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Actually, there is a way to pull that off. It's easier if you're shopping alone. People traveling with you will "bump" you out of the proper state of mind (at least that happens too easily for me).

You have to view every single event as being necessary...good or bad...and firmly convince yourself that it all happens for a reason...be it "cause and effect" or "fate" or whatever reason. Then, everything "just is". No concept of "how it should have gone" or "why can't we all just...", but rather..."everything is." Annoying people, happy people, crowds, laughs, cries, etc. Just "are".

However, YOU can choose to be happy during all of the "just is"....Assuming that they haven't caused pain or other issues, stolen your wallet, etc. So take normal precautions to not let the negative impact you. You have to give yourself ample time to accomplish your tasks too so you don't feel "hurried".

Zen Stone. Zen.
I do shop alone as much as possible and will today. Maybe I'm not emotionally mature enough to will myself into "happy" (I've failed at that Jedi mink trick before), so I don't know if that will happen. I'm pretty sure my Zen will reappear once I'm home again.

And off I go to the big busy store! Have a good one all. . . . .
 

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so, I've been on the receiving end of that sort of thing - once. I was in a car when this person cut us off and almost caused an accident. All sorts of furiousness was ensuing inside the car i was in. We looked and the person in the other car was grinning and waving in a sweet, demented, obviously clueless sort of way. we couldn't help but start laughing.

So, i may be advocating dementia rather than zen... ;)

What is "almost", CES?
 

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"Almost" doesn't exist, CES. (although the adrenaline rush/ and any bracing/reaction does).
Basically, it didn't happen (maybe due to your good driving...or whomever was driving).
But, the person could have been grinning because of the "good luck" or "glad nothing happened" thing.

So basically "Almost" is a fear reaction of what could have happened but didn't. It is unreal. Imaginary. False. A projection of fear in the mind....or....a realization of what was avoided if you hadn't taken action, but you did take action so it's still false. See?
 

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"Almost" doesn't exist, CES. (although the adrenaline rush/ and any bracing/reaction does).
Basically, it didn't happen (maybe due to your good driving...or whomever was driving).
But, the person could have been grinning because of the "good luck" or "glad nothing happened" thing.

So basically "Almost" is a fear reaction of what could have happened but didn't. It is unreal. Imaginary. False. A projection of fear in the mind....or....a realization of what was avoided if you hadn't taken action, but you did take action so it's still false. See?

nope. i completely disagree. While the adrenaline rush my have been unwarranted by the outcome- it may have served to help avoid the outcome, and the physiological response was real, not imaginary. now it's entirely possible and even likely that the driver in teh other car had no idea that she'd almost caused a wreck. and her response helped shift us fro anger to laughter...but emotional responses are based on physiological reactions. when we recognize that we have choices about how we act and what we do. But they're not "imaginary"
 

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nope. i completely disagree. While the adrenaline rush my have been unwarranted by the outcome- it may have served to help avoid the outcome, and the physiological response was real, not imaginary. now it's entirely possible and even likely that the driver in teh other car had no idea that she'd almost caused a wreck. and her response helped shift us fro anger to laughter...but emotional responses are based on physiological reactions. when we recognize that we have choices about how we act and what we do. But they're not "imaginary"

You need to re-read before you disagree. I said that the responses to the event were real. It's the OTHER part that isn't. See?

Basically, your responses happen all the time. Take for example every time you walk downstairs or upstairs. That may or may not be a cause of concern (it is for FIDO, for example due to whatever problems he's having) but you probably did it today without anxiety or even thinking about it much...it's well practiced.

You probably even got to the bottom/top of the steps and didn't even think..."Hey, I COULD have fallen" or "I ALMOST fell, but I didn't because I took the proper actions to external events." It's so common you didn't even think about it.

The driving case was less common. But all the responses were there and it all worked out. So there was no "almost"...only proper responses to events (caused by an inattentive other driver). With associated physiological responses (adrenaline). Your imaginary vision of a wrecked car(s) is false in this case...it doesn't exist. So there's no "almost"...because it didn't happen. There were only proper responses to real things....idiot drivers in particular.
 
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