SmokTech The Natural - New mechanical device

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Great thanks! Does the plastic disk adjust or remove? Also could you explain the sanding/modding the 510 pin? Hate to bother you. I dont seem to have any of these issues with my China GG or my Legacy.

Sanding is really not bad but it depends how patience u r lol... u can start with 400 grit then 800 to finish it... the plastic disk is there to hold ur negative post but im pretty sure it is removable if in the future u wish to mount ur post permanently at the bottom cap... but I havent tried to remove the disc yet but I am planning to put a permanent negative brass post :) hope that helps!

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Great thanks! Does the plastic disk adjust or remove? Also could you explain the sanding/modding the 510 pin? Hate to bother you. I dont seem to have any of these issues with my China GG or my Legacy.

Sanding is really not bad but it depends how patience u r lol... u can start with 400 grit then 800 to finish it... the plastic disk is there to hold ur negative post but im pretty sure it is removable if in the future u wish to mount ur post permanently at the bottom cap... but I havent tried to remove the disc yet but I am planning to put a permanent negative brass post :) hope that helps!

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I used two multimeter probes like chopsticks, in the holes of the disc from the underside and twisted it out through the top.
 

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Sounds like you might have a short in the natural. How? Dunno. I've been chain vaping on mine (switch batteries when they drop to 3.8-3.9v) and the button hasn't ever gotten warm (no modifications). I don't know if battery terminal has to do with anything, but I've always made sure to drop them in positive side up. I'm using two EH IMR 2000mah 18650s on 1.8-2.0ohm coils (viva nova, CE4 V2, and mini vivi nova).

Take it apart and clean it, maybe some juice or other particulate is casing a short?
not sure what caused the heat up initially, but after taking apart and reassembling, everything works fine. i took the 18650 that caused the initial problem out of the rotation for good, but ran the 18350 down to the point where it wouldn't fire on the natural, and it took just around the same time to charge as another one that was similarly drained.

i'm assuming when i put the 18650 extension on, it was caused a constant battery connection and that's where the extreme heat came from.
 

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It's not a good idea to let your batteries get that low, they don't like that. It's best to keep them at a fairly high charge, say, above 3.5 volts. I believe the minimum your supposed to drain them to is about 3.2.

not sure what caused the heat up initially, but after taking apart and reassembling, everything works fine. i took the 18650 that caused the initial problem out of the rotation for good, but ran the 18350 down to the point where it wouldn't fire on the natural, and it took just around the same time to charge as another one that was similarly drained.

i'm assuming when i put the 18650 extension on, it was caused a constant battery connection and that's where the extreme heat came from.
 

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It's not a good idea to let your batteries get that low, they don't like that. It's best to keep them at a fairly high charge, say, above 3.5 volts. I believe the minimum your supposed to drain them to is about 3.2.

It's not a good idea to charge lithium batteries on your wall, either. :unsure:
 

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It's not a good idea to charge lithium batteries on your wall, either. :unsure:

The difference is that charging batteries without a "safe" spot has a 1 in 100,000 chance of causing a problem, and over-draining your batteries has a nearly 1 in 1 chance of causing a problem, albeit more minor.
 

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The difference is that charging batteries without a "safe" spot has a 1 in 100,000 chance of causing a problem, and over-draining your batteries has a nearly 1 in 1 chance of causing a problem, albeit more minor.

Very true, I just found your posts ironic. I take losing my family to fire a lot more seriously than spending too much on batteries. Not that I overdrain my batteries, usually swap them above 3.6v.
 

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You're at 6 - 7.5w with those cartos and a normal 3.7v battery. Get a lower ohm carto or a Kick to bump up what you have now.

A 1.5 or 1.6 ohm carto would be around 9w for the bulk of the batteries life.

Thanks meatsneakers, I'll go with a lower ohm set up.
 

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Just sanded down the 510 connector so I can mount my attys flush. Looks much better. Only do this if you're using genesis or other types of attys without air draw from the bottom. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1365978681.924584.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1365978713.788405.jpg
 

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I need to sand the top of mine down as well so things sit flush... for now I just have to use a plastic washer (which don't look very cool). I don't have a belt sander or anything like that... not sure if i can do it with just a loan piece of sandpaper and a block of wood.

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I just used some sandpaper on a flat surface. It worked fine. I started with 240 grit and progressed through to 400.
 
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Sweet, looks like I'm gonna have to grab some sand paper on the way home then... how many steps do I need? Like 3 or so... I see you said 240, then finished with 400. Not sure how many steps in between (been a while since I sanded anything).

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I Started with 240, then 360 and 400. I also tried 500 after that but didn't really need it. You can't see the final result when the atty is on anyways so I wasn't too fussy about the finish. I have another Natural which I left as is to use attys with air feed through the 510 connector.
 

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