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He said he's never cleaned an rda or any form of vaping gear. We tested this coil only on the MVP2. We tried a coil where the Kanthal was not pre-torched, and I claimed a metallic taste, and he thought that was the most insane conclusion in the world (pointing toward that he either has smoker's tongue or is just dumb), he even made fun of me when I said that if I can smell oil or something in my rda, I clean it! He was like "Well, you shouldn't be sniffing around at your RDA's!" That's stupid. I wasn't born yesterday. If something smells nasty, it's gonna taste nasty. I know that much. My other RDA took 6 q-tips to clean out, all being completely coated with black afterward. That's nasty. That doesn't taste good. I know what I'm talking about.

The fact that juice will simply boil on a coil without proper airflow is indeed the scientific factor that makes sense, but at 1.1ohms, even at 3.3V's, nothing should be boiling really. That's quite hot. A microcoil sure isn't going to "just boil" anything. They work on entirely different principal (more like an oven, baking something, instead of boiling it). That's why simply coils on replaceable heads don't work well for me and gunk up quick. The simple factor of having so few wraps, spaced apart, simply boils liquid, not vaporizing it. To someone who has smoker's tongue, this much flavor, that syrupy crap, might be exactly what penetrates their tongue. Not mine. I need VAPOR. Not boiled liquid.

Good way to know if your liquid is boiling or not, is how much vapor you get. If you get a lot of vapor, your juice isn't boiling. End of story. I'm sure this RDA would work a tad bit better if it didn't have two airholes, and if the airflow ring would work, as it does, as I know even one hole for this coil is too much at it's current diameter. I can just cover the hole with my finger and tell! It's not that hard. Lifting the coil MAY do something, but it probably won't. I can't even adjust this coil, it's way too tight in the frame, and he built it so large that it takes up every niche of room in the RDA. Even touching it would cause a short. Dude didn't know how to build, that ain't my fault.

I only said "He helped me build it." because I wanted to take some credit. Truth is, I barely even touched the thing. Dude built it. Set it up for me. It was the same experience, concerning flavor, that I got from his super-duper build (non-micro). That's what the dude prefers. He started vaping like 9 months ago. He smoked like two packs a day. I dunno what that does to the tongue, but I'm sure his tongue is more damaged than mine, simply because I was tasting pure metal on some of the Evods at the store, and he didn't when he tested them after I pointed it out, and either he was lying, or couldn't taste a pile of manure. I'm not trying to get smart with people, but saying this is all my fault just drives me over the edge. Impossible. I didn't even build the thing. I'm not an expert. I shoulda walked out happy, and I did not, just because dude wanted to hurry up and get home - they were closing, even though I got there two hours early, they had me wait forever just because they were doing interviews.

I once said that vapors on this forum attack anyone who doesn't act like their their own biggest idiot, and I certainly will refuse to act like that. I usually know exactly what I'm talking about, even if by some rare instance my terminology is incorrect. I don't enjoy people who argue with me because even if I'm wrong on terminology or a specific fact, my "grand finding" is always correct. And it always matches up perfectly with any experience any actually advanced, doing-this-for-years member knows all about.

Yes, the juice is rather boiling in this coil. It's because it's a simple coil. I could put a couple inches of Kanthal on my mod, in a big old loop (like an old-school TV antenna), dip the wire in a little pool of juice, and it'd probably give me just about the same flavor if I inhale the vapor. I can't do nothing about that because I requested this "8-coil modder guy" to help me build a micro-coil and he evaded my request to the point I had to go with the flow or else get kicked out of the store. I am not happy. Sure, microcoils are difficult. They require exact airflow and position to not taste harsh. Regular coils? You can pretty much do anything with em. I don't think the results would be any better or worse. They're going to vaporize whatever, in the capabilities they have.

I mean, the RDA tastes "ok". I've gotten this same taste when trying the juice in a Protank (but since the RDA and coil is clean, no bad tastes!). Just by principal, this is why it tastes the same - it's the same coil!
 
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Goodnews calling the people on this forum "dunces" is not a good way to get the help you keep asking for. I mean if we all really are dunces why do you keep coming back to us for help?

You have already driven off several extremely smart, knowledgeable people who tried hard to help you. Are you seriously trying to drive off the rest?
 

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I didn't do anything wrong because he practically built the coil, sold me the RDA, and said it worked to him! He also told me he's never cleaned an RDA. That's where my reasoning skills are higher - I can't understand English.

He was claiming amazing flavor from a 1.1ohm coil that doesn't even work right on an MVP2, said he's never cleaned a tank before, and thinks that normal wrapped coils are the shiznit, and sold me an RDA with a broken airflow controller. Yeah, knows nothing about vaping. Hate to tell ya.

And yeah, Dusty told me that I may be the guy who just likes NiChrome, and may be the guy who just likes microcoils, because to him, he had direct experiences that microcoils work in an entirely different way. Argue with that all you want to. He didn't say jack crap about airflow, because airflow doesn't effect the way flavor is vaporized from the coil, just the intensity of it. The flavor will be the same regardless.

If a coil isn't good at vaporizing a certain juice, it's not going to be good at it wether you cut off all the airflow, or make a precise air stream, or have gaping airflow. Lol if any old coil works fine, then what, wouldn't we wrap a coil just once to make it easier on us? For christ's sakes. No wonder this forum argues with me so much - they seem to have the knowledge level of that dunce in the shop.

If you guys want to step into my shoes, smoke like 8 cigarettes a day, build a normal wrap coil, don't torch it, don't clean your new RDA, build it to funky proportions, all that stuff, and use a complex juice that you know should be complex or else it doesn't taste good at all, and see if you get a good result from it. Bet you won't. No matter how much you drill and nill around.

You may taste some cheap strawberry juice like it's supposed to be. Best case scenario. I don't vape that mess. I vape complex, thick, high-quality juices that have a ton of various between coil makes and models. If I wanted to vape cheap juice, I'd do so. Actually, I have been doing so. Cheap juice on a cheap iClear 30. Works better than the RDA with a simple, ultimately faulty coil that can't do jack crap for a rather gourmet juice.

Yes, a thin, strawberry juice from China would probably work amazingly on this little dunce coil. Gourmet juices? No. Ya'll need to get some sense and stop trying to start an argument with me.

Innocent members replying immediately with sound and logical advice, who do not yet know their knowledge is wasted on you, have to read through these megalomaniacal and insulting responses.

I sincerely hope that Good News is part of some sort of Masters Thesis or Dissertation in the works regarding the psychology behind Internet Catfishing and Trolling.

Sick person, or Doctor in the making, either way:
 
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Lol if any old coil works fine, then what, wouldn't we wrap a coil just once to make it easier on us? For christ's sakes. No wonder this forum argues with me so much - they seem to have the knowledge level of that dunce in the shop.

If you guys want to step into my shoes, smoke like 8 cigarettes a day, build a normal wrap coil, don't torch it, don't clean your new RDA, build it to funky proportions, all that stuff, and use a complex juice that you know should be complex or else it doesn't taste good at all, and see if you get a good result from it. Bet you won't. No matter how much you drill and nill around.
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I take it you never heard of SS mesh. People have coils running on mesh for months with just the occasional dry burn. Or microcoils with cotton? People strip out used cotton, dry burn the coil and insert new cotton.

You are calling a forum full of people who build the most amazing setups, unknowing dunces? Yet, you are unable to set up a simple RDA? How can you expect anyone to help you out when all you do is ignore any advice and portray anyone who tries to help you as inferior beings?

Are you actually saying people should try to recreate your lack of success by picking up smoking?
 
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He said he's never cleaned an RDA or any form of vaping gear. We tested this coil only on the MVP2. We tried a coil where the Kanthal was not pre-torched, and I claimed a metallic taste, and he thought that was the most insane conclusion in the world (pointing toward that he either has smoker's tongue or is just dumb), he even made fun of me when I said that if I can smell oil or something in my RDA, I clean it! He was like "Well, you shouldn't be sniffing around at your RDA's!" That's stupid. I wasn't born yesterday. If something smells nasty, it's gonna taste nasty. I know that much. My other RDA took 6 q-tips to clean out, all being completely coated with black afterward. That's nasty. That doesn't taste good. I know what I'm talking about.

Never a problem with you, it's always someone else who has the problem. I'll address this down just a little further. As far as his comment, I can say it's not stupidity that made him say it, it was sarcasm. It is the same tone many here take with you. Also, while I'm thinking of it, since you seem to be having that metallic taste so often, did you happen to see my post on a different thread about possibly seeing a doctor regarding that? If you don't take care of yourself, nobody will.

The fact that juice will simply boil on a coil without proper airflow is indeed the scientific factor that makes sense, but at 1.1ohms, even at 3.3V's, nothing should be boiling really. That's quite hot. A microcoil sure isn't going to "just boil" anything. They work on entirely different principal (more like an oven, baking something, instead of boiling it). That's why simply coils on replaceable heads don't work well for me and gunk up quick. The simple factor of having so few wraps, spaced apart, simply boils liquid, not vaporizing it. To someone who has smoker's tongue, this much flavor, that syrupy crap, might be exactly what penetrates their tongue. Not mine. I need VAPOR. Not boiled liquid.

Vaporization of an element or compound is a phase transition from the liquid phase to gas phase. There are two types of vaporization: evaporation and boiling. So yes, if it is boiling, it is creating vapor, thus vaporizing it.

Good way to know if your liquid is boiling or not, is how much vapor you get. If you get a lot of vapor, your juice isn't boiling. End of story.

Completely wrong. See above. End of story, for realz.

I only said "He helped me build it." because I wanted to take some credit. Truth is, I barely even touched the thing. Dude built it. Set it up for me. It was the same experience, concerning flavor, that I got from his super-duper build (non-micro). That's what the dude prefers. He started vaping like 9 months ago. He smoked like two packs a day. I dunno what that does to the tongue, but I'm sure his tongue is more damaged than mine, simply because I was tasting pure metal on some of the Evods at the store, and he didn't when he tested them after I pointed it out, and either he was lying, or couldn't taste a pile of manure. I'm not trying to get smart with people, but saying this is all my fault just drives me over the edge. Impossible. I didn't even build the thing. I'm not an expert. I shoulda walked out happy, and I did not, just because dude wanted to hurry up and get home - they were closing, even though I got there two hours early, they had me wait forever just because they were doing interviews.

This is a common theme here, Good News. Nothing is ever you fault, everyone else is to blame except you. First, you lied to us by saying someone helped you build the coil, where in reality, all you did was watch someone else build it for you. Secondly, this guy is a dunce because he likes his coils and you don't? I know I've been saying it quite a bit, but do you even comprehend how arrogant you sound??? And honestly, if you act like this in person as you do on here, I'd have thrown you out of my store long ago, but only after I wasted as much of your time as humanly possible.

I once said that vapors on this forum attack anyone who doesn't act like their their own biggest idiot, and I certainly will refuse to act like that. I usually know exactly what I'm talking about, even if by some rare instance my terminology is incorrect. I don't enjoy people who argue with me because even if I'm wrong on terminology or a specific fact, my "grand finding" is always correct. And it always matches up perfectly with any experience any actually advanced, doing-this-for-years member knows all about.

Sir, it is my humble opinion that in many threads, your "grand finding" is rarely correct. You have been proven wrong more times than Carter has pills. If you knew what you were talking about, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Take for instance the "airflow doesn't affect flavor" theory, or "lots of vapor equal not boiling." Both have been proven wrong by using real science.

Yes, the juice is rather boiling in this coil. It's because it's a simple coil. I could put a couple inches of Kanthal on my mod, in a big old loop (like an old-school TV antenna), dip the wire in a little pool of juice, and it'd probably give me just about the same flavor if I inhale the vapor. I can't do nothing about that because I requested this "8-coil modder guy" to help me build a micro-coil and he evaded my request to the point I had to go with the flow or else get kicked out of the store. I am not happy. Sure, microcoils are difficult. They require exact airflow and position to not taste harsh. Regular coils? You can pretty much do anything with em. I don't think the results would be any better or worse. They're going to vaporize whatever, in the capabilities they have.

This is definitely your fault on this. Nobody *made* you purchase the RDA with the non-microcoil on it. You chose to do that. If you didn't like what was being built for you, you should have left and gone to another store. Or maybe, if you were set on microcoils, maybe you should have forged a relationship with an experienced RDA'er on the forum here and worked out a trade, coils for whatever. But you bought the RDA with the so-called defective coil. You did. Not me, Myrany, Funk Dracula, Santa, or the Easter Bunny. Unless you paid for everything upfront, you were under no obligation to buy the item if it didn't meet your expectations.

I mean, the RDA tastes "ok". I've gotten this same taste when trying the juice in a Protank (but since the RDA and coil is clean, no bad tastes!). Just by principal, this is why it tastes the same - it's the same coil!

No, it's not the same coil. If it were, it wouldn't be made by super-vaper dude at the local B&M, it would be made by Kanger. Unless super-vaper dude was a Kanger coil technician in disguise, that is.
 
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