Snails - Response on Threads Part 8

[AG51]

Pizza here. Too hot to cook, but not nearly as hot as Dale has it right now. We have a decent breeze here, but still too tired to cook. That's my second and final excuse.....

Gracie, bummer about your leak. Especially when our liquids are so precious to us now!!

Tried to help my BFF clip her dog's nails. Now, this is a 15lb. dog with very muscular legs. The techs couldn't do it, so we studied a youtube video that uses treats and went with that. Got all prepared. Barb held her, I was the clipper. Followed the video EXACTLY and still that tiny little dog managed to beat us. She bit Barb twice (nips, really) and scared the hell out of me. We gave up and the pup was happy as can be. Dogs rule the world, I tell ya! Next trick is to sedate her with benedryl, which NEVER worked on Puggers, and see if she gets calm enough. If THAT doesn't work, they have a stronger sedative to try, and if THAT doesn't work, they'll have to knock that little bugger completely out. She also HATES shots and getting blood taken. Last time that happened, the techs took her in the back and she came out limping for 3 or 4 days. Barb is distraught about having to go through that again. Other than that, this little baby is a sweet as can be. LOVES people. Go figure. ANYWAY, that's ALSO why I am tired and we had pizza. So, I lied....this is my THIRD and truly FINAL excuse.....

Kat, I also clipped my dogs nails today. It's a long process to get the trust with doing nail clipping. Try starting by laying the dog on its side. Just lay there while you comfort it until it relaxes. This may be as far as you get for several sessions depending on the dog. Once the dog relaxes take their paws one at a time and just rub your fingers thru their toes. Then let the dog relax again. Then take the clippers and just rub the foot with the clippers. Don't try to clip any nails at this point yet. You're trying to de-sensitize the dogs fears on the feet. Gradually the dog will let you snip a nail. Do it swiftly. Then let the dog relax again. Positive reinforcement works wonders here. You may only get to trim one nail for the first time. Let it be and reward the dog for getting that far. The next time repeat, lay the dog on its side, relax it, rub the toes, clip a nail. As this process continues the dog will realize you're not going to hurt it. Eventually you'll be able to just lay it down and clip all the toenails one right after the other. TIME is what's required here for these lessons, NOT drugs. Don't give up & don't loose your cool with the dog. You'll get there.

BTW placing a fabric mesh muzzle on the dog for the first few times is not cruel if it bites. Every time you give up on doing this you are reinforcing this bad biting behavior. It knows now that if it throws a fit and acts like it wants to bite, you'll stop clipping. Let the dog whine, cry, and throw it's tantrums. Just keep going with the calming of the dog and gain the trust you need to care for its feet.

You're not just clipping their nails here, You're having a behavior training session

 

[AttyPops]

BTW placing a fabric mesh muzzle on the dog for the first few times is not cruel if it bites. Every time you give up on doing this you are reinforcing this bad biting behavior. It knows now that if it throws a fit and acts like it wants to bite, you'll stop clipping. Let the dog whine, cry, and throw it's tantrums. Just keep going with the calming of the dog and gain the trust you need to care for its feet.

This times 50 !!!!!!!

Also lots of praise, petting between nails, and treats when done.
The dog should NEVER be allowed to put teeth on people.

My Fido got to the point that he'd mouth...but knew better than to teeth/nip. It was just his way of warning that "you screwed up and hurt me so stop" if I clipped close to the nerve. But that was special bond. We "communicated" and I apologized and gave extra treats because I could tell from the reflex reaction that I got too close, he wasn't faking for treats or anything. That's bad me. The dog you're talking about...if she's nipping...muzzle her.

 

[Flowersoul]

Gracie, I have a couple of possibilities for you:
1) It is usually the wicking that lets juice lead through and into the center where it runs out the air holes.
2) can also be dirt on the threads or
3) bad/old seals

In order of probability. Since you're probably using the RBA deck with that rayon, I'd re-wick it first.
Major bummer.


Thanks, OBG.

OK.....my instincts are telling me also that it is the wicking. I probably need to use more rayon as it does swell, but was pretty careful not to plug the air holes, but maybe a smidgen??!

Also, Gracie,

Check that the RBA's "cylinder" didn't work lose when you re-wick. Make sure it pushes all the way down and re-tighten the screw. You do that while re-wicking anyway, but sometimes as you screw and unscrew the tank to fill it, it can "lift" a bit and leak through the bottom of it.

Alrighty, will check that cylinder also... didn't check it when I built it! Will have to do it a bit later though cause after-dinner activities have me busy right now.

Thank you Atty!!!!

 

[Flowersoul]

Kat, I also clipped my dogs nails today. It's a long process to get the trust with doing nail clipping. Try starting by laying the dog on its side. Just lay there while you comfort it until it relaxes. This may be as far as you get for several sessions depending on the dog. Once the dog relaxes take their paws one at a time and just rub your fingers thru their toes. Then let the dog relax again. Then take the clippers and just rub the foot with the clippers. Don't try to clip any nails at this point yet. You're trying to de-sensitize the dogs fears on the feet. Gradually the dog will let you snip a nail. Do it swiftly. Then let the dog relax again. Positive reinforcement works wonders here. You may only get to trim one nail for the first time. Let it be and reward the dog for getting that far. The next time repeat, lay the dog on its side, relax it, rub the toes, clip a nail. As this process continues the dog will realize you're not going to hurt it. Eventually you'll be able to just lay it down and clip all the toenails one right after the other. TIME is what's required here for these lessons, NOT drugs. Don't give up & don't loose your cool with the dog. You'll get there.

BTW placing a fabric mesh muzzle on the dog for the first few times is not cruel if it bites. Every time you give up on doing this you are reinforcing this bad biting behavior. It knows now that if it throws a fit and acts like it wants to bite, you'll stop clipping. Let the dog whine, cry, and throw it's tantrums. Just keep going with the calming of the dog and gain the trust you need to care for its feet.

You're not just clipping their nails here, You're having a behavior training session

Excellent, Aggie!

 

[AttyPops]

but was pretty careful not to plug the air holes, but maybe a smidgen??

The rayon/wick holes on the cylinder is where it leaks.
The air holes INSIDE the thing should be unobstructed. Basically, when done, the only way juice gets inside is by wicking-in with the rayon. The bottom of the cylinder should be tight, the fit of the "tube" in the tank should fit snug into the RDA deck top hole, and the wicking should plug up the side holes. So no way for juice to run into the center where the air flows through the base bottom up the tube to the drip tip.

And then there's treads and seals.

 

[AG51]

Excellent, Aggie!

I have had great success with clipping dogs nails. My dog Deeogie now loves his feet taken care of. This wasn't the case when he first came here however. You have to put in the time, give the love, respect their thoughts and feelings and fears to gain their trust. Once you have it you can do just about anything with them.

 

[AttyPops]

The other thing, Katmar.

My Fido was a big dog. Had nails like a bear. lol.

One thing I found is that the clippers the come from the store...there's lots of kinds. But they often aren't very sharp. Once I sharpened them with a file/dremel...they worked much better. Sometimes the crap-clippers they sell these days CRUSH the nail more than they cut. Causes pain. So make sure you have good clippers and they are sharp.

I tried several, but ended up with this:

But there's guillotine ones that work too AS LONG AS THEY ARE SHARP.

 

[AG51]

The other thing, Katmar.

My Fido was a big dog. Had nails like a bear. lol.

One thing I found is that the clippers the come from the store...there's lots of kinds. But they often aren't very sharp. Once I sharpened them with a file/dremel...they worked much better. Sometimes the crap-clippers they sell these days CRUSH the nail more than they cut. Causes pain. So make sure you have good clippers and they are sharp.

I tried several, but ended up with this:

But there's guillotine ones that work too AS LONG AS THEY ARE SHARP.

Yes that's true. I should have mentioned that, sorry. Only use clippers such as these shown here. Mine are black but the same kind. I don't like the guillotine style ones, I don't think they work as well as this kind. You don't want to struggle with poor clippers as this just causes tension and nervous dogs don't need the added stress of fidgeting around with it

 

[FranC]

I'm here,tib

 

[tiburonfirst]

Yes that's true. I should have mentioned that, sorry. Only use clippers such as these shown here. Mine are black but the same kind. I don't like the guillotine style ones, I don't think they work as well as this kind. You don't want to struggle with poor clippers as this just causes tension and nervous dogs don't need the added stress of fidgeting around with it

well - i still swear by my dremel it's a small one and not very noisy. but strong enough for rotties and parrot beaks

 

[tiburonfirst]

hiya, frannie!

 

[Flowersoul]

I'm half here!

 

[FranC]

Hiya,tib and half of Gracie

 

[daleron]

I'm around

Just made Bela some egg drop soup.

 

[Flowersoul]

LOL @fran!

 

[FranC]

Hiya,dale

 

[FranC]

Gracie,rayon shrinks when wet.

 

[daleron]

Hiya,dale

Hi Fran

Gracie,rayon shrinks when wet.

That's what I thought And cotton swells

 

[FranC]

Hi Fran


That's what I thought And cotton swells

Yup

 

[Flowersoul]

Gracie,rayon shrinks when wet.

Well, I got that bass ackwards! Thanks for the correction!
That's why I need more rayon than cotton, I knew that!!