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    I have a sad story. Heathers youngest daughter is 12 and has a friend that was getting bullyed in school. She tried to kill herself Thursday night and was without air for 24 minutes before her brother found her. The doctor's have kept her breathing with air tubes but don't expect her to recover.
     

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    Good morning Atty, Fran and snails :)

    Glad you slept in Atty, how are you feeling now?
    Fine, overall. Had some stuff with GF the last two weeks, but she's OK now. Lost more sleep. Still catching up on that, but virus is cleared. Thanks for asking. How are you and yours?
     

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    I have a sad story. Heathers youngest daughter is 12 and has a friend that was getting bullyed in school. She tried to kill herself Thursday night and was without air for 24 minutes before her brother found her. The doctor's have kept her breathing with air tubes but don't expect her to recover.
    That is so sad.
    Many kids are just so evil. IDK if we as a society should excuse it as "that's part of being a teen (ish)". I think the old-ways, of keeping kids in line, in school and at home, is more the way to go. "They" say that parents can be too strict or even abusive, and that's true too, but there has to be some happy medium somewhere...including what teachers are allowed to do.

    In my day it was "if you get in trouble at school, you get in trouble at home too." Parents backed teachers, at least until the late 70's, early 80's. And it felt like middle/high schools were more institutions of brutality than of learning. Maybe its always been that way. IDK. But my mom, who went to school in the 40's and 50's, didn't seem to remember it being as nasty and violent as it is these days. I mean, sure kids can be mean, and there's always cliques. But it's just downright nasty these days.

    I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Look at the example we adults set. All the polarization and evil and crap going on in politics, the internet, on the streets.

    I don't know what the solution really is other than some positive social engineering. But 'the darkness" will always rebel against that, against anything positive and socially oriented, in favor of radical individualism and "I can do anything I can get away with because [rationalization]", shunning social obligation in favor of the self. Satan stands alone and for the self. Always.


    I'm sorry about Heather's DD's friend, Fran. It breaks my heart to hear these stories. I hope you and Heather can spend some time with her DD and talk about this. I mean, a lot, over time. And she may want to consider any counseling and therapy services available. This is basically the "loss of a friend" and she's still embedded in the same social situation otherwise, with the bullies still at-large.

    Maybe law enforcement will investigate, at least what they can, by combing over online entries, texts, etc and maybe interviewing witnesses. Quite possibly some juvenile detention is in order for some of these bullies, or at least court ordered therapy and community service.
     

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    That is so sad.
    Many kids are just so evil. IDK if we as a society should excuse it as "that's part of being a teen (ish)". I think the old-ways, of keeping kids in line, in school and at home, is more the way to go. "They" say that parents can be too strict or even abusive, and that's true too, but there has to be some happy medium somewhere...including what teachers are allowed to do.

    In my day it was "if you get in trouble at school, you get in trouble at home too." Parents backed teachers, at least until the late 70's, early 80's. And it felt like middle/high schools were more institutions of brutality than of learning. Maybe its always been that way. IDK. But my mom, who went to school in the 40's and 50's, didn't seem to remember it being as nasty and violent as it is these days. I mean, sure kids can be mean, and there's always cliques. But it's just downright nasty these days.

    I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Look at the example we adults set. All the polarization and evil and crap going on in politics, the internet, on the streets.

    I don't know what the solution really is other than some positive social engineering. But 'the darkness" will always rebel against that, against anything positive and socially oriented, in favor of radical individualism and "I can do anything I can get away with because [rationalization]", shunning social obligation in favor of the self. Satan stands alone and for the self. Always.


    I'm sorry about Heather's DD's friend, Fran. It breaks my heart to hear these stories. I hope you and Heather can spend some time with her DD and talk about this. I mean, a lot, over time. And she may want to consider any counseling and therapy services available. This is basically the "loss of a friend" and she's still embedded in the same social situation otherwise, with the bullies still at-large.

    Maybe law enforcement will investigate, at least what they can, by combing over online entries, texts, etc and maybe interviewing witnesses. Quite possibly some juvenile detention is in order for some of these bullies, or at least court ordered therapy and community service.
    I would be nice if the schools or the law would take this kind of thing seriously and at least try to do something about it. I doubt that anyone will.
     

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