Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

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SnowDragon

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My bad....I had heard that Notcigs went with the PWM on the V2 Buzz, apparently not. The SVR or Evo would be more appropriate for the reply given. You don't need to wonder why....you know....message sent, message received.
:)

I do agree they all have pros, cons, and the debate for which is best all depends on individual needs. I want super-steath I go with a Keychain, hands-free analog-like I grab an auto KR, long lasting pocket friendly while out and about out comes the Ego with a tank or Mega Carto.

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I applaud your enthusiasm, but completely disagree. The one thing, a very important thing that the Vmax lacks is track record and support. The Twist is a game changer, a true VV with a proprietary battery for under $30.00. When...not if...your button goes bye bye on the VMax you will be looking at $100.00 to replace your unit.

I believe the button for ProVari is rated for googolplexian amount of uses.

There is nothing new or unique when it comes to the Vmax, it's just a good combination of qualities from APVs that are already on the market. Put an LED screen and a Ego button/connector on a Buzz and you have the Vmax. Too bad, Notcigs were the actual game changers but they just couldn't cross that bridge and provide a functions menu with a LED.

No doubt you have some evidence to substantiate this comment?
 

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hmm, "better vs. worse" is way too subjective. You'll always start a firestorm with type of question/comment. I'm looking at the VMax pretty specifically for my DIDs. The Provari circuitry is way too sensitive for the coil setup. Once setup, the Provari works great - just getting tired of fighting E1's till all the hotspots are worked out so thinking with a 5a switch I can just bully/burn my way through them.

P.S. Thx for the helpful info folks :toast:



I use my DID on my VMAX and have not yet popped a coil. I run a 5/5 coil @ 2.6Ω @ 4.3 VOLTS and it's definitely one of the most consistent vapes I've ever experienced along with flavor that is just out of this world. My Ω's never budge and the vapor production is something short of spectacular, almost on the edge of too much vapor.....almost but not...lol.
 

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I think VAPJN350 answered my concerns with his post here. Thanks

Ok so "VMAX protection and stacked Batteries",

I've got some very detailed tests,pdf files and some other resources on this particular when I 1st got the Chrome version around 5, maybe 6 months ago. Now according to the files I received, The Vmax might have went a step further with protection than some of the other manufacturers. Now please bare in mind, I have data from and on the VMAX...not the other mods that run a stacked setup. Am I saying the others don't have this technology inside...ABSOLUTELY NOT !! All im saying is the VMAX data says it does. I wish I had some detailed data on some of the other stacked units so I could compare side by side for sure.

Ok, so the VMAX does indeed have multiple levels of protection, and not just because it's a stacked setup but because it's become a industry standard in electronic type devices. That's a good thing. The VMAX has over-discharge, under-discharge, and here's the one that goes the extra mile to make sure your safe...it monitors both batteries individually constantly in real time to keep them discharging evenly. That is a very nice safety feature. It flashes a "Lo" warning when the batteries reach 3.2v each, 6.4v total between the 2. Now I've noticed (in testing ONLY) if you use knock off IMR batteries (which you should NEVER do,and shame on you if you are) it will kick the "Lo" warning on early around 7.1-7.4v just to make sure your not, and the device is not over-discharging the batteries. Thats a nice feature also. All in all I trust this device. I use this device, actually I put every other device I have away, this is what I use exclusively...that's is !!! Nothing else, and I will continue to till it stops working and I can't foresee that happening anytime in the near or distant future.

Now I did see a comment made by Matrix I think, if not then please disregard. Something about the smallest wires he ever saw in the top cap. Now I will admit they are a bit on the small side to be pushing 5 amps, but the "BOLT" wires are even smaller and I know a few people that stack to 3.0v batteries in those and use them all day at 6V with a 1.5 ohm DC with no issue. So if those small wires can handle that on a pure mechanical type setup, Im not going to doubt the VMAX can handle a 5 amp current in those wires with the aid of a pretty impressive chipset. And maybe the fact I've tested this device on a lot more than a handy dandy handheld portable Oscilloscope. But your absolutely right, the wires are a bit small. lol. This device has impressed me from the 1st day I got it months ago. And still impresses me to this day. And believe me I was one of the ones ready to tear it to pieces inside and out. But the truth is when I got to putting it thru the tests I was simply amazed. Then I was doubtful so I put it on my LeCroy 312-A Wavejet 100 mHz Osciloscope to double check the data. Needless to say...the raw numbers were accurate. I tried every combination and test I could throw at it and it just didn't fail. Not even a hickup.

To be China made, Smoktech did their R&D on this one. And it obviously paid off. Anymore questions ?...... And oh yeah about questions on this thread..... Im going to type a statement that every single person reading should've been taught in grade school and I'm going to leave it at that : " THE ONLY STUPID QUESTION IS THE ONE THAT IS NOT ASKED " This is a forum for Q & A . And more than that the name of this thread is "tip, tricks and quirks" all 3 of those words invite and derive mainly off questions. Please people for future reference ASK QUESTIONS, especially if your new to vaping or just new to the VMAX...but ASK QUESTIONS. Their are plenty of places to ask questions and get bad answers not to mention bad information all together on the ecf. In this thread I feel we are striving to get GOOD, ACCURATE, and TRUE INFORMATION out to our VMAX family. Please NEVER discourage anyone from asking any question.... ever. Thank you for your cooperation @ VAPN J enterprises and for your continued support. Tonk you and do com again':p lol...lol .... Take care everyone J

Oh and ! more quick response, it's not that the SS VMAX will be less powerful, or less anything with it being SS over copper/brass. It's strictly that copper and brass do conduct better electricity thru the metal than SS would. The outer body of the VMAX and most all tube mods act as a ground, so "hypothetically" the copper/brass unit could have less resistance in the ground side than the SS Version. More than likely it won't matter one little bit and won't affect it or the peformance at all, it was just a tid bit I thru out there and maybe I shouldn't have. Does that make sense ? Did I explain that good enough ? Or was that my 1st epic fail. If you need more detail or anology/explanation just let me know, would be my pleasure. Alright folks.... thats enough for me for 1 day. .....J
 

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I've inadvertently discovered a way to dramatically increase the battery vaping time of the vmax.


By buying a 2nd one. Who knew?! :laugh:



Fuzzi..... You are a TRIP !!!!

I could almost see your facial expression and body language as I read this post.....too ... Funny!!!!
Take care brotha....glad to hear your thoroughly enjoying your new SS MAX.
 

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Fuzzi..... You are a TRIP !!!!

I could almost see your facial expression and body language as I read this post.....too ... Funny!!!!
Take care brotha....glad to hear your thoroughly enjoying your new SS MAX.

'Thoroughly' is an understatement. I've even performed the double-barrel vmax maneuvre (aka fuzzivape).
One set at 5v burning a DC, the other with the Fusion 801 at 3.9. In each mouth corner.
It's my triple coil solution :laugh:

Things got fuzzy alright :vapor:

If you have skinny enough drip tips you can probably fit one in the middle although I'd have to hold it with
my toes or rig my harmonica holder. I'm working on it.
 

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I applaud your enthusiasm, but completely disagree. The one thing, a very important thing that the Vmax lacks is track record and support. The Twist is a game changer, a true VV with a proprietary battery for under $30.00. When...not if...your button goes bye bye on the VMax you will be looking at $100.00 to replace your unit.

I believe the button for ProVari is rated for googolplexian amount of uses.

There is nothing new or unique when it comes to the Vmax, it's just a good combination of qualities from APVs that are already on the market. Put an LED screen and a Ego button/connector on a Buzz and you have the Vmax. Too bad, Notcigs were the actual game changers but they just couldn't cross that bridge and provide a functions menu with a LED.

My VMax has a 3 (three)....III....digit display,1 more than a provari


weeeeeeeeeeee

And my support,I bet its better than Provape dude,I just send it back to my dealer and he sends me a new one inside 48hrs...I bet provape cant do that.

Pfah.
 

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My bad....I had heard that Notcigs went with the PWM on the V2 Buzz, apparently not. The SVR or Evo would be more appropriate for the reply given. You don't need to wonder why....you know....message sent, message received.
:)

They may have. It is my understanding that they didn't, but I am often wrong. On the other hand, there are quite a few people who have compared the Buzz and VMax and found them vastly different, just as many people have compared the Provari and VMax and found the vape vastly different. I have neither, so I can only go by specs and other people's descriptions :)

And yes, from what I can tell, the SVR would be dead-on. It's obviously a different board, but from what I've read and seen the SVR and VMax may well be using the same regulator/modulating chip...

I do agree they all have pros, cons, and the debate for which is best all depends on individual needs. I want super-steath I go with a Keychain, hands-free analog-like I grab an auto KR, long lasting pocket friendly while out and about out comes the Ego with a tank or Mega Carto.

:2cool:

My stealth vape is an Orion in 18350 mode, or a small ePipemod. Yes, I know--not really very stealthy :lol:
 

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martinc I think that's great! Not only does it have 3 digits in the display but you get a Blue in-use light. No need for an extension cap for extra battery life since the two 18350s outlast the single 18650 2000 mAh batt. It also has a larger menu window and larger cross-hatched airflow inlets at the connector. The separate up and down menu functions means you don't have to cycle all the way through the voltage setting should you miss your sweet spot.

The only time I ever sent my ProVari back was a couple weeks after I bought it, the window popped out. Keep in mind this was right when the ProVari first came out before they changed the window and screwed it into the body. I sent it to them, they fixed it free of charge and they shipped it back to me via Priority, I believe it was 3-4 days. Outside of that I sent my Version 1 in for the upgrade and that took a week for turnaround but 6 of those days were just spent in-transit with USPS.

I know there are a lot of loyal fanboys and fangirls out there, I am not really one of them, if I was I surely would not have purchased a Vmax. I give every PV a chance to prove itself, some have been epic failures from the start, others have puked out after a few months, and others have been great. I spent the money so I sure hope this one is great.

I purchased my Vmax from CCV so I have a 1 month dealer/5 month manufacturer warranty. CCV is a good reseller, but I don't think it's too far of a stretch to question what happens when the unit is out of dealer/manufacturer warranty. The button is a concern and seems to be the only reported issue folks have had, it's the only non-solid state part, and Chinese Mods do tend to have a notable failure rate.

So far I am really enjoying my Vmax, it's giving me everything my ProVari can give me. It's lighter, the batteries last longer, and they charge quicker. I filled the connector with juice and let it sit overnight, dried it and it fired right up with no apparent leaking inside the housing tube. I am more than satisfied with the unit's safety features which I think are above and beyond any other mod with stacked batts.

I did have an issue when I first got it for reading function 5, atty output, resistance, and battery voltage. It seemed from the directions that there would be a 2 second pause and I was expecting some number to flash, but it didn't. I quickly figured out that you have to turn on the LED using function 6, then press the button for numbers to show up. Not really sure what the whole "idle for 2 seconds" is about.

I looked at the wiring, it's thin, but it's bigger than the wiring in the Bolt. So far I'm impressed but the question still remains how the unit will stand up over time. Given the recent release of the Version 2 there is just no way of knowing until a year has passed to see if any issues arise. I see the button as being the only possible weak link or cross threading the cap threads due to their limited height.

I'm certainly not going to knock ProVape, they sell a good product and my experience with them has been good. My experiences with Smoketech PVs has not been so good, especially the 5v Mod which was just poorly designed and dangerous. Yet I was impressed enough with the version 2 Vmax to give them another chance.

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I love fill'n up a bowl..:)...twisting it on my VMAX (v.1), and relaxing catching up on this thread. This is informative, and a great read. I've been around for awhile, and I don't post much but thanks to all that do! I've learned quite a bit from all the expertise, and love the witty banter.

I had joined Freddie's group and am sorry to hear he has "moved on" so to speak, and I just wanted to say thanks to those that keep this thread a great place to visit. Now if someone could just tell my wifey that a (v.2) is a must have...it would be most appreciated....:D
 
Did you guys ever see the white vmax with blue top and endcap, and Smok and Vmax spelled with blue letters? Think it's some kind of special edition. Some guy posted a pic of his on a forum a while back (said he won it in a contest. I have never seen it anywhere else, but it looked awesome)

I would really love to have one of those, it's in the colours of the football team I follow.

Let me know if ya ever find one.
 

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I love fill'n up a bowl..:)...twisting it on my VMAX (v.1), and relaxing catching up on this thread. This is informative, and a great read. I've been around for awhile, and I don't post much but thanks to all that do! I've learned quite a bit from all the expertise, and love the witty banter.

I had joined Freddie's group and am sorry to hear he has "moved on" so to speak, and I just wanted to say thanks to those that keep this thread a great place to visit. Now if someone could just tell my wifey that a (v.2) is a must have...it would be most appreciated....:D

I find that jewellery purchases work well with my wife :)
 

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I'd normally suggest CCV as that's where I got mine and it's perfect right out of the box. Great CS too. I note they're oos on the SS however. I see timeast has them in stock for $90 less 5% coupon + reasonable shipping. Never dealt with them however; I believe kurtus has so he might want to chime in as to his experience with this company.

Yes fuzzi I will vouch for timeeast anytime. They shipped quickly and it arrived in customs within a 10 days however I thought Canada post had lost it because they realeased it from customs into canada post hands and it should have arrived the following day to me but it did not. I got in touch with their customer service because Canada post claimed that I could not start a claim being the receiver and the sender had to generate it. So I sent a email and got a reply from Angela almost immidiatly(keep in mind it was 2am her time when she replied) and it assured me that they would have their shipping department take care of it and not to worry at all. Long story short the vmax arrived 3 days later strangely enough and I couldn't be any happier with the response time of timeeast. It was 98 shipped to my house in Canada with the discount which is posted on the top of their site. If I had to buy another it would be from them, only down side was that it doesn't come with batts and I think they only had generic 18350 nipple tops so I passed on them but melissa hooked me up with a great source for efest batts and we have a great source already for the aw batts too so keep this in mind.


Edit: just checked the site and timeeast is now offering 2x free 18350 batts(generic blue wrappers) and a charger for all preorders right now, confusing part is they mention that they are arriving in stk july/22 but they show 80 units in stk. use ecigtalk for a 5% discount.
 
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