Yep, same here @crxess. Everything I have bought for myself over the past 4 years is still going strong (well, not my original cig-a-like, The batteries died but didn't break). My youngest sister on the other hand
I think she could break an anvil. 
So disappointed in VV/VW mod hardware quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think she could break an anvil. I had the same experience, many items failed, other items simply disappointed me. I invested far more than you have and most of it was what I consider waste spending. I would have got the item that has worked much earlier but people right and left were telling me I didn't need it. When I got a Provari my large system problems pretty much vanished. Version 2.5's are fairly cheap right now. Less than $100.00.
I would have saved thousands if I had ignored the people telling me they were a waste of money. A Provari was the best money saving move I have made since starting.
Once I got one and had it a month I was pretty upset with all the people who told me not to get one. They are true tanks. Durable, reliable. Until lately they were what some consider short on the most advanced features in the 2.5 day but it did everything I wanted and is rock solid reliable.
Edit, I just looked it up. $80.00
ProVari Regular & Mini Variable Voltage Ecig: Best Variable Voltage E Cig Available!
I have never regretted getting one, I have regretted so many of the other things I bought. Actually I am angry about the people that told me to ignore the Provari fans, they cost me many times the price of a Provari.
So many devices can't handle someone with an active life but might hold up for someone that sits most of the time.
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Yep, same here @crxess. Everything I have bought for myself over the past 4 years is still going strong (well, not my original cig-a-like, The batteries died but didn't break). My youngest sister on the other hand
I think it has a lot to do with activity levels of the owners.
Some of us came from an era where things didn't have to be handled tenderly and could survive active people.
Right, everything was stronger but was also a lot bigger...I'm sure a 4 pound brick is just what new vapors want to be lugging around with them, running on 20 D cells..but at least you can drop it then
Nope, but I have tools from the 50's that I like better than many made today. Well, some good tools exist today but they are very expensive, some analog measuring gear will cost thousands today.
A single 18650 is plenty but most things are not made like they used to be, most not all. We are a nation that has become fat and inactive to a large extent, we are also a throw away society as well. Things used to be made so you could drop them and be user serviceable and it wasn't that long ago.
There ya go again, always blaming the person and never the product - to paraphrase your comment, You may be in a group of what I call people abusive people lol
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We have moved from the TV era to the Video game era but some people are as active as they were before TV and then video games ruled our lives. The world has changed but not for everyone and product durability has most certainly dropped on average.
There was a reason things used to be well built in the past. It would be nice if there were more items that fit people that are still as active as the general population used to be.
There was a reason things used to be well built in the past. It would be nice if there were more items that fit people that are still as active as the general population used to be.
Electronic components have gotten smaller and smaller. Battery power tools did not exist in the 50s...So unless you want to drag around a power cord, stop dropping your stuff and take better care of it
They had cords on them and they were serviceable. You could get parts for them. Funny, HK in Germany has one part of their plant modern but for some operations they searched around the world for equipment from the 40's and use that equipment to this day. Some thing has happened in the USA.
Electronics might have gotten smaller but there are components beyond electronics. Because something has electronics does it mean it has to be flimsy?
Long ago I had some ego batteries fail and a kanger EMOW battery failed at 3 months. Two Istick 30w have been going strong for 9 months and a third for 5 months and an Istick 40w 3 months. I've dropped the Istick 30s with nautilus mini's on concrete and the worst that happened is I broke the drip tips. So I've been lucky overall. I guess I could infer human error like some here LOVE to do, but I'm smart enough to realize my own experiences are very limited so I attribute the early failures people report to quality control which appears to be very poor in vaping hardware. Yes some people could misuse a product, but I'm not going to mindlessly ASSUME that they have, especially with as many failures I've seen reported. Can I be any clearer folks?
Same here. Have had probably 50 different mods in 2.5 years - none more than $50 or $60. None have failed.
My sister began vaping about 6 months ago. I had planned on loaning her one of my Provari's, but she held it and said it was "too heavy". Together, we made a road trip to the closest vape shop to pick out her first setup.
She chose an iStick 30 watt with a Nautilus tank. Within a few days, the circuit board just stopped working. Still under warranty, but the drive back to the store for exchange was a 2 hour trip one way. I loaned her my original iTaste MVP I was no longer using while she ordered a second iStick 30 online in the meantime until she could make it back to the vape shop. It fell off her coffee table and broke within a couple of days.
I couldn't help thinking to myself had she taken my offer to use one of my Provari's she wouldn't have experienced any of the above scenario's.
She chose an iStick 30 watt with a Nautilus tank. Within a few days, the circuit board just stopped working. Still under warranty, but the drive back to the store for exchange was a 2 hour trip one way. I loaned her my original iTaste MVP I was no longer using while she ordered a second iStick 30 online in the meantime until she could make it back to the vape shop. It fell off her coffee table and broke within a couple of days.
I couldn't help thinking to myself had she taken my offer to use one of my Provari's she wouldn't have experienced any of the above scenario's.
Sometimes it is, but when you start to see threads pop up over and over (here and on other websites) about the same issue with the same mod, you have to start admitting there's a problem with the device.
Off the top of my head, Vamo 510 thread issues, the "o-ring fix" needed on several different devices (the insulator on the 510 would fall apart, causing either a short or allowing the 510 pin to work its way down losing contact with the atomizer), SVD failures, Istick 50 failures, the bad batch of DNA40's, and there's a DNA200 mod out there (I can't recall which one at the moment) where users are reporting that their 510 connectors are coming unglued from the body of the mod.
And that's a partial list from the last two years that I've been vaping. I'm no mechanical genius, but I've been taking things apart, fixing them, and putting them back together for a living for the past 30 years, from small electronics to large motors and generators, and I've had a handful of outright failures myself.
Outright abuse is one thing, but sometimes the issue is poor materials, workmanship, or lack of quality control.
Big hits going on without knowing responders.
12hr shifts. warehouse work, Fast paced constant movement, heavy equipment operation, in/out of trailers all day, etc.
off time, Motorcycling, boating/fishing, log splitting, etc.?
Seriously? more like taking an extra second to think.
*Provari 2.5 is an excellent mod, though old hat in terms of chip capability.
Still, if I owned one, my goal would still be to AVOID possible damage. And even the Provari owners must admit - the warranty is there for a reason. There have been failures requiring repair.
Built can be broken
Even with High end Mechs, every Good maker sells replacement parts
When I started vaping almost 3 years ago I started out with the sort of equipment you mention, the eGo stuff, and VV/VW stuff, and it just didn't cut it for me either. It's just not made to last. It's mass produced cheaply as possible, and it's going to fail a short way down the road.
I hope your new box mod doesn't disappoint you too. What I ended up doing in the end was to go with authentic mech mods. Yeah, I know, it's pricey stuff, but you do get what you pay for at the end of the day. Back when I was starting out and buying clones they made sense with my budget. Lot's of people who were fortunate to be able to afford authentic gear posted here how much better it was and how lousy clones were. They were right when it comes to mods for sure. Over time the authentics deliver, both in performance and durability.
Just my .02....
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