Smoktech ZMax Owners - Pics., Tips, Tricks and Quirks

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Jackbox sorry I didnt give your name on that other thread didnt know if i should or not if I knew how to do a reg quote on another thread I would of .

No problem. Not bothered by it at all. You can do it by starting the quote on the original thread and then highlighting and copying the text in the editing window. Then go to the other thread and post the text (including the BBC code encircling the quote) and after the [/QUOTE] hit enter and add anything you wish to add to the post of your own.
 

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like the buzz, notcig, jackboxx when Mike came out with it, just a pot and buck circuit, I helped and been using it till these new PWM's came out.
I was at Dong Mong outside Bangkok douring the war, working on B52's went to the bases up North and NKP. You ever get up there?

Don Muang is pretty close and I have been out there often. They decommissioned the airport when the new airport opened but on October 1st it is reopening for discount airlines as the new airport is already over capacity. Immigration is now near the old airport in the Government Center in Laksi and all expats who don't have the elusive permanent residency book need to file an address report every 90 days, so I go out there often enough. I have flown into Udon Thani airport (the old airbase used in the Viet Nam war for most of the bombing raids over Lao and Viet Nam) and travelled throughout most of Thailand except the restive South which is still dangerous due to unrest and frequent bombings. You would not recognize the Don Muang area now. It has changed so much and been fully developed that from there to Bangkok is all city now. Even when I first came to Thailand in the late 80s the trip between Don Muang and Bangkok proper was like driving on a deserted highway with very little in between. Now there seems to be very little undeveloped land left and they keep pushing further and further outside expanding the Bangkok Metroplex. Come visit and see how it has changed. I'll buy you a beer or two.
 
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Heck, I really don't care about all the number and variances in unit to unit. I am a tech nerd from way back when PCs and MACs didn't exist yet and I had to code Fortran on bubble cards and send them away to the school district's mainframe to get a result with errors a week later and repeat until my code worked. What I care about is what result I get on my ZMax when I get it. I won't care what the power setting is and what I am actually getting. All I will care about is finding a setting I am happy with, and having a consistent experience with different resistance devices. If the ZMax can do that for me then I will be a very happy camper indeed. I think most users would agree with me. Who cares what the numbers are. We just want a reliable PV with a consistent and satisfying experience. I agree with what another member said in the Gotvapes Alpha Thread; the manufacturer's should just do away with voltage settings and wattage settings and just have a power meter that goes from one to ten in 1/10th increments. That would work for most people and we don't need these silly arguments over vms, rvms, wattage, etc.

Oh, sorta like a Buzz Pro, eh? ;-)

But even simpler... just turn the dial up or down!\

PS: BTW, the green, black and silver ones are marked at $99.99 right now.
 
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like the buzz, notcig, jackboxx when Mike came out with it, just a pot and buck circuit, I helped and been using it till these new PWM's came out.
I was at Dong Mong outside Bangkok douring the war, working on B52's went to the bases up North and NKP. You ever get up there?
I was at NKP very late in the game. We directed the B52s (3 plane groups, arc light) onto target w/ our ground based radar. By the time I arrived on scene they'd stopped bombing of the North. Had a bungalow just east and south of the center of town right on the bank of the Mekong.

Actually got to see the B52s (other than as a blip on the radar) on a trip someplace south of Bangkok our ops officer arranged... was that Don Muang? Think it was all a gimmick he cooked up to go to Sattahip beach.
 
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Heck, I really don't care about all the number and variances in unit to unit. I am a tech nerd from way back when PCs and MACs didn't exist yet and I had to code Fortran on bubble cards and send them away to the school district's mainframe to get a result with errors a week later and repeat until my code worked. What I care about is what result I get on my ZMax when I get it. I won't care what the power setting is and what I am actually getting. All I will care about is finding a setting I am happy with, and having a consistent experience with different resistance devices. If the ZMax can do that for me then I will be a very happy camper indeed. I think most users would agree with me. Who cares what the numbers are. We just want a reliable PV with a consistent and satisfying experience. I agree with what another member said in the Gotvapes Alpha Thread; the manufacturer's should just do away with voltage settings and wattage settings and just have a power meter that goes from one to ten in 1/10th increments. That would work for most people and we don't need these silly arguments over vms, rvms, wattage, etc.

I couldn't agree more. In fact i've written a couple of nearly identical posts earlier on. While enthusiast level critique will exist in any hobby, most average-kind-of-guy vapers, that I believe represents the vast majority of vaping customers, simply want a power setting they can enjoy with most (if not all) of their heads. It doesn't matter to most that a meter will not agree with what the lcd setting says. And acceptance of this quirk as less than a significant flaw doesn't make one a fanboy but suggests many may simply not really care. We've all been conditioned by marketing hype to think that a 'what you set is what you get' voltage setting is the be all and end all on our pv's as though this is some million dollar piece of equipment that cannot tolerate a .01% variance of specs. Or it's life and death. Gimme a break.

The power delivery variances on the maxes really don't matter in every-day vaping enjoyment, unless of course you're emphatic upon vaping between 3-3.6 volts in which case you're looking at the wrong device. Just set the thing where it feels right and ignore the numbers. They're really not THAT important unless you're getting like double the voltage you're setting (which you're not).

Certainly Smoketech dropped the ball on this issue thinking we'd all appreciate 'more is better' rather than giving us a more accurate device. But in the end it boils down to whether such accuracy is something you're going to really need, practically speaking. Sure if given the choice I'd rather a more accurate device but having just bought a zmax, should the next version be completely accurate in its voltage settings would I run out and buy another? Nope. It just won't make any difference to me whether my lcd reads 3 or 3.7to get the same vape. Just as long as it's blue :laugh: Such accuracy may be a 'nice to have' but is certainly not a 'must have' unless you're into 'my pv is more accurate than yours' bragging rights.

As jackbox has articulated, if the maxes had power settings based on a meter or alphabetical where A is less and K is more, there really wouldn't be much of an issue. However it would give the reviewers one less thing to harp about.
 

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I was at NKP very late in the game. We directed the B52s (3 plane groups, arc light) onto target w/ our ground based radar. By the time I arrived on scene they'd stopped bombing of the North. Had a bungalow just east and south of the center of town right on the banks of the Mekong.

Actually got to see the B52s (other than as a blip on the radar) on a trip someplace south of Bangkok our ops officer arranged... was that Dong Mong? Think it was all a gimmick he cooked up to go to Sattahip beach.

DAM man, NKP was HOT in 69-70, you OK. I went there once then managed to avoid it, "i do MUCH better B52/KC135 here sir, Jim just got here, he'll like it there calibrating flux valves on the compass rose"
 

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like the buzz, notcig, jackboxx when Mike came out with it, just a pot and buck circuit, I helped and been using it till these new PWM's came out.
I was at Dong Mong outside Bangkok douring the war, working on B52's went to the bases up North and NKP. You ever get up there?

You and skipdashu sound like you had some adventures!

I always liked the idea of the Buzz without a display, adjusting the voltage until you like your vape - nice and uncomplicated.
Although voltage display is a great thing, it's kind of taken us off the beaten path in an odd kind of way.

Accuracy is nice in anything but I'm starting to realize that voltage readings are immaterial if you enjoy what you're getting out of it.

I did miss lower voltages on the Vmax, with the Zmax at 2 watts all is good for the low voltage stuff.
 
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You and skipdashu sound like you had some adventures!

I always liked the idea of the Buzz without a display, adjusting the voltage until you like your vape - nice and uncomplicated.
Although voltage display is a great thing, it's kind of taken us off the beaten path in an odd kind of way.

Accuracy is a nice in anything but I'm starting to realize that voltage readings are immaterial if you enjoy what you're getting out of it.

I did miss lower voltages on the Vmax, with the Zmax at 2 watts all is good for the low voltage stuff.
get you a buzz, it uses a buck type VR and goes much lower, power wise, than all these PWM's do and the price is right, Mike's gone back to his fiber-optic bis, saw these new PWM's as the bell. i
 

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DAM man, NKP was HOT in 69-70, you OK. I went there once then managed to avoid it, "i do MUCH better B52/KC135 here sir, Jim just got here, he'll like it there calibrating flux valves on the compass rose"

I didn't go in until Feb '72 and so it had to be mid to late '73 when I was there. Was on a 6 month TDY that got cut short.
 

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Tomorrow zmax v1 will be recommended
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Let’s give the kid a break, he made some mistakes and has learned. I mean what are you trying to say Aron, this is a conspiracy to cover-up the failure of the ZMAX being lead by GV where he got his?
YOU DO A VIDEO if you think it shouldn’t be recommended!
 

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I didn't go in until Feb '72 and so it had to be mid to late '73 when I was there. Was on a 6 month TDY that got cut short.

how hot was it then? we got rounds in every night and 4 wires that i heard had been breached, never when i was there. i was TDY there too, AFSC 32550 Autopilot and nav systems. Where were you TDY out of? My home base was CCK Taiwan but seldom there for the 3 years i stayed there after 56 weeks at Chanute.
 

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Let’s give the kid a break, he made some mistakes and has learned. I mean what are you trying to say Aron, this is a conspiracy to cover-up the failure of the ZMAX being lead by GV where he got his?
YOU DO A VIDEO if you think it shouldn’t be recommended!

Well I got one coming my self .. And sry no vendors where mentioned from my said !! Only sometimes you need to make up your mind about something .... That's all I ask ... Is that to much!
 
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