So far these are costing me 6x more than regular smokes

[Molgaard]

Hahah, I think I'm still a bit too novice to be mixing my own potions already, but I foresee much expensive fun in the future doing so.

Michael Curry - I saw that eGo T as well on Liberty Flights - would you recommend that over the standard eGo?

 

[Warlordxxx]

Oh and liberty flights has a 510 standard at £19.99 i believe - that's also a good start but the batts are only 180mAh and you're possibly going to need both before a day is over

 

[Molgaard]

Could someone kindly explain the difference/benefits of having a tank cartridge? And would you go for the eGo over the Riva if price weren't an issue? Thanks again for the overwhelming amount of help from you all, I wasn't expecting a reply until tomorrow but straight away I have three pages of them!

Oh and lastly, are all carts refillable? I'm looking at the starter kits on LF, some come with blank carts and some with tobacco carts. Is the separately purchased juice compatible with any cart?

 

[Zombitedesade]

Tanks effectively do away with any sort of filler material and are like a pool of juice slowly wicked through a threaded spike into the atomiser. Some people like them, for me I've always found they dull my juices and flavour production is just lacking on them. You might have better luck however so don't discount them completely.

All cartridges and cartomizers are refillable AFAIK. The only diff with the ones already filled is you'll have to vape them first before filling them, you'll prob also need to consider filling them with a similar juice, so tobacco pre filled carts should be filled with tobacco juices, else stuff is gonna taste funky!

They can be filled with any juice. Bare in mind some will perform better on thinner juices. So mainly PG mixes. This is because VG mixes are thicker and can take longer to wick into the heating coil. 50/50 mix juices are less of a prob with this though.

 

[stretchpants]

Liberty flights is based in the U.K. They are my go to vaper store.Their prices are fab.I like their juice. You might want to try an ego kit.You get 2 batts,2 attys,some cartridges and the charger.Drip your own juice.It's not a far leap from rolling your own and even though the jury isn't in on the safeness of vaping we all know about smoking.If you go to the site be sure to click the 20% off button at the top of the page.

 

[Mickydibble]

Hey mate I went for this in the end and it's ace,get some juices and boge standard cartos while your there and input "allabout" for 10% off everything Riva 1100 Kit £32.99 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid you won't regret it . Micky

 

[Baldr]

I heard there's a unanimously loved liquid called RY4, although I haven't managed to find it yet... Apparently it's a tobacco and caramel type flavour, sounds nice.

I have some of that. IMO, it's not really a tobacco (though everyplace it's listed, it's listed with and described as a tobacco.)

A lot of people like it, but I'll lay you odds that everyone that if a big fan of RY4 is a fan of sweet flavors in general. Finding tobacco flavors that don't taste like caramel or vanilla isn't easy.

I'm not hating on it, but it's not "universally loved".

 

[Molgaard]

Perfect, thanks.

Then it's between the eGo and the 510 - the only difference is battery life, right? If I have a spare battery then maybe the big eGo one isn't necessary as one can charge while I use the other. Then I need to choose between having a tank model or not. Sounds unnecessary from what you say.

Edit: Also the above-mentioned Riva 1100 kit. I do like the appearance of the gold one...

 

[MasterofChaos]

I would say that there is a definite difference in manufacturing quality between the eGo and the Riva. They are kind of like the difference between a "no name brand" and a brand name. You do save money with a Riva, so if that's most important to you, then I would suggest you go with that. Make sure you are buying genuine Joye eGo devices, though (not clones, there are plenty of them out there) there are lots of reputable vendors out there that sell them.

There are some places where you can get pretty good deals on Genuine Joye eGo kits.

If lowest absolute price is not your primary issue, always go for quality in both manufacturer and vendor, IMHO.

 

[markfm]

Standard riva 510 with 750 mAh batteries is pretty much equivalent to a standard ego with 650 mAh (at one time at least they actually had the same battery inside them - the diff in claimed mAh was "specmanship" ), though newer rivas start at a higher voltage (a positive thing to some).

 

[MTV]

the eGo batt is regulated...so voltage will remain constant...also has a battery shutoff(5 quick button presses) so you can stick it in your pocket without activating the batt. The Riva has more inital voltage...but is unregulated so the voltage decreases as you vape....is cheaper in terms of price. Both are good

 

[OrthodoxAtheist]

Could someone kindly explain the difference/benefits of having a tank cartridge? And would you go for the eGo over the Riva if price weren't an issue? Thanks again for the overwhelming amount of help from you all, I wasn't expecting a reply until tomorrow but straight away I have three pages of them!...

My experience has been the reverse of Zombitedesades with respect to tank cartridges. My first device was the eGo-T and now I'm using the type B tanks (approx 2ml) with the tube SR attys, as opposed to the eGo-T's cone attys. Type B is a great step forward in the tank system... better size mouthpiece, easier draw, I've had 0 leaks, 2ml lasts me about a day (former 1 PAD smoker), and the eGo-T's 900mah battery lasts me 31 hours on average. So I fill one tank (re-usable - I've used one 10 times now with no problems), change my battery for the one that's been left on charge (experienced no shortage of life letting them sit on charge with charger that came with the device), and I'm done 'messing around' for the day. I can vape for 24 hours with no fuss. I've never had juice in my mouth from this device. I know many have had issues with the eGo-T, and the tank system, but for me it has been flawless. Just a short (maybe 1 week) period where you learn how best to use it (strength of draw, best liquids etc.) but from thereon, I have no compunction to change device or smoke an analog. The only thing I have considered is a second device with voltage of 5v or 6v to see if I'd prefer it from the eGo's 3.7v (I think) but otherwise... I can now keep it simple and just buy liquids.

In terms of price, in keeping with the title of your thread, using my eGo-T has been between 4x and 12x cheaper than smoking, depending on how quickly you learn how to treat your attys. I haven't cleaned one yet and my latest atty is still popping like new after nearly 3 weeks. I just bought 75ml of liquid (more than 1 month's supply for me) for $25. I was usually spending $180 per month, so less than 1/6th of the cost of smoking.

There is a liter of menthol e-liquid available here on the forums from one seller, for about $71 with shipping. That would last me about 500 days, which works out to be about $0.14 per day or $1 a week to vape. So $4 a month instead of $180 for smoking. That's how ridiculously cheap it can get if you take care of your attys. I could vape a whole year for under $50. LMAO.

The eGo-T is a GREAT device. I'm not knocking the others for starters (Riva), or the devices the veterans use (eg. ProVari, Darwin), but I'd compare the eGo-T to the likes of the Kindle and iPhone... they set the standard for future comparisons, imo.

Congrats on getting of cigs.

 

[stretchpants]

I have 2 favorite Liberty Flights Juices.
Highway and U.S.A.mix.I'm a tobacco girl but I love a good ry4 on occasion.It's not liberty flights.
I would go for the ego.You will love it.
Good luck!

 

[Michael Curry]

Michael Curry - I saw that eGo T as well on Liberty Flights - would you recommend that over the standard eGo?

I went with the T simply because I knew I would be swapping flavors out a good bit, and extra tanks are ridiculously cheap. I am keeping several tanks filled with various flavors right now. Swapping out it a matter of pulling one off and slipping the next one in.

I opted for tanks because they will hold enough juice to get me through a day, and refilling them is as a matter of taking the top off, (or bottom technically) and squirting the juice in. With a cartomizer I would have less capacity and a bit more of a process to refill. (Not a major production to refill - but not as simple either). Also, with a tank, I can rinse it and go with a different flavor if I choose. Don't have that option with a cartomizer.

With a tank type, you have your atomizer and simply swap out tanks. Like I said, tanks cost next to nothing, cartomizers are a bit more.

No matter which one you get, you can still swap back and forth easily because the threads on the battery fit other things as well. For me, and at this time, the tank was really the way to go.

 

[Michael Curry]

I have some of that. IMO, it's not really a tobacco (though everyplace it's listed, it's listed with and described as a tobacco.)

A lot of people like it, but I'll lay you odds that everyone that if a big fan of RY4 is a fan of sweet flavors in general. Finding tobacco flavors that don't taste like caramel or vanilla isn't easy.

I'm not hating on it, but it's not "universally loved".

The descriptions of it that I have seen make me think it is a mimic of Lane Ltd.'s ubiquitous "1-Q" pipe tobacco. While definitely not 'universally loved', it has been the leading seller for decades. For me, 1-Q was a love/hate thing. I am hoping to get more info on it, maybe even find some and try it. If it actually tastes like 1-Q smells, it would be great.

@Molgaard - Totally different animal from the pipe tobaccos you would have exposure to in the UK, I believe. I think you guys have or had a law that only allows the good stuff to be sold there.

 

[markfm]

Just to confuse things more, in my case I preferred cartomizers (cartos). I'm a big fan of the boge 2 ohm cartos.

Standard 180 mAh 510 are a bit restrictive. Their runtime is relatively short, and you shouldn't use lower resistance atomizers or cartos on them (the small batteries cannot deliver the higher current, will tend to fail early). I tend to recommend the larger batteries for anyone who smokes more than a few cigs a day, unless they absolutely have to have something really small.

(lower resistance means more power, warmth, vapor, which most people want)

 

[Molgaard]

Hmm, so what's the difference between a cartomizer and a regular cart? Which would I be dealing with if I started with a regular eGo? Also what is dripping? Do I need a drip tip to go with it? Should I get a low resistance atty with the eGo, and if so which type? That should clear everything up for me...!

 

[Michael Curry]

Also what is dripping? Do I need a drip tip to go with it?

Dripping is simply putting drops of fluid straight onto the atomizer. With a sealed battery (which the eGo does have) you can do it with impunity. I love it for tasting and for mixing my own concoctions, but I don't use it as some do - as a regular vaping technique. In essence, when you drip as a vaping style, you are manually doing what the tank does automatically.

My eGo-T had a 'dummy' mouthpiece tip on it in the original box. Was meant for display only, probably. Of course you pop that out and put in a tank in place of it normally... But that dummy tip has a little airhole in it. For what I use dripping for, it works fine. (If I am testing proportions, like 2:1 Caramel:Chocolate I drip the fluids in, pop the dummy tip in and I'm good to go.)

The drip tips I have seen are open more at the top so that you can drip fluid onto the atty without having to remove the tip. Nice - but I prefer to let the tank do that for me.

 

[Zombitedesade]

Just to be even more irritating, I'd rather have a CE2-XL of juice over anything else! Yes I'm one of those strange dudes that actually likes clearomizers!

They are not a great beginner kit though and for that haven't recommended them here.

Really wish my tank experiences had echoed that of some here, but every time I tried they just disappointed. I may revisit them one day and try a ego tank style setup, before I was using a 510 pen style (Titan) one and was nothing but a poor experience.

 

[markfm]

A cartomizer is the thing that looks just like a cig filter, combines an atomizer and a cartridge (liquid holder) in one unit.
A standard cartomizer can hold about 0.8 - 1 ml of liquid, more than a standalone cartridge.
Most people tend to be drippers or carto users, I haven't heard of many who stick with using cartridges.
The atomizers that come with standard starter kits are fine to use for dripping, many people add a drip tip to simplify adding the liquid.
Cartomizers have to be topped off fairly infrequently, last the equivalent of multiple cigs' worth of vaping time. I use one carto about four days, 24 ml of liquid (i am a moderately heavy vaper, and use high voltage equipment, which uses more liquid), then put it aside for cleaning or toss it out.
With your standard ego or riva battery, it has a common connector. You can use 510 tanks, or standard cartomizers, or atomizers - there is no "right" answer, different people like different things.