Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

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That does look a LOT better. Got mine today also ....I can sum mine up in 1 word.........SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not exactly happy with mine either. Thought I would try to get through the learning curve before I pass judgement though.

Aside from that, fit and finish are subpar, and most of my 510 tips won't fit it.


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Oh yeah, this is for EVERYONE !!! Anyone who uses, likes, and prefers cartos. Please do yourself a favor.....if you don't already have a 801 to 510 battery adapter.....GET ONE .....Then go get a 5 pack of ""BOGE 801 "FUSION" 2.8-3.0 ohm"" in standard(40mm) or XL (50mm) size. Im telling you these things truly are ""THE CARTO"" to have and use if your going to use cartos. If your not sure why it's called a "fusion" carto let me fill in the blanks for ya. What BOGE did was take a 510 diameter tube, same length as a normal 510) and press fitted it onto a 801 threading. And kept the 801 type internal setup. I've never been a fan of anything BUT 510. NOT ANY MORE !!!! I haven't bought a 510 anything since my 1st box of these. 1st thing you'll notice....FLAVOR....HOLY FLAVOR !!!!! Their was so much more flavor than a 510 I was honestly waiting for my tastebuds to jump off my tongue and smack me in the face for not getting these cartos before now. So that's what i"ve been missing...Ahhh. VAPOR, I feel like the vapor production is thicker and a little better, now keep in mind I am using a VMAX at 3.5 - 3.8 volts. It's real hard to get anything BUT huge amounts of vapor with this particular device, and you folks that have 1 know EXACTLY what I'm talking about...Right ??? ..... Right ! Throat hit, it's definitely there. I'm not a huge TH guy, the kinda TH I like is not due to Nicotine or way too high PG levels or %. It's more like.... holy mouthful of sooo much vapor theirs no way I don't feel that thick ball of white plumes hit the back of my throat with such thickness and density who cares about more PG or too high nic levels just to achieve it. Anyway, that ended up being much longer than I anticipated. Point and case... Do yourself a favor if you prefer carto's, go get a pack of BOGE 801 "FUSIONS" .... I highly doubt you will be anything other than impressed and satisfied is more ways than 1 . Take care everyone and have a great day !!!!! ...........J

Tip: I usually use these at 4.3-4.5V on a LT 3.2 & 4.0 Amp,...
On my VMAX's I take it down to 3.5-3.8V Max. ........Blisssssss !

i got my 801 2 days ago , 801 35mm, 3 ohm resistance.
i think it taste the same with boge 510xl, but in the tank 801 has better wicking :D i punch only 3 holes , 510 i must punch 5 holes to get same VTF, i usually set 801, 3ohm on a LT at 4,6-5,0V, on Vmax 4.0-4.4V.
So far boge is the best carto i'm using after DC, better taste n i think it cost more liquid than DC.

i got it from my local vendor around $5/pack... they had it on sale, i bought 5 of them lol...
 
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I'm not exactly happy with mine either. Thought I would try to get through the learning curve before I pass judgement though.

Aside from that, fit and finish are subpar, and most of my 510 tips won't fit it.


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I was going to wait before I said to much but now that I see that the internal ground wire is not even soldered to a, what looks to be a 3/16" washer from Lowes that wasn't preped in any way to be soldered to which is why it didn't even work when I got it and had so much solder on it trying to hold it, it probably took up .8mL of what area should be holding juice. I hate to be so critical of it but the solder job looked like a mound of Rottweiler crap. Please take into consideration I AM A EE THAT TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN MY SOLDER JOINTS. Much like a welder takes pride in his bead joints, which I do also. Theirs just no way solder is going to adhere to a shiny new washer without it being preped first. The silver electrodes are so short it's nearly impossible to wrap anything around them that will hold sturdy. I finally got a wrap to work. I had a perfe t wick, and perfect spaced coils (cause I'm .... like that and pay a great amount attention to detail) I did 5 wraps getting a 3.4 ohm load then set the Vmax to 5.2 volts. Everything was great for 2 minutes....thank god I didn't put too much juice in it, cause it all ended up on my beautiful Chrome VMAX. I have very few pep peeves,.....But a tank mod pouring juice all over my mod is now one I have now added to my list. And Fazed, my NONE of my drip tips fit(510) not even my oversized ones that never fit in any 510 stuff. Now my 801 drip tip almost does. It looks like mine is actually made and modded out of a old ego F1 650maH battery end and the Ce-2 style tank with the 2 slot windows and the screw on pen cap is the top atty cover with a whole punched in it with a ice pick or something that left a nice dimpled dent in it. I would maybe pay $20-$30 bucks for this, IF IT WORKED FLAWLESSLY ...but not $55. I very sorry for being so critical of this and maybe some people out there got a great one, but I just don't feel the craftsman ship on this is anything that would actually lasts long enough to get near a $55 dollar investment. The DID isn't much more in cost and is put together in a way that will last you forever, and is actually machined, not using parts from other ecigs to make it. If I find out Im wrong on any of this info I will definately re-post the correct info and have this post deleted completely, but after 2 yrs. of vaping now, and my long EE background among other technical backgrounds I think Im spot on. I'm probably the last, or 1 of the last, very few people that still, and know how, and have the skill, to build the Fistpak Multi-volt mod. Anyone who knows about this device knows this was the 1ST device that brought in Variable Voltage and changed vaping forever. This device is so small but has a primary circuit board, a booster chip, 4 resistors, 2 capacitors, a mosfet supply, 4 way selectable slider, the micro style 1 million accuations (fire button), 510 connection, and if that wasn't enough....a AW IMR 18650 battery. This is 1 of the most intense and intricate device builds to this day (EXcluding anything factory made). And the ONLY mod still to date that the voltage actually climbs .5V as you vape it. And I actually added my own small chipset that increases the 2000maH AW to 3 days of heavy vaping on the bottom 2 voltage settings. Their are 26 now 32 (with my added chipset) solders in this device, with a 6 hour build time if not rushed and done perfectly and correctly. This device sold for $200 bucks when Nuck (the original developer from Canada) made it. I thought it was overpriced before I opened it up. You couldn't fit a O-ring from a drip tip inside these things, it is jammed pack full of technology. I only say all this to kinda give you an idea of how high my bar is set. It's not that it takes a lot to impress me, it's more the way it's executed that will when me over everytime.

It seems like everytime I go to post something short and sweet it ends up being a bit longer than I planned or intended, for that I feel I should apologize to you guys. If this post seemed harsh or wrong in any way please keep in mind this is "1" persons ""OPINION"". Nothing more, NOTHING LESS. Thanks everybody, take care. ..................J
 

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If I've read this thread correctly, if mine defaults to 3.0 volts when I put batteries in and the display turns off when I tell it to, I've got the latest and greatest version of Vmax?



You are absolutely correct, you have the latest updated version. Would you mind going into a little bit how you like it...or don't, good and bad I think is welcome here. Maybe tell us what setup your using with it, whay voltage your running with it and why.

My new one like yours should be here by Saturday, I'll be putting it on my Lecroy 312-A 100mHz wavejet oscilloscope to see how it compares and was changed from the 1st unit.
 

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I was going to wait before I said to much but now that I see that the internal ground wire is not even soldered to a, what looks to be a 3/16" washer from Lowes...

I haven't taken mine apart yet. But based on the outside, I don't hold much hope for the internals.

I find it interesting that your drip tips don't fit because they are too small. Mine won't fit because the are too large. The only one that fits is a rubber one I can just get to cram in there.

Interesting.




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My new one like yours should be here by Saturday, I'll be putting it on my Lecroy 312-A 100mHz wavejet oscilloscope to see how it compares and was changed from the 1st unit.

After all the initial fuss about power, it will be interesting to see what the update actually delivers compared to the original release. I can't wait to see comparisons on the oscilloscope.
 

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You are absolutely correct, you have the latest updated version. Would you mind going into a little bit how you like it...or don't, good and bad I think is welcome here. Maybe tell us what setup your using with it, whay voltage your running with it and why.

My new one like yours should be here by Saturday, I'll be putting it on my Lecroy 312-A 100mHz wavejet oscilloscope to see how it compares and was changed from the 1st unit.

Haven't found anything yet I don't like about it really but I just got batteries for it yesterday. At the moment I'm running a single coil Boge standard carto in a mini tank from Mom and Pop. 2.9 ohms at 3.6 volts with a fruity juice. I like lower watts for sweet stuff. I've kicked it up some for tobacco with great results. It doesn't seem to take much voltage to produce more of everything than a fixed voltage device. I goofed pretty soon after starting it up and accidentally set the voltage to 6. The blown 1.7 resurector advised me I had made a mistake. I also use a Phoenix CE3 that really rocks. It's nice not to have to figure out what resistance carto to put on a device with a certain juice to achieve desirable results. I'm not much of a purist I guess. I just like something that works like it's supposed to out of the box and so far this one does very well. I got the AW 700 mah batteries. Thanks for the education earlier in this thread. They fit fine and I can't believe the charge life. I vaped like a lab monkey yesterday and still haven't had to charge. I think I need to lower my nic level though. Several times yesterday I noticed the familiar symptoms of getting too much but I'll probably stop so much chain vaping when I get the new off of it.
 
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Thanks for the Defcon comments, VAPNJ and Fazed. Such comments both positive and negative are encouraged here so we know what to buy/avoid in order to get the max out of our vmax. The leaking issues are more recently well discussed on the Defcon thread but I could not find a single comment there about the device lacking in build quality. Sounds to me like there will be lots of disappointed customers whether they admit it or not.

I'm also looking for a 2nd max in SS. If anyone sees this available for a decent price please post here.
 

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If I've read this thread correctly, if mine defaults to 3.0 volts when I put batteries in and the display turns off when I tell it to, I've got the latest and greatest version of Vmax?
You do have the REVISED version! IMHO, NOT the greatest! Smoktech should have left the VOLTAGE SPIKE alone and just twerk the voltage reset along with the display shut off and button switch! I mean be SERIOUS, people griped about using LR cartos and atty's on a HIGH VOLTAGE device! ONE would think with COMMON SENSE to use SR cartos and atty's or HIGHER with the VMAX due to its POWER it puts out period! They way I see it and will state it and this is SPEAKING in PV mod owners in general, is that if you want to vape a LR carto or atty get a 3.7V device period! The WHOLE vaping market wanted a device that CAN DO IT ALL and they got one in the VMAX! With the V1 you could have put a 5 to 6 ohm carto on it and still have the VAPE BLISS, NOT to say you won't get it with V2, BUT IMO and I quote: "WHY FIX SOMETHING IF IT ISN'T BROKE! The VMAX is the MOST POWERFUL VV TUBE MOD in COMPARISON to the PROVARI and the LAVATUBE HANDS DOWN! Do NOT get me wrong I got LOVE for Provape and their Provari(in fact I will be getting my PROVARI in another week), BUT the VMAX does put out more POWER and the DATA doesn't lie! That being said I LOVE BOTH DEVICES!
 
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You do have the REVISED version! IMHO, NOT the greatest! Smoktech should have left the VOLTAGE SPIKE alone and just twerk the voltage reset along with the display shut off and button switch! I mean be SERIOUS, people griped about using LR cartos and atty's on a HIGH VOLTAGE device! ONE would think with COMMON SENSE to use SR cartos and atty's or HIGHER with the VMAX due to its POWER it puts out period! They way I see it and will state it and this is SPEAKING in PV mod owners in general, is that if you want to vape a LR carto or atty get a 3.7V device period! The WHOLE vaping market wanted a device that CAN DO IT ALL and they got one in the VMAX! With the V1 you could have put a 5 to 6 ohm carto on it and still have the VAPE BLISS, NOT to say you won't get it with V2, BUT IMO and I quote: "WHY FIX SOMETHING IF IT ISN'T BROKE! The VMAX is the MOST POWERFUL VV TUBE MOD in COMPARISON to the PROVARI and the LAVATUBE HANDS DOWN! Do NOT get me wrong I got LOVE for Provape and their Provari(in fact I will be getting my PROVARI in another week), BUT the VMAX does put out more POWER and the DATA doesn't lie! That being said I LOVE BOTH DEVICES!

I kind of agree... My 1st gen VMAX drives my RATank with a 3.6Ω coil better than my Provari does. And While VAPNJ thinks its ugly, damn it vapes nice!
 

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I kind of agree... My 1st gen VMAX drives my RATank with a 3.6Ω coil better than my Provari does. And While VAPNJ thinks its ugly, damn it vapes nice!

I actually don't think it looks that bad. Kind of a mad scientist look about it. Like you're vaping from an old guitar amp EL tube. I've known lots of ugly women that performed well.:blush:
 

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I kind of agree... My 1st gen VMAX drives my RATank with a 3.6Ω coil better than my Provari does. And While VAPNJ thinks its ugly, damn it vapes nice!
HAHAHA...LOL! I called HIM about that and I told him that it really didn't look bad at all! I heard though about the DEFCON and I was going to get one, but after hearing the QUALITY issue about it, I decided NOT to! I am however looking at the ZENESIS or the DID! :D
 

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You do have the REVISED version! IMHO, NOT the greatest! Smoktech should have left the VOLTAGE SPIKE alone and just twerk the voltage reset along with the display shut off and button switch! I mean be SERIOUS, people griped about using LR cartos and atty's on a HIGH VOLTAGE device! ONE would think with COMMON SENSE to use SR cartos and atty's or HIGHER with the VMAX due to its POWER it puts out period! They way I see it and will state it and this is SPEAKING in PV mod owners in general, is that if you want to vape a LR carto or atty get a 3.7V device period! The WHOLE vaping market wanted a device that CAN DO IT ALL and they got one in the VMAX! With the V1 you could have put a 5 to 6 ohm carto on it and still have the VAPE BLISS, NOT to say you won't get it with V2, BUT IMO and I quote: "WHY FIX SOMETHING IF IT ISN'T BROKE! The VMAX is the MOST POWERFUL VV TUBE MOD in COMPARISON to the PROVARI and the LAVATUBE HANDS DOWN! Do NOT get me wrong I got LOVE for Provape and their Provari(in fact I will be getting my PROVARI in another week), BUT the VMAX does put out more POWER and the DATA doesn't lie! That being said I LOVE BOTH DEVICES!

Oh well. Told ya I wasn't a purist. Bye
 
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Oh well. Told ya I wasn't a purist. Bye
Hi Wuzz! :) I hope you don't feel I was BASHING you or putting YOU down about the VMAX V2?! I was just stating and speaking in GENERAL terms! If I have offended you in ANY way, I would like sincerely APOLOGIZE, because that was NOT my intensions! The VMAX V2 is still an OUTSTANDING device and YOU will ABSOLUTELY LOVE it! The ONE thing I LOVE about the V2 is that when you turn off the DISPLAY READINGS in MENU 6, the BLUE LED light comes on when FIRING! :D
 

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I have both vmax version, v1 and v2:D they both kick ... BUT the v2 seems to be a tad bit toned down. I'm using a 3ohm carto with a mom and pop mini sub, vaperite organic 100%vg kona cream. On vmax v1 I find the sweet spot to be at 3v lol but on the vmax v2 3.4v on the same setup and juice is the sweet spot. I do find that I use the vmax v2 more often than the v1 just because of the types of juice I vape.
 
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