Snails - Response on Threads

[AttyPops]

RIP TT's wife.

I'm beat too. Did watch a move with GF though.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. We'll see how it all shakes out with her later. Went over existing hardware "retraining". Showed her tanks too.

Night all.

 

[FranC]

Goodnight, Atty......

 

[FranC]

 

[FranC]

 

[AttyPops]

You were up early Fran!

Good morning snails!

 

[FranC]

Morning,Atty

 

[CES]

Heck of a story Flarg. not fun at all for anyone involved.

I don't know TT well, but my heart goes out to him.

Good luck to your GF Atty, i hope that she is able to switch over all the way.

Good morning Fran and Tibs and Atty

 

[SilverBear]

On CNN this morning:

"Cirque du Soleil 'Wheel of Death' performer injured in Vegas show"

The wheel is not named properly. How about "Wheel of Inconvenience"? I see a class-action lawsuit by the audience for false advertising.


Chilly AM, all. 24 degrees here.

 

[tiburonfirst]

morning, ces, catt atty and frannie!

 

[tiburonfirst]

ooops!

morning, bear!

 

[CES]

Good morning Bear.

(always the hype eh? )

 

[SilverBear]

(always the hype eh? )

We never get what we pay for anymore.

If I shelled out $200 for death, then by golly....

 

[CES]

I bet many got discounted passes....

 

[AttyPops]

CES, do you have time to check me on this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...banning-e-cigs-2-reasons-59.html#post11180034

Another one of those "I'm not an addict, I'm dependent" nic users keeps "correcting" people and I tried to define it. Should have stayed out of it....

 

[Stoneface]

Good morning Tibs, CES, Catt, Atty, Fran, Bear, and any Snails I might have missed

I like eVods and ProTanks...they're dead simple (meaning I was able to get my sister to try them ). Many do like the Davides, but I haven't tried them yet.

Condolences to TT...I don't know TT but it is tough to lose a loved one.

Have a good one all.

 

[CES]

I'll check. I've been reading that thread Atty, but haven't looked for the past few days....and have tried to stay out of it (since there are so many people who've a;ready said anything i'd have to say). It's all about how you define "addiction: and whether one can keep the moral associations out of it. "addiction" is meaningless if it doesn't interfere with functioning and harms no one.

 

[FranC]

Morning,Bear,Atty,Stone and CES

 

[AttyPops]

Thanks CES. I just don't know why (well, I don't understand the rationale from) people get bent out of shape when we say we're nic addicts.

 

[CES]

Atty...this is probably the best response to the addiction debate that I've seen

Does ANYONE have a valid definition of “addiction”? | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

 

[CES]

Thanks CES. I just don't know why (well, I don't understand the rationale from) people get bent out of shape when we say we're nic addicts.

Because there is a moral/judgemental connotation to the word- and the indirect expectation that if we're "addicts" then the only goal should be to move away from the addiction.


BTW, the bounce back that you referred to in your post can take a long time- if it happens ever. But, the best definitions of addiction usually include the development of tolerance. And unlike with smoking, i've seen no little or no evidence of increased tolerance with e-cigs (or all of us long term vapers would be moving up to 36 mg/ml instead of down)