 1's, on a mech, you are pushing under 10 watts. That is real low, IMHO, for a mech'd RBA.... and could be the reason for the anemic fire. The mesh does absorb a lot more heat than wick, so it might just be as simple as going down a half ohm or more.

Btw to the other poster, 28g works a lot better on a RBA.. 4 wraps or so puts you around 1 ohm, give or take, which will drive that RSST much better.

Gennys like power.
 

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The way I typed that made it sound....funky. My resistance is almost never ABOVE 1 (One) Ohm. And is more often around .7 or .8. That's for both my gennies, Fogger v2, and Ithaka clone.

btw, I've got the Magneto working fine now, I just had to adjust the center pin on any atty (RSST, AGA-T2, Ithaka clone, etc) more than I'm used to. But everything is kosher now. :)


I think that is due to your resistance. With a coil in the high 1's, on a mech, you are pushing under 10 watts. That is real low, IMHO, for a mech'd RBA.... and could be the reason for the anemic fire. The mesh does absorb a lot more heat than wick, so it might just be as simple as going down a half ohm or more.

Btw to the other poster, 28g works a lot better on a RBA.. 4 wraps or so puts you around 1 ohm, give or take, which will drive that RSST much better.

Gennys like power.
 

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Yep... a lot of devices come with really small holes. Makes sense though, it's better to be too small than too big.

Mine is at 1/16 right now, and I might go a little wider new that I've vaped on it a bit. I first thought it was really loose, but now that I've gotten used to it, it is starting to feel a little tight.
 

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Yep... a lot of devices come with really small holes. Makes sense though, it's better to be too small than too big.

Mine is at 1/16 right now, and I might go a little wider new that I've vaped on it a bit. I first thought it was really loose, but now that I've gotten used to it, it is starting to feel a little tight.

I have messed with air hole size quite a bit. I find 1/16 is the sweet spot for me. I went bigger with one, and regretted it. It is tough to go back, you know....
 

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Hey everyone!

My Smoktech Magneto and RSST Tank has arrived!

Here it is with my old siam mod tank
http://i.imgur.com/JFpOB0Y.jpg

I started building the atomizer as well today however not much success :glare:

I first started burning the mesh(400) with a lighter, then roll it and place it in. I then use the 28g wire and started coiling it and try to do it not too tight or loose with even spacing as I can. Once done, I started pulsing it and it seems to glow okay

http://i.imgur.com/BRGkOPS.jpg
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It seems alright so I started dripping a few drops of eliquid on it and pulse it some more, then proceed to fill my tank with the eliquid. However I think I'm having hotspot issues as the top part started glowing and the smoke were really harsh.
http://i.imgur.com/ZJnnhT6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PR66gld.jpg

I tried moving and adjusting the wire however the top part hotspot is still persisting. I'm not quite sure how to move forward. Can I just remove the coil and re-coil it again using the existing mesh since I've already put in the eliquid. Also is it okay to remove the coil and mesh and roll a new mesh and coil it again while the eliquid is in the tank as the mesh also seems to be a little bend already? :blink:

ps, I've also tried locking both ends of positive and negative inside rather than out but not much luck either.
 

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Have you tried moving just the positive end to the other side of the capture point? That sometimes fixes hot spots right up.

Your coil looks a little loose too. Try to get the top coil and the leg that runs to the capture screw at a 90-degree angle to the capture point. As in, make it run straight to the capture washer. If that makes sense. But I think you're off to a good start.
 

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hey zipflint!

Thank you for your reply! :toast:

I tried recoiling without removing the mesh and I can still see dark glowing orange which means hotspots right?

Could it also be the mesh that is causing the hotspot? I'm not quite sure what causes hotspots, loose coil that doesn't contact the mesh fully?

I did try moving the positive end to other side (from outside, now from the inside) but doesn't quite work.

Did 3 recoil so far and the hotspots seems to be persisting :( , I'll try again when I'm free and starting over including a new mesh, is it okay that the eliquids is in the tank?

Watched 3 youtube videos on rsst, they make it look so easy :glare:
 

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for anyone that might be curious. I dropped my RSST cap a few weeks ago and couldnt stand looking at the scratches anymore. I got rid of them EASILY with just 400 / 800 / 1000 grit sandpaper and just water. The finish ended up being even better than it was brand new. The scratches were quite deep too.

Thanks for the info. Dropped my mod on crushed concrete, fortunately just a couple of small scratches on the top cap and none on the mod.
 

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You're quite welcome! I get a LOT of help in these forums so it always feels good to be able to help out someone else.

I'm sure someone with more knowledge can answer your other questions. You're on the right track though. See, I'm not too clear on exactly what causes hot spots either. I'm under the impression that it's where there is uneven tension in the coil. That can result from not having an even wrap, or places where the wick isn't in full contact with the coil.

I'm such a klutz that I've found it easier to wrap my coils totally removed from the atty. Once you get an idea of how long to make the wick, and then an idea of how far the capture points are, I find it's easier getting even spacing and better wick-to-coil contact. But most people don't recommend this. I also do it because I always use hollow ekowool over SS mesh or cable, and that stuff can shift around while you're doing your wrap. Having it out of the device makes holding it still much easier, to me anyway.

Good luck, and keep at it! Expect a few failures at first. Patience is key in this. Let yourself screw up a few times, that's the best way to learn what to NOT do. ;)


hey zipflint!

Thank you for your reply! :toast:

I tried recoiling without removing the mesh and I can still see dark glowing orange which means hotspots right?

Could it also be the mesh that is causing the hotspot? I'm not quite sure what causes hotspots, loose coil that doesn't contact the mesh fully?
 

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For wrapping mesh, at least, I found that the easiest way for me to do it was to pull the center pin completly out, which gives me 360 access to the mesh wick..... once I get it almost all the way wrapped, I pop the pin back on and finish the job. I get nice, evenly spaced and tight coils that way. It's tricky to do if there is juice in the tank... but not impossible.

It might be a good method for ceramic wicks too... those things are pretty fragile, so having good access all the way around might be helpful.
 

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Heya folks. Im running an iClear30 on my Chiclone for a week now. Its ok I guess. Im tired of the gurgles and so so flavors. I also been researching carto tanks, and those seem like alot of work. All day today Ive been watching vids and reading reviews of various rba's. The RSST sounds like it would be a good way for me to jump into rebuildables.

My local shop has wire and mesh, and I have a bag of "hand picked" cotton. I also have a cheapo analog meter that Ive had for awhile. Is there anything else I should pick up? I dont have a kick or anything for my mech. The batteries Im using are the red IMR 2000mah, which I believe are 10amp?

I may grab one of these on Friday after work.

Any reason not to go this route?


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For wrapping mesh, at least, I found that the easiest way for me to do it was to pull the center pin completly out, which gives me 360 access to the mesh wick..... once I get it almost all the way wrapped, I pop the pin back on and finish the job. I get nice, evenly spaced and tight coils that way. It's tricky to do if there is juice in the tank... but not impossible.
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Thanks for that tip!! i do not know why i did not think of that myself.. and kudos to you for sharing it!
 
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