Smoktech ZMax Owners - Pics., Tips, Tricks and Quirks

[Optimo]

If you use the ZMax with one 18650 you will pretty much get what you see on the display. When you put 2 18350s in there it's a different story. That being said my ZMax will never see a 18650 in it ever again. Stacked 18350's F T W.

 

[retird]

So is there a difference in total vape time between 18650 and stacked 18350's?

If you use the ZMax with one 18650 you will pretty much get what you see on the display. When you put 2 18350s in there it's a different story. That being said my ZMax will never see a 18650 in it ever again. Stacked 18350's F T W.

 

[VapingTurtle]

If you use the ZMax with one 18650 you will pretty much get what you see on the display. ...

Awww... c'mon... make it fact-based. That is not even close to true.

 

[Optimo]

So is there a difference in total vape time between 18650 and stacked 18350's?

I can't really say as I only used it for a few hours with the 18650. With stacked 18350s I get about a day to a day and a half of heavy vaping.

 

[dwcraig1]

If you use the ZMax with one 18650 you will pretty much get what you see on the display. When you put 2 18350s in there it's a different story. That being said my ZMax will never see a 18650 in it ever again. Stacked 18350's F T W.

I haven't used a 18650 either since using stacked 18350's , if it were to be too hot @ 3 volts then I suppose I could put in the 18650 but I can't imagine what atomizer that I have that would require that,IMO

 

[kiwivap]

What I've been wondering, and one of the reasons I return to this thread, is what's with the update on the shorted mod? That one incident has been getting repeated in different sub-forums with half the facts and a lot of speculation.
His Zmax shorted within a few minutes of him first using it. At the time it seemed like user error - but it may not have been. A few days later, if I remember right, he posts that he left it on his desk and went to a meeting. When he came back it had melted the bottom of whatever he had on it. No pics taken afterward. Again, may or may not be user error.
So he sent it back to MV. And we haven't heard since. And it seems to me this one incident has been used as a criticism of the mod without a clear update on what actually caused it. If the mod is faulty that is very concerning. But if it was user error then that's different.

Another thing I've been thinking about is the review over on GVs alpha forum which basically ends up with saying GV shouldn't stock this mod because it doesn't use Vrms. How many vv mods currently do? So the review has all these graphs which of course just prove the point that we all know anyway - it is a a bit off on the settings. For many people, me included, it doesn't matter. It's about setting it where we like it.

Thoughts I've had reading the posts just now are - it's a non-issue that you don't use the same watts on every accessory. To me this seems a nit picky sort of thing. I mean I don't think anyone is claiming that its one watt suits all anyway.

For retird - I don't know how much of the thread you've followed - it is pretty long. But no-one has been claiming exactitude. If you can make a better mod then more power to you.

 

[retird]

Yep, it sounds like the Z is pretty efficient....I get 1.5 to 2 days on 2 18350's (in parallel) in my self-made DNA mod...

On another note...I understand Smok has been told of the 'quirks" in the Z.....and I think a V2 will address them....seems that is SOP with Smok

I can't really say as I only used it for a few hours with the 18650. With stacked 18350s I get about a day to a day and a half of heavy vaping.

 

[Optimo]

Yep, it sounds like the Z is pretty efficient....I get 1.5 to 2 days on 2 18350's (in parallel) in my self-made DNA mod...

On another note...I understand Smok has been told of the 'quirks" in the Z.....and I think a V2 will address them....seems that is SOP with Smok

Let's get you a cookie.

 

[kiwivap]

If you use the ZMax with one 18650 you will pretty much get what you see on the display. When you put 2 18350s in there it's a different story. That being said my ZMax will never see a 18650 in it ever again. Stacked 18350's F T W.

I think I see where you're coming from. I remember Dirkbongo posted some figures for that - with the 18650 the wattage was consistent but out. Not consistent with the 18350s.

 

[dnakr]

The concept has been around since the 60s. The first Electronic Cigarette was patented in 1965 by Herbert Gilbert of Pennsylvania.
Since then there's been dozens of other implementations patented.

Trying to figure out which patents cover the devices we're using now will probably make some lawyers very rich in the future.

Okay, I stand corrected. The first Electronic Cigarette was invented in 1963 and patented in 1965 by Herbert Gilbert of Pennsylvania, however, it was never commercialized. Hon Lik, invented his e-cig in 2004, and received the first international patent in 2007, which is the beginning of where we are now.

While Herbert Gilbert’s and Hon Lik’s devices share the same name, look similar on the outside and both use a battery, they actually function very differently and produce different results. Gilbert’s device is designed to heat air, which is then sucked through a flavored filter and produces no visible vapor. Lik’s design heats a liquid until it becomes a visible, inhaled vapor – which is how all of our e-cigarettes function today. Therefore, Lik is considered by most to be the inventor of the modern e-cigarette.

 

[badinfluence357]

Not all american made products were top notch. we made some garbage products also. We then try to charge high prices for items just because they were made in the USA... Cosumers realized it, got tierd of spending more for less or same quality products. Being able to buy products of the same quality or better for less money was a safer practice..

Examples: a person would by an american made tv, the tv would breakdown and you would have to spend a fortune to get it repaired just to have it breakdown again!!.. Now you buy a great Chinese made tv, if it breaks down you dont have to spend money repairing it, you just toss it and buy a new one for almost the same price it would cost to rapair. Lets not forget Ford cars compaird to Nissan and Toyota!!...my point is not all chinese made products are of poor quality and not all american made products are of good quality, it all depends on the product itself not the maker.....

Now I would like to bring this back to the topic of the thread...the "zmax" not the maker! I think its an awesome pv with new technology that gives the user an option of selection to improve their vaping experience on one device... All electronic products with new technology have kinks that need to be adjusted according to consumer feedback as they enter the market even Iphone!
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Enjoy your vape its only going to get better as new products are created from China and the USA. We are so lucky to have products from both!! Love peace and vapeness....vape on amigos!!

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[Scott_Simpson]

Say what you will about the Chinese (or, in previous timeframes, the Japanese and the East Europeans), they aren't stupid. They make what we buy. If we continue to buy, they continue to make. If we stop buying one thing and start buying another, guess what? So, if you aren't happy with product quality—wherever it is made—vote with your wallet. Spend your money elsewhere, and let the junk makers know that you are, and why.

Is the Zmax flawed? Yes. Is it far ahead of its early Vmax beginnings? Yes. Is it still a very useful device, even with its shortcomings? Yes. Will it get better? Yes.

What will blow the Zmax away? ProVape coming out with a VW ProVari.

 

[retird]

On the shorted mod thing....the poster said he would post if MV should tell him what the issue was...so, I guess we just don't know at this point...

FYI I have read the entire thread and my first post was in the 300's, yours is in the 1,000's.....that's a non-issue.....

PWM technology is a different animal as compared to other VV and VW mods....I think GV made an informed decission to not carry the Z....they also said that they would revisit the Z should a revision occur...we can all agree on one thing (I think?) that the settings are off...as a "setting type of guy" the Z won't work for me...that simple....it works for others and that's great....In looking at the Z, my observations are that discussion of the "quirks" of the Z probably helped Smok understand that they need to make corrections on the Z, thus this lively discussion is a good think....at least that is my thinking...

What I've been wondering, and one of the reasons I return to this thread, is what's with the update on the shorted mod? That one incident has been getting repeated in different sub-forums with half the facts and a lot of speculation.
His Zmax shorted within a few minutes of him first using it. At the time it seemed like user error - but it may not have been. A few days later, if I remember right, he posts that he left it on his desk and went to a meeting. When he came back it had melted the bottom of whatever he had on it. No pics taken afterward. Again, may or may not be user error.
So he sent it back to MV. And we haven't heard since. And it seems to me this one incident has been used as a criticism of the mod without a clear update on what actually caused it. If the mod is faulty that is very concerning. But if it was user error then that's different.

Another thing I've been thinking about is the review over on GVs alpha forum which basically ends up with saying GV shouldn't stock this mod because it doesn't use Vrms. How many vv mods currently do? So the review has all these graphs which of course just prove the point that we all know anyway - it is a a bit off on the settings. For many people, me included, it doesn't matter. It's about setting it where we like it.

Thoughts I've had reading the posts just now are - it's a non-issue that you don't use the same watts on every accessory. To me this seems a nit picky sort of thing. I mean I don't think anyone is claiming that its one watt suits all anyway.

For retird - I don't know how much of the thread you've followed - it is pretty long. But no-one has been claiming exactitude. If you can make a better mod then more power to you.

 

[dwcraig1]

I think someone makes more money "shipping them" (them = China mod) here than manufacturing them. I have wondered for some time now what a resident of China could pick up one on the streets of China for.

 

[kiwivap]

FYI I have read the entire thread and my first post was in the 300's, yours is in the 1,000's.....that's a non-issue.....

I wasn't making a criticism - I quite genuinely didn't know if you'd read the whole thread. I don't really care who posted when, I simply wasn't assuming you'd read it all since I didn't know. Not a contest.

 

[dwcraig1]

GV you might say "missed the boat", wild voltage and all it just work great. You can turn it up, you can turn it down. I vape juice not numbers.And of coarse IMO

 

[retird]

I did not take your post as criticism.....we all are just posting our thoughts and experiences...we can agree, agree to disagree, or disagree, and that just peachy....

I wasn't making a criticism - I quite genuinely didn't know if you'd read the whole thread. I don't really care who posted when, I simply wasn't assuming you'd read it all since I didn't know. Not a contest.

 

[kiwivap]

GV you might say "missed the boat", wild voltage and all it just work great. You can turn it up, you can turn it down. I vape juice not numbers.And of coarse IMO

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[retird]

I too vape juice, but by the numbers.......Power regulation (VW) when it works correctly allows one to, as an example, say put on a 3.0 ohm atty/carto and set the wattage to the desired setting... then you could put a 2.0 ohm atty/carto on and never have to change the setting. And as the resistance of the atty/carto changes the device adjusts for the difference...

GV you might say "missed the boat", wild voltage and all it just work great. You can turn it up, you can turn it down. I vape juice not numbers.And of coarse IMO

 

[Troll from behind]

As far the batterylife goes, I get to vape around 4,5 - 5 ml with a 2250 Panasonic when set to 15 watts with a SR Boge.
Have some figures about watts, volts and so on if anyone is intrested,