So Confused - Just Quit, Need Advice on Starter Vape Kit

[Rixsta]

This in no way meant to sound rude but google is your friend, so is searching these forums, read and read some more is also key before buying anything to help you quit smoking.
My moto has always been read first, ask later, especially when it's something as important as giving up the cigs..

 

[birdfor3]

A "mod" is the term used to describe the part that either houses, or is battery for the device. Some "mods" have built in batteries which can't be changed. You just charge the device itself. The benefit of this type is that it is all a self contained unit. When you buy it, you don't have to worry about buying batteries or a charger. Others allow you to replace the battery or batteries. These have the advantage of being able to have multiple batteries charged at one time, meaning you can just swap the dead ones out for fresh ones at any time. Also, the device can still be used if one of your batteries goes bad.

Thought it meant modulation. That term makes no sense lol. It should just be called the battery housing.

Anyway, what would you suggest is the best situation to get? The self contained unit, or the one that allows you to swap out batteries, etc. And what would your best recommendations be as far as purchases.

 

[Izan]

Mod= I blame on Trogg and the screwdriver.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

mod = fancy name for a fancy battery. modified battery? I dunno. to vape you need 3 things... 1. the mod/battery (eLeaf iStick 30 Watt) 2. the tank/clearomizer (Aspire Nautilus Mini) 3. e juice

Mods come in 2 basic versions 1. Internal batteries where you just plug a recharger into it (think cell phone charger), and 2. replaceable batteries, where when it gets low in power you swap out the batteries and put the used one on a charger . In this type it is recommended to buy a separate battery charger in addition to extra batteries though most units offer charging capability by plugging the charger into it.

 

[birdfor3]

This in no way meant to sound rude but google is your friend, so is searching these forums, read and read some more is also key before buying anything to help you quit smoking.
My moto has always been read first, ask later, especially when it's something as important as giving up the cigs..

It sounds rude as hell b/c I've been polite to everybody. Did it ever occur to you bruh that some people don't WANT to exhaust themselves with more "reading" when they can communicate with real people like you would in a NORMAL conversation and get advice the sociable way?

How the heck do you think teachers exist? By throwing books at their students and say "read this, don't ask me any damn question, not to be rude of course". I've made it clear that I'm trying to be a student here. This isn't WWII Germany, I can ask as many questions as I please. That's how learning is done, it's called auditory (or visual) processing.

Oh and not "to be rude", but IF YOU had read my OP, you'd notice I HAVE spent just an hour this evening researching. It's still very complicated, and the best way to learn is get 1st-hand advice.

 

[Denvap0r]

Teachers get paid I believe and everyone here has been nice. There is no one answer to your questions

 

[birdfor3]

mod = fancy name for a fancy battery. modified battery? I dunno. to vape you need 3 things... 1. the mod/battery (eLeaf iStick 30 Watt) 2. the tank/clearomizer (Aspire Nautilus Mini) 3. e juice

Mods come in 2 basic versions 1. Internal batteries where you just plug a recharger into it , and 2. replaceable batteries, where when it gets low in power you swap out the batteries and put the used one on a charger (think cell phone charger). In this type it is recommended to buy a separate battery charger in addition to extra batteries though most units offer charging capability by plugging the charger into it.

Thanks brotha.

I'll probably be choosing between your suggestons, and that rude guy who has a bug Moderated about asking people questions. Apparently explaining oneself is tough for him, so "google".

Hello google, how are you, could you tell me the best mod kid for vaping along with juice at the most fair market price? Oh you don't speak? That question hasn't been answered fully or in that specific fashion and would require multiple searches and hours of reading?

 

[birdfor3]

Teachers get paid I believe and everyone here has been nice. There is no one answer to your questions

You're not a mod correct? Then let that guy say what he has to for himself. Sticking up for him seems suspect, and I'm gonna leave it at that.

Anytime someone says "this isn't meant to be rude"....it's meant to be rude. Just like "I'm not racist, but"...

I asked him a follow up question, and if you think sharing knowledge is a hassle, then get out this thread, and pay me no mind. Otherwise you're basically trolling, and I don't appreciate that at all.

 

[Bunnykiller]

best and cheap dont work together.... you have to spend more for best..
with the amount of smoking you were doing, you were at about 1.25$ a day... gonna seem pricey when you start vaping as you purchase the initial hardware and a few bottles of juice... once the hardware has been purchased, its just a matter of juice and wick/coils to keep up with.. if you get premade coils, the cost factor will remain about the same as your smoking costs... so you wont see much of a savings there...

 

[Rixsta]

thanks kindly sir.

Could you explain what you mean about coils, and this whole situation as far as lung hitting. You don't HAVE to link to this Subox, I can google, but that would've been helpful.

Outta curiosity - why do you think in detail Subox is a better starter kit than the Nautilus and Istick?

Ah there is so much to explain ...

A lower ohm coil like what comes in the Subox kit - 0.5ohm coil (subohm) requires more wattage and will give out more vapour. The wattage rating is 15W-60w, the mod, or the device that powers the coil has a variable wattage so you can change it to your desired vape, usually within the range of the coil, I find 35 watts to be the sweet spot. The 0.5ohm coil is also designed for lung hitting, where you draw the vapour directly into your lungs and then exhale, it sounds a bit weird I guess but becomes very natural and is the only way I vape now.. Also the tank has an airflow control where you can open or shut off air, for lung hitting it is best suited to wide open, airy draw, lung hit..

A higher ohm coil also comes with the Subox kit - 1.5ohm coil requires less wattage and will produce less vapour. The wattage for that coil is rated 10W - 26W. The 1.5ohm coil is designed for mouth to lung, like you would smoke a cigarette, where you draw the vapour into your mouth first and then into your lungs. Usually you would close off some of the air flow, tighter draw, mouth to lung.

This is why I recommended the Subox as it has something for everyone and it gives you the option for both styles of vaping, or the option to at least try both..

You will need a single 18650 battery, the VTC5's are good but I have used a Samsung 25r and that worked fine too. I would suggest you buy a separate charger, the on board charger, I'm just not comfortable using, the Nitecore i2 is a decent charger for the money.

You can buy separate 5 packs of coils when needed

Something else to be aware of, for the 0.5ohm coil, you get more vapor and more nicotine so you will need to reduce your nic to about 6mg if you are lung hitting, also the pg ratio in the e liquid shouldn't be too high as this will cause to much throat hit (kind of burning, harsh feeling).. With the 1.5ohm coil, you would need a higher nicotine in your e liquid when doing mouth to lung as you are gettting less vapour and less nic, I'd suggest 12mg (Personal preference)..

Why I'd recommend this over the Nautilus is mostly from what I've already said, the Nautilus will limit you more and you will probably end up buying again.. The Nautilus just has way less options.

I hope this helps somewhat

 

[birdfor3]

best and cheap dont work together.... you have to spend more for best..
with the amount of smoking you were doing, you were at about 1.25$ a day... gonna seem pricey when you start vaping as you purchase the initial hardware and a few bottles of juice... once the hardware has been purchased, its just a matter of juice and wick/coils to keep up with.. if you get premade coils, the cost factor will remain about the same as your smoking costs... so you wont see much of a savings there...

If you read, I didn't say cheap, I said cheaper than I was spending. I've been spending approx. 77 bucks a month. Thus, I'd like to spend less than that. I've had to offset no nicotine with more alcohol though.

I will not buy anything used, that's dumb to me (too much risk). And the "amount" of smoking I was doing was minimal at best compared to most (1/3 pack a day? you serious?).

I appreciate your input anyway.

I didn't get a recommendation from you btw. There a reason for that?

 

[Rixsta]

You're not a mod correct? Then let that guy say what he has to for himself. Sticking up for him seems suspect, and I'm gonna leave it at that.

Anytime someone says "this isn't meant to be rude"....it's meant to be rude. Just like "I'm not racist, but"...

I asked him a follow up question, and if you think sharing knowledge is a hassle, then get out this thread, and pay me no mind. Otherwise you're basically trolling, and I don't appreciate that at all.

You have me completely wrong, sorry if it came over that way, I just meant it is important to read and then read some more as there is so much to learn, then come and ask questions later, that applies to most things in life. Again, as you can see above, Im always here to help and am certainly not a troll.

 

[drugarth]

I second the Istick 30w with the Nautilus Mini tank as a great starter option.
Great vape and very simple.

So what do you need to buy:
- 1 Istick 30W
- 1 Nautilus mini
- 1 bottle of juice (sorry don't do menthol so can't recommend)

It is very simple to use: just fill the tank (the nautilus)with juice. Screw it on the Mod (the Istick). Set the Istick to somewhere between 8 and 12 watts and vape away.

 

[birdfor3]

Ah there is so much to explain ...

A lower ohm coil like what comes in the Subox kit - 0.5ohm coil (subohm) requires more wattage and will give out more vapour. The wattage rating is 15W-60w, the mod, or the device that powers the coil has a variable wattage so you can change it to your desired vape, usually within the range of the coil, I find 35 watts to be the sweet spot. The 0.5ohm coil is also designed for lung hitting, where you draw the vapour directly into your lungs and then exhale, it sounds a bit weird I guess but becomes very natural and is the only way I vape now.. Also the tank has an airflow control where you can open or shut of air, for lung hitting it is best suited to wide open, airy draw, lung hit..

A higher ohm coil also comes with the Subox kit - 1.5ohm coil requires less wattage and will produce less vapour. The wattage for that coil is rated 10W - 26W. The 1.5ohm coil is designed for mouth to lung, like you would smoke a cigarette, where you draw the vapour into your mouth first and then into your lungs. Usually you would close off some of the air flow, tighter draw, mouth to lung.

This is why I recommended the Subox as it has something for everyone and it gives you the option for both styles of vaping, or the option to at least try both..

You will need a single 18650 battery, the VTC5's are good but I have used a Samsung 25r and that worked fine too. I would suggest you buy a separate charger, the on board charger, I'm just not comfortable using, the Nitecore i2 is a decent charger for the money.

You can buy separate 5 packs of coils when needed

Something else to be aware of, for the 0.5ohm coil, you get more vapor and more nicotine so you will need to reduce your nic to about 6mg if you are lung hitting, also the pg ratio in the e liquid shouldn't be too high as this will cause to much throat hit (kind of burning, harsh feeling).. With the 1.5ohm coil, you would need a higher nicotine in your e liquid when doing mouth to lung as you are gettting less vapour and less nic, I'd suggest 12mg (Personal preference)..

Why I'd recommend this over the Nautilus is mostly from what I've already said, the Nautilus will limit you more and you will probably end up buying again.. The Nautilus just has way less options.

I hope this helps somewhat

Instead of being a smart ... you could've led with this, and I'd have stuck a bunch of 100's down your G-string dude.

I grudgingly say thanks, you made up for the snafu before. Listen, I just want the best on a budget. You explained your reasons, that's all I needed. Some of it I still don't quite get, but that's fine.

Now how long do you think it would've taken me to find out the answers you just supplied (which I assume are accurate?) through "googling"? An hour? 2? 3? Never? I don't even know WHAT to google thus I ask the pros. There you go...

 

[birdfor3]

You have me completely wrong, sorry if it came over that way, I just meant it is important to read and then read some more as there is so much to learn, then come and ask questions later, that applies to most things in life. Again, as you can see above, Im always here to help and am certainly not a troll.

That reply wasn't even to you dude. lol. So it's kind of like you have yourself completely wrong.

And it doesn't "apply" to most things in life, that's BS. If I wanna learn to drive, filling out the registration form and taking the written test don't come CLOSE to having an experienced driver SHOW ME how to learn a stick shift. Or picking out a car - should I google and get a bunch of advertised nonsense, or ask several real buyers?

In Ancient Greece students gathered without pen and paper to LEARN history lessons passed on through speech and even theatre (that was mostly Rome but still). I have specific needs and questions. I needed tailored replies from willing and more importantly patient and kind-hearted people. Period.

 

[birdfor3]

I second the Istick 30w with the Nautilus Mini tank as a great starter option.
Great vape and very simple.

So what do you need to buy:
- 1 Istick 30W
- 1 Nautilus mini
- 1 bottle of juice (sorry don't do menthol so can't recommend)

It is very simple to use: just fill the tank (the nautilus)with juice. Screw it on the Mod (the Istick). Set the Istick to somewhere between 8 and 12 watts and vape away.

Thanks for your reply. That's 2 in favor of this setup, 1 for Subox. I'll wait for more replies before choosing.

 

[Rixsta]

@birdfor3, ok, point taken, Anyway I hope it helps and good luck with quitting ..

 

[Bunnykiller]

If you read, I didn't say cheap, I said cheaper than I was spending. I've been spending approx. 77 bucks a month. Thus, I'd like to spend less than that. I've had to offset no nicotine with more alcohol though.

I will not buy anything used, that's dumb to me (too much risk). And the "amount" of smoking I was doing was minimal at best compared to most (1/3 pack a day? you serious?).

I appreciate your input anyway.

I didn't get a recommendation from you btw. There a reason for that?

77$ a month is not bad at all, between myself and my wife we were smoking about 500$ a month... me at 2-3 PAD her at 1 PAD...

since you mentioned drinking... what is the best/better beer to get/drink?

I can offer all sorts of ideas on purchasing equipment... but is it going to be the right equipment for you? Vaping can be quite personal when it comes to the equipment...
for me my favorite mod is the SVD by Itaste and the atty I prefer is the RSST by SMOK. For my heavy hitting vape sessions I use the IPV4 and a dual coiled RSST. When Im wanting to fiddle around and do some layed back vaping, its the copper Overdose mech with the Aqua atty

 

[glointhedark]

You still have to do some research for yourself. We are trying to help you, but the final decision is up to you.

When we were seriously considering going back to smoking, we started looking into vaping. My daughter had heard about ecigarettes somewhere, to this day she cannot remember where. We used Google, and started researching. We had not heard about ECF. We hemmed and hawed. My daughter caved, and bought a Blu disposable to see if it would help with the cravings. I had her get me one, too. It worked. We both got Blu kits, and used the Blu cartridges. I had seen online that Blu cartridges could be refilled. We found a vendor in Ohio that sold eliquids, and started refilling our Blu cartridges, which was a mess. We were not happy with the nicotine level or the pg/vg ratio that we originally chose. We went back to the Blu cartidges. The quality control was going downhill - this was around the time that Blu was in the process of being sold to Lorillard. We got together enough money to get different cigalike kits, and found nicotine levels and pg/vg ratios that we were happy with. We started refilling the cartridges in the new kits to suit what we liked.

A year or so later, I discovered ECF, thanks to the link from our eliquid supplier (thanks, VaporBomb). I started reading the forums and reviews, and finally joined ECF.

My daughter and I had been increasingly frustrated that some flavors (like chocolate) clogged our cartridges to the point that we would not order flavors that we liked because once the cartridges were clogged we needed to throw out the cartridges. I read reviews. I read the forums. I decided that Kanger Evods would help us, since the coils were rebuildable, cleanable, rewickable. We waited to order our Evod kits until we could afford it. We could not be happier with the equipment that we have now.

You need to do some research for yourself. We are not mind readers here. In the end, it is up to you to decide what is best for you, with your budget and needs in mind.

 

[birdfor3]

77$ a month is not bad at all, between myself and my wife we were smoking about 500$ a month... me at 2-3 PAD her at 1 PAD...

since you mentioned drinking... what is the best/better beer to get/drink?

there is only one beer, and that is guinness. otherwise, I drink red wine. LOTS. it has antioxidants at least.

I can offer all sorts of ideas on purchasing equipment... but is it going to be the right equipment for you? Vaping can be quite personal when it comes to the equipment...
for me my favorite mod is the SVD by Itaste and the atty I prefer is the RSST by SMOK. For my heavy hitting vape sessions I use the IPV4 and a dual coiled RSST. When Im wanting to fiddle around and do some layed back vaping, its the copper Overdose mech with the Aqua atty

you've lost me after "for me" and you did it on purpose, didn't you you slimy {Moderated}. lol.

atty, rsst, mech? are you putting a PC together or running Html? I was looking to go from newbie to novice, you realize this yes? Not newbie to Einstein Level Gamma X.