Your my brother and I love you man, but AW doesnt manufacture batteries. They rebrand them. What batteries are they rebranding? with the 18650's I think maybe panisonic, 18350, ????
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Your my brother and I love you man, but AW doesnt manufacture batteries. They rebrand them. What batteries are they rebranding? with the 18650's I think maybe panisonic, 18350, ????
Oh I can feel the love, thanks
I am aware that AW just put their label on the wrapper but I recall reading somewhere that this label only goes on
the higher quality cells that meet AW's minimum specs. Whereas other rebrands/no names use just about anything.
No idea who actually makes their 18350's and I used to believe a battery is a battery is a battery, look for the cheapest ones. Not anymore. All I know is the AW's I bought from Super T far outperform the blue no-names I originally bought
for the vmax, as per my previous posts and as further described by VAPNJ350 in his. Oh and they fit perfectly in my end cap.
In Germany at DB they made some exhaustive tests, and the efest where not any worse then the AW. Then the AW got slightly more then 700 Mah, the same as the efest, but this one stating 800 Mah. Both at 5 amp discharge rate. AW are good, but not the only ones.
The 'why AW's' question seems to have been beaten to death many times on ECF on various other threads. Here's some more perspective on them:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/262838-imr-batteries-aw-unbranded.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/262838-imr-batteries-aw-unbranded.html
Why not compare AW with panasonic, sony and thelikes. Compairing a good brand with noname batterys can have only one winner. If you would have done panasonic and "unbranded" the logical conclusion would have been buy panasonic and nothing else.
If 'I would have done?' I didn't make this particular comparison, just pointed to a relevant thread for further info. And as has been mentioned, Panasonic provides certain batteries to AW and to other companies that rebrand them. The point is that AW appear to be getting the cream of the crop Panasonics, etc, while other lesser brands are buying,rebranding and marketing cheaper cells. It's all explained in that thread I linked to. Ie, grade A Panasonics go to AW while grade B go to company XYZ at lower cost.
I really don't want to turn this into another battery debate...there are plenty of those at ECF. AW's are recommended for the vmax in this thread and specific reasons have been repeatedly given. They are in fact recommended for other devices in other threads. Anyone is free to either accept these recommendations or go with whatever other choice they please. Just vape on!
I'm waiting on some of these to get to me so I can get a discharge test on them and see just how they stack up to an AW. I've actually heard nothing bad so far about these. As for the guy who didn't want to pay 6.95 euros for an AW set. We pay $7.59 each for 18350's and that's a GREAT price, and $2.95 in shipping. (superT ofcourse). Spring for the AW's and watch your problems quickly deminish and fade away to the backdrop.
I think I do need to just make my signature : JUST BUY AW's FOR YOUR VMAX AND BE DONE WITH IT....SHEEESH PEOPLE!!!
I think it's PRETTY OBVIOUS at this point in the game that these "POWER HUNGRY" devices need the high discharge rate of a "TRUE" IMR high drain battery, not some chinese knock off B*#%S*!#%$ battery. If you can afford to pay the money to get the VMAX then you can spring the $11-$15 bucks to get decent batteries for it. And just so I repeat myself 1 more time and you all get to read it yet again. lol..lol.
YOUR DEVICE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE POWER SOURCE RUNNING IT !!
Take care everyone
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Keys.... Your exactly right, all AW batteries are a rebranded panasonic. Their is a myth/theory call it what you will that they do make a little love to them to make them as good as they are but the base cell used in a AW is Panasonic. I read in annother thread that the key to why the AW ICR's (protected) battery puts out the output that it does it due to the lead wire running the pcb protection circuit. Where most protected batteries run a hair-like filament wire to their PCB, AW runs a 18 awg wire that can actually transfer the raw energy from the cell to the outposts. I don't have my books right beside me but a certain gauge wire can only carry so much voltage thru it before it becomes pointless. Analogy: You cant shove a watermelon thru a garden hose. So obviously the AW that uses a 18awg copper wire to run the pcb will put out a much greater amperage than a trustfire/ultrafire/palight/soshine that uses a flat aluminum tape wire. I can't remember the ecf members screen name that did a whole thing on this AW comparison, but I think and wish every member should read it. He had it sooo right and knew his info on batteries. What AW may or may not do to the IMR high drains... I really have NO clue so Im not going to sit here and act like I do. Sorry.. I just really don't know for sure, I have my theories as a EE. But not enough basis to publicly announce it for it to get twisted and discredit me.
Take care all.
To vapnJ350 and Fuzzione
Maybee it sounded as I didn´t agree about the prooven quality of the AW´s. I believe they are top class, and recomand these to whoever asks me. What I want to say is that there are other real good ones, like panasonic. Sometimes it sounds that all are crab and the only way to go is AW, and here I disagree. Personally at the 18650 range I happen to have some AW 1600, AW 2000, the new panasonic hybrid (kind of IMR) and BDL. Here the panasonic is the best performer, second place for both AW, and BDL not crab, but way behind the others.
Also IMO panasonic will not be having any safety isues, this company has proven long time before AW ever started their know how to build a battery. Wished pany had some hybrids 18350.
Maybee it sounded as I didn´t agree about the prooven quality of the AW´s. I believe they are top class, and recomand these to whoever asks me. What I want to say is that there are other real good ones, like panasonic. Sometimes it sounds that all are crab and the only way to go is AW, and here I disagree. Personally at the 18650 range I happen to have some AW 1600, AW 2000, the new panasonic hybrid (kind of IMR) and BDL. Here the panasonic is the best performer, second place for both AW, and BDL not crab, but way behind the others.
Also IMO panasonic will not be having any safety isues, this company has proven long time before AW ever started their know how to build a battery. Wished pany had some hybrids 18350.
Save yourself some time, get the AW's. It really made a difference for me. I had the issues you listed plus a few more.
These TESTS prove the PANASONIC CGR18650CH IMR Hybrids are the BEST in the 18650 class HANDS DOWN:
Reference: mitro's pile of battery graphs | BudgetLightForum.com
Reference: mitro's pile of battery graphs | BudgetLightForum.com
Fsroq, your absolutely right about the Panasonic CGR, you need to read my earlier posts about that particular battery. But Panasonic does not make a 18350CGR so The main reason I say get the AW (for the VMAX is more to do with fit, a lot of VMAX users are finding that a lot of the 18350's out there do not fit, whether it be diameter or length. So my advice as I have many different brands of 18350's for testing purposes, I say go with AW in this particular application due to fit and function. Now in a 18650 mod, Provari, Lavatube, my go to battery is the CGR18650CH hybrid Panasonic hands down, my testing on those show significant amperage output and discharge rate, and yes over and higher than every AW I have(1600&200maH). Their are deffinately batteries out there that are comparible and some even better, but very few. And for our application (ecig/mods) I say usually go with AW, due to the others are a little harder to find for the average vaper with no technical background, but now that a few vendors are listening to people that have tested these Panasonic hybrids they are actually starting to carry them, other than Callie's Kustom's. My Provari runs the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250maH hybrid....and NOTHING ELSE. I bought 16 CGR's from Callie's Kustoms my 1st order as soon as I tested the sample they sent me to test prior to my order. They are a H#!! of a battery. One of the Highest sustained amperage outputs and discharge rates I've EVER seen in a battery that size. They are truly amazing batteries and company.
Take care.
Will anyone that has used the vmax with a rebuildable atty please report your impressions? I've just bought a DID that should soon be arriving.
More info here if interested:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/euro-suppliers/296166-new-genesis-type-atomizer-did.html
More info here if interested:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/euro-suppliers/296166-new-genesis-type-atomizer-did.html
Not a genesis, but it is a rebuildable. Working good so far!
2.6 ohm coil at 3.7v.
Sent via cellular communication device...
Not a genesis, but it is a rebuildable. Working good so far!
2.6 ohm coil at 3.7v.
Sent via cellular communication device...
Nice looking,
How makes that one? is that a glass tank? can you post a link? Thank you
Posting a link would probably get me slapped for violating forum rules (the mod maker is on another forum), but it is the RATank from Crack. It's not glass, it's polycarbonate. It's a really nice system though... still getting the hang of it (need more wick next time I think)...
Fazed I love ya brotha and all my ecf and VMAX brothers, but that is one ugly setup. Im sorry man, Im just a smooth lines kinda guy with no protruding edges ..but to each his own, Im not here to judge, I'll leave that to the man upstairs. But ya got to admit it's a bit gaudy and just a little bulky on top of the beautiful VMAX. I tell ya what, I've got a new toy on the way to me that's a Rebuildable atty, All surgical grade Stainless steel and fits flawlessly and smooth on the VMAX, just like the 3.5mL DCT but 1/2" taller. I'll post some pics when I get it, should be here by Friday. That Ratank needs to be on top of a Silver Bullet or a Bolt. And ofcourse as usual THIS IS STRICTLY MY OPINION. Everyone has their own taste in looks. Take care everyone and Im glad the R.A. is working good for you.
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