Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

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Oh my, I didn't realize it would be at top of subs with Vmax search key word, can every ECF member post to Vmax group?

Not without being accepted as part of the group and it is designed for vmax owners really. I can see the vmax/provari debates getting outta hand if this was the case lol.
 

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Actually it is a public forum and it certainly does specialize in VMax and their owners. Additionally it includes all questions or comments about the VMax that this group, more than others, may be best suited to answer. So yes all ECF members can post here or in any other forum or sub-forum, that is what the website is for.

Oh my, I didn't realize it would be at top of subs with Vmax search key word, can every ECF member post to Vmax group?
 

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Remember we are obliged to not get into a direct comparison between the two but of coarse numbers don't lie. I would love to have one but chose two Vmax's instead......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
 

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173 pages later, this thread has managed to survive with a great degree of success. We do not want to put down any other PV, just support the VMax and VV in general with a helpful mentality. There is some great info in this thread and many have contributed an enormous amount of time and effort into giving detailed answers to almost all sensible questions.

I personally enjoy reading this thread and it is one of the few that I still am subscribed too.:thumbs:
 

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VAPNJ350 has posted his testing and claims the Efest battery is equal to or better than the IMR. It appears the CCV,Sysmax i4 Intellicharge Battery Charger, will charge just about anything used in vaping including the 14500. Personally I would buy everything you need from CCV. The prices are competitive and you get free shipping.

Edit: Depending on which batteries you buy CCV may include magnets, just mention it in the comment box at checkout. CCV also sells the magnets, might be a good idea to buy some just in case.

CCV,Sysmax i4 Intellicharge Battery Charger Compatible With:
Li-ion Battery:26650,22650,18650,18500,18350,17670,17500,17335,16340 (RCR123),14650,14500,10440, FLAT-TOP OR NIPPLE-TOP Batteries;
Ni-MH/Ni-CD Battery: AA, AAA, A, SC, C Batteries.


Errol

Ok been lurking kind of heavy and have decided. Think I will get the chrome the chrome vmax. Been trying to figure out whether to get the provari or something. Just was having a hard time justifying the promax. After going through this thread I have decided to get the vmax. You can go to square deal and get a 3 year warranty for like 15.00 bucks. Now here is my legitamite question. Guess I will buy from CCV also after looking over the thread. Would I be better off just not to buy the batteries from CCV so as not to get any knock off batteries and just get the IMR's through some other retailer? IF so who is a good battery retailer. Next question, If i get the button top batteries I guess I do not need the magnet, do I? Is it better to get the flat top and the magnet?
Next question, I also have a box mod that uses 14500 ultrafire, If I get this battery charger from CCV,Sysmax i4 Intellicharge Battery Charger, will it charge the 14500's, I guess it will charge the 18350's for sure, and maybe might last question.
I have seen some people talk about the Efest battery, Would I better to purchase these instead of the regular IMR's not really sure what the difference is.
Thanks to everyone for all the info you have put out there. It really helped me make my decision.
 
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You're talking about the 2.1 or whatever they call it right? (the one that's supposed to have 3.9-4 amp limit)

Yes, the NEW model that just arrived to the states (latest shipment). ...........and 440BB.....the Stardust's Ω that Im using range from 2.4-2.8Ω. And keep in mind ""so far"" I've only found them pleasing in FLAVOR AND VAPOR with 1 juice and 1 device (the V2 Chrome) No clue why. But that's .


@jFoster1...I use both flat top with magnet "spacer" and button top E'FEST with my VMAX's and they both fit and perform FLAWLESSLY. And the i4 Intellicharger.....folks this charger does EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING for the most part. I charge ALL my ecig/mod Batteries and ALL my household Rechargeable's Energizers, Duracells for my remotes, smoke detector's......EVERYTHING !!!! The charger is BAD A55 !!!! Love it !!!!
 
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I have 1 of the NEW V2 Chromes with the true eGo top connector. I haven't put it on the LeCroy 312 Scope yet but it's obviously using PWM. So far I really like it, it's a more "calm" and mellow type vape/device compared to my MAX's but that was expected for more than obvious reasons.

I have the V1 & 1.5, & 1.5t LT from "June but this V2 feels better in every way not to mention very heavy and solid.....the chrome dipping on this one looks like it was triple dipped the finish is so thick and deep in luster. The finish on mine is as good as the DiD R.A. and thats saying somethin'.

As far as power goes it feels much better than previous. I'm at 3.5v on the V2, with the same carto (Fusion) and same juice to get the equivalent feel and vape I have to go up to 4.2-4.3v on the 1.5/1.5t, and the L.Rider V1 (true LT) well lets not even go there....it's a joke. 6v doesn't even feel like 3.0v on the V2. I'm anxious to see what the LeCroy Scope shows me ...hopefully tonight.

VAPNJ,

I'll be very interested to see the results of your testing with a scope.

My experience was the same as yours concerning the new Young-June Chrome V2. Compared to the v1.5 I sent back to CCV for it, and the two v1.5t units I still own, the Chrome V2 seemed superior in every way---better build quality, much heavier (5.2 oz. with a battery, versus 3.3 oz. for the v1.5t), no rattling buttons, and the vape struck me as definitely superior in power, with a good deal more whomp. I assumed that the claimed 3.9 amp limit was accurate.

Then I did a little informal test. I set the voltage to the max of 6.0 volts (to get a 100% duty cycle on the PWM) and screwed on my Madvapes inline voltage display. Unloaded voltage read out as 6.1 volts, pretty much as expected. Then I screwed on a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto to the output connector of the meter. Voltage under load? Only 4.6 volts, which, if I'm not mistaken, means that the amp limit is 3.1 amps, same as for both the v1.5 and v1.5t.

Needless to say, I was surprised, since my subjective and anecdotal experience had been that my Chrome v2.0 vaped hotter and with more power than either the v1.5 or v1.5t.

Although I don't use dual coils anymore (I've snipped one coil on most of my remaining stash) and hardly ever vape at more than, say, 2.3 amps or so, I was also disappointed to see such a sizable drop in voltage, from 6.1 unloaded to 4.5 loaded at 1.5 ohms. I'm getting quite fed up with bogus claims about raised amp limits that prove to be untrue.

If, indeed, the amp limit of all versions of Young-June Vtubes is the same (roughly 3 amps), then why did we experience the Chrome v2.0 as being more powerful? Are we just crazy and imagining a difference, or did the programmers change the way the PWM is implemented somehow to make the v2.0 run hotter at lower voltages (not as much as the Vmax or Ovale V8, but certainly hotter than the v1.5/1.5t Vtubes)?

My single, crude test may not be sufficient to tell the whole story. I hope your more sophisticated equipment and expertise can shed additional light on this.
 

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Actually it is a public forum and it certainly does specialize in VMax and their owners. Additionally it includes all questions or comments about the VMax that this group, more than others, may be best suited to answer. So yes all ECF members can post here or in any other forum or sub-forum, that is what the website is for.

Oh my, I didn't realize it would be at top of subs with Vmax search key word, can every ECF member post to Vmax group?

If you re-read you will see that he asked about the "Vmax group"--which is members only and does require approval by the owner to join. This thread is not a part of the VMAX ELITE (the Vmax group) and is open to everyone, but the VMax group (VMAX ELITE) is a moderated group which is why there was speculation about its continued viability when Freddie (the creator and owner of the group) was moved on...
 

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VAPNJ,

I'll be very interested to see the results of your testing with a scope.

My experience was the same as yours concerning the new Young-June Chrome V2. Compared to the v1.5 I sent back to CCV for it, and the two v1.5t units I still own, the Chrome V2 seemed superior in every way---better build quality, much heavier (5.2 oz. with a battery, versus 3.3 oz. for the v1.5t), no rattling buttons, and the vape struck me as definitely superior in power, with a good deal more whomp. I assumed that the claimed 3.9 amp limit was accurate.

Then I did a little informal test. I set the voltage to the max of 6.0 volts (to get a 100% duty cycle on the PWM) and screwed on my Madvapes inline voltage display. Unloaded voltage read out as 6.1 volts, pretty much as expected. Then I screwed on a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto to the output connector of the meter. Voltage under load? Only 4.6 volts, which, if I'm not mistaken, means that the amp limit is 3.1 amps, same as for both the v1.5 and v1.5t.

Needless to say, I was surprised, since my subjective and anecdotal experience had been that my Chrome v2.0 vaped hotter and with more power than either the v1.5 or v1.5t.

Although I don't use dual coils anymore (I've snipped one coil on most of my remaining stash) and hardly ever vape at more than, say, 2.3 amps or so, I was also disappointed to see such a sizable drop in voltage, from 6.1 unloaded to 4.5 loaded at 1.5 ohms. I'm getting quite fed up with bogus claims about raised amp limits that prove to be untrue.

If, indeed, the amp limit of all versions of Young-June Vtubes is the same (roughly 3 amps), then why did we experience the Chrome v2.0 as being more powerful? Are we just crazy and imagining a difference, or did the programmers change the way the PWM is implemented somehow to make the v2.0 run hotter at lower voltages (not as much as the Vmax or Ovale V8, but certainly hotter than the v1.5/1.5t Vtubes)?

My single, crude test may not be sufficient to tell the whole story. I hope your more sophisticated equipment and expertise can shed additional light on this.


I can tell you although your "crude" test seems to be giving you data PWM is almost impossible to measure with solid accurate numbers through a inline type meter like the Madvapes box, I have 1 too. If you take the voltage down to 3.5v you'll see the PWM working as the 888,000 flash in the display....thats "kinda" shows how fast the pulses are and the voltage changes.....kinda. The inline just can't keep up with the PWM and decipher whats happening in the circuit.
 

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If you re-read you will see that he asked about the "Vmax group"--which is members only and does require approval by the owner to join. This thread is not a part of the VMAX ELITE (the Vmax group) and is open to everyone, but the VMax group (VMAX ELITE) is a moderated group which is why there was speculation about its continued viability when Freddie (the creator and owner of the group) was moved on...

I stand corrected. He did specifically ask about the V Max group, and that is a member only group ( I am one). The speculation about the future of the VMax Elite group had nothing to do with his question.
I figured he meant the thread though even though he said group, those terms are sometimes used interchangeably around here.
 
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I just got my Vmax. It came with flat top batteries. After fully charging I put them in and put on a Boge 3.0 ohm carto and set it to 3 volts. I get about 4 to 5 drags and it quit. Flashing 123456789. I remove batteries and put back in it flashes the numbers and I push the button and nothing. I repeat it all again and this time it flashes F1.

I removed the carto and checked with meter and it measured 3.1 ohms. I try another 3 ohm carto and I get three drags and it quits again. This time I remove the batts and tried another set of ICR flat tops I had. Now it seems to be working for the moment.

The batteries that came with the device did not include any magnet spacers. Could that be the problem?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 

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I just got my Vmax. It came with flat top batteries. After fully charging I put them in and put on a Boge 3.0 ohm carto and set it to 3 volts. I get about 4 to 5 drags and it quit. Flashing 123456789. I remove batteries and put back in it flashes the numbers and I push the button and nothing. I repeat it all again and this time it flashes F1.

I removed the carto and checked with meter and it measured 3.1 ohms. I try another 3 ohm carto and I get three drags and it quits again. This time I remove the batts and tried another set of ICR flat tops I had. Now it seems to be working for the moment.

The batteries that came with the device did not include any magnet spacers. Could that be the problem?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

.............Yes.
 

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It didn't help that I missed the reply with quote button as intended
If you re-read you will see that he asked about the "Vmax group"--which is members only and does require approval by the owner to join. This thread is not a part of the VMAX ELITE (the Vmax group) and is open to everyone, but the VMax group (VMAX ELITE) is a moderated group which is why there was speculation about its continued viability when Freddie (the creator and owner of the group) was moved on...
 

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I stand corrected. He did specifically ask about the V Max group, and that is a member only group ( I am one). The speculation about the future of the VMax Elite group had nothing to do with his question.

I merely mentioned the speculation about the continued viability if the group to help differentiate between the group and this thread :)

I figured he meant the thread though even though he said group, those terms are sometimes used interchangeably around here.

Random85 answered that the group was members only and kurtus confirmed that you had to be a member to post there. Your starting off your reply with "Actually it is a public forum" made it seem like you were correcting them, but then your answer was about this thread. I was simply trying to point out that they had answered the question as written while you answered the question in relation to where it was asked. Since the terms "group," "forum," "sub-forum" and "thread" are very often used interchangeably and since dwcraig1 did not specifically mention the name of the group or thread he was asking about it's hard to say exactly which question he was asking.

I was simply trying to clarify that both answers were correct but answered different questions. Sometimes I come off as less diplomatic than I am trying to be, so I apologize if I seemed disrespectful or offended in any way :)
 

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It didn't help that I missed the reply with quote button as intended

I think the biggest problem with discussions like this is that the terms "forum" and "thread" and "group" (and related terminology) are used differently on every board/site on the web and are often poorly-defined at each location. While some intense ECF archaeology can uncover the ECF-specific uses of each of those terms, even the mods and administrators seem to be inconsistent in their usage and it leads to confusion.

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Quite off topic but in my quest to find another juice flavor similar to Vapure's Dry Blend. I thouht I had found it until my Dekeng DK-Tab arrived. I have read were other folks recommend this for people having a hard time quiting the stinkies. After figuring out that "TAB" stands for Turkish America tobacco I thought oh Camels, Dry Blend. Well maybe non filter Camels, my god this stuff about chocked me up. When my nic base arrives I will cut the flavor in half or mix with some other flavor. I have some 555 flavoring coming. This stuff gives TH new dimensions. Of coarse I am vaping it with a Vmax
 

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All is cool in VMax land, whether it is in the members only "group" or in the public thread. I say let's get back to the VMax and leave the politics alone. Many things are said one way and meant another but all is in the spirit of helpfulness and cooperation. I believe this is the biggest and most important point of all points.

There are not many threads or topics that can make that claim, but we can.

Nice job by all contributors to this thread....Peace, over and out!
 
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