So - are we getting it or are we not - nicotine

[TWISTED VICTOR]

You do have staying power TV. After you get a good eye wash from some potent american nasal snuff, you get your hands on some of the worst snus out there. It can't help but get better from here on out.

Reassurance, that's the ticket, Stubby, thanks . Strange, but with the Bruton (Brutal) Scotch Snuff in the snot locker I'm not really interested in the Mboro Snus, but feeling really thrilled about checking the mail for the Swedish order. You guys really have me sold .......hey, am I on Candid Camera?

 

[Stubby]

..hey, am I on Candid Camera?

Pssst..... Don't look around.... Just act natural..... But there's cameras everywhere.

I started with the camel... stuff. To be honest I can't say it's terrible, though it didn't deliver enough for me to quit smoking. I've heard its better then the Marlboro snus which I've never had. The Swedes have got the goods.

 

[olderthandirt]

... Strange, but with the Bruton (Brutal) Scotch Snuff in the snot locker I'm not really interested in the Mboro Snus, but feeling really thrilled about checking the mail for the Swedish order. ...

With the Brutons I'm not surprised your not interested in your Marlboro snus. apparently all American Scotches have a high nic level. The 2 I've tried certainly do.

Holiday season and all may have an affect, but my orders from getsnus were always 2-3 days start to finish!

Memory refresh for a dottering old guy. What is DVap up to that ya'll are waiting for?
Safe and simple tobacco soak?

 

[Vaporer]

The only eason I posted the Marlboro thing was the pathetic numbers and statements made by the study. Looked like the typical FDA approved low level failure NRT things we get in the USA.

Like anything else, what works for 1 may not for another. Even though they list it as lower in nic than Camel, it may be good to go for MAOI's and thats what you need and get. Or might be it is less in nic, but your chemistry works with thier components.
I like the Camel Frost flavor, not so much the other one. I was hoping to try the Marlboro and thats why I looked it up. Seems its a trial in IL and Tx only. They already stopped 2 of the 4 flavors. For me, Camel Frost just runs pathetically low compared to Thunder Ice.

All in all it still comes down to the same thing. Just because it works for one person it may not for another, but you shouldn't toss them all off the list without trying them just because one failed. Your experience with Marlboro is a perfect example. Reading that report, I wouldnt have given it much hope except for your actual result after its comparison to Camel which for me and many isn't much, but better than nothing.

OTD, DVap was looking at a way for us commoners to get WTA from RYO in a simple method that left as little crap as possible. Using some solvent/s that are easy to get and not bad if all didnt come back out. Since we cant hope for WTA to hit the streets anytime soon, if we could get a fairly clean 50% recovery that didnt kill the atty or us it would surely be better than no WTA at all.

 

[olderthandirt]

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OTD, DVap was looking at a way for us commoners to get WTA from RYO in a simple method that left as little crap as possible. Using some solvent/s that are easy to get and not bad if all didnt come back out. Since we cant hope for WTA to hit the streets anytime soon, if we could get a fairly clean 50% recovery that didnt kill the atty or us it would surely be better than no WTA at all.

Thanks V.
I've been in a huge mental fog for awhile, life events and all, hard to remember all the important stuff!

 

[TropicalBob]

I'm puzzled that Marlboro worked for you, TV. I'm among those who got nothing, absolutely zero, from it. I tried the first batches. Tasty stuff but no nic. Also tested Camel in its first three flavors. I liked them, but too little nicotine. Loved SkoalDry Cinnamon -- and they killed it off.

Discreet also tastes good, but I'm wanting more nicotine. I tend to snus and e-smoke at the same time, however, so the two practices almost equal smoking alone.

I keep some strong (stark) Swedish snus in the refrigerator, but mostly use snus in the 6mg to 8mg range. This creates a mellow background, minus the overdose buzz that I don't enjoy.

General Thunder Frosted minis are a kick. Taboca is likewise a favorite. These kick! I tried Swedish Camel, both regular and white, before they were banned for export. Didn't like either. Lucky Strike, pre-import ban, was pretty good and could have become a regular for me. But it, too, bit the dust for export.

They joined Romeo y Julieta and Montecristo among the good stuff we Americans can't get. I hope it stops there.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Seems its a trial in IL and Tx only. They already stopped 2 of the 4 flavors. For me, Camel Frost just runs pathetically low compared to Thunder Ice.

They've got it in IN, too, but it's $2.30 for a sample of 6 minis. By what I've read here and looked up on line, the Swedish puts this to shame, both in quality and quantity. The gas stations are now selling bigger packages, but I haven't been interested in quantity or price. A side note, I tried the Camel Mellow (Blaaakk) , I've read the Frost isn't too bad, but lost interest in Camel at that point.

Thanks V.
I've been in a huge mental fog for awhile, life events and all, hard to remember all the important stuff!

The last couple of days have been exceptionally good for me (snuff effect?), but today I feel foggy, anxious, distant, cranky . Yesterday I taught a 2 hour NH3 response refresher to local fire fighters. I'm always very uncomfortable in the instructors chair and prefer to stick to grunt work, but I was surprisingly on top of my game. It couldn't have been any better on my side of the fence or theirs. Today....CRASH . No reason. I just know that if I were to attempt a repeat today it would be a complete no-go. I feel for you, friend. Must be the weather. I thought if I hit the snuff a little harder (think Al Paccino in Scareface) my outlook would improve. Not yet and still waiting, but not holding my breath. Maybe tomorrow .

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

I'm puzzled that Marlboro worked for you, TV. I'm among those who got nothing, absolutely zero, from it. I tried the first batches. Tasty stuff but no nic. Also tested Camel in its first three flavors. I liked them, but too little nicotine. Loved SkoalDry Cinnamon -- and they killed it off.

Discreet also tastes good, but I'm wanting more nicotine. I tend to snus and e-smoke at the same time, however, so the two practices almost equal smoking alone.

I keep some strong (stark) Swedish snus in the refrigerator, but mostly use snus in the 6mg to 8mg range. This creates a mellow background, minus the overdose buzz that I don't enjoy.

General Thunder Frosted minis are a kick. Taboca is likewise a favorite. These kick! I tried Swedish Camel, both regular and white, before they were banned for export. Didn't like either. Lucky Strike, pre-import ban, was pretty good and could have become a regular for me. But it, too, bit the dust for export.

They joined Romeo y Julieta and Montecristo among the good stuff we Americans can't get. I hope it stops there.

I don't know TBob. I never slowed on the PV with the Mboro so maybe I was sucking up some maoi's. I did like the flavor, though. The only Discreet I tried was the Full Flavor and found the taste so overpowering I couldn't keep it in for more than about 5 minutes. I've heard much good about the Thunder Frosted and have some on the way. I'm looking very forward to it's arrival..got the order tracking # today .

 

[TropicalBob]

I'm in full agreement on "full flavor" Discreet. Dreadful stuff. Like licking an ashtray. Peach and Strawberry were surprisingly tasty.

I regularly go for General Mini Mint, Thunder Frosted Mini, Ettan white and Tabaco. I've got some Odin's on order in cinnamon flavor, which I should like from both a taste and nicotine standpoint.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Oow, cinnamon....

 

[frankie1]

Missing DVap! He must be all tied up with wedding plans...LOL

 

[frankie1]

Just PMed IANAN. Hope to hear back soon .

Heard anything?

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Missing DVap! He must be all tied up with wedding plans...LOL

Yes, I figure he's got a busy, busy week on his hands . Missin' the "Mad Chemist", though. Seems kinda empty around here .

Heard anything?

Not yet. Maybe busy, too. Maybe said the heck with it and decided to stick with fulltime analogs.....maybe found some good herbs to take his mind off everything........

 

[DVap]

Snus... Dissolvables... WTA.

Feel better, Vic?

Naw, seriously, I am kinda busy and enjoying the break from this funhouse.

I've been watching my "home WTA" for days now... I'm gonna have to heat the sucker up. Ethanol just doesn't evaporate too well on it's own. My assessment of the likelihood of success is "not all that promising".

May have to revisit with another approach.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Snus... Dissolvables... WTA.

Feel better, Vic?

Naw, seriously, I am kinda busy and enjoying the break from this funhouse.

I've been watching my "home WTA" for days now... I'm gonna have to heat the sucker up. Ethanol just doesn't evaporate too well on it's own. My assessment of the likelihood of success is "not all that promising".

May have to revisit with another approach.

A little heat never hurt anything, just ask my wife.....well, I guess that might only might apply to me . Anyway, good to know you're still alive and kickin' . Figuring we need to get use to the withdrawl since we'll soon be sharing with Mrs. DVap, though. If you decide to introduce her to your gooney friends, let me know before hand...might need a hand keeping OTD in line, ya know .

 

[frankie1]

YaY! Dvap lives!! congrats on the future Mrs. Dvap!!

Now if only we could find Ianan!

 

[DVap]

Yep.. the "safe" extraction for WTA was a steaming pile of fail.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Yep.. the "safe" extraction for WTA was a steaming pile of fail.

Well, double !! Had high hopes. .....kiddin' about the wife's advice. It's not actually heat she uses, just silence...loudly. Maybe you should try that. Didn't set the living room on fire, did you?

 

[DVap]

Vic,

I'm not in any trouble, ok?

Wondering.. Perhaps some of our dissolvable tobacco users could help with this one.. Do Stonewall dissolvables seem to provide the 'x-factor'?

 

[Vaporer]

For me dissolveables have only nic effect, no WTA at all.