So frustrated, my coils are burning to fast.

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PoeticChaoss

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After priming/thoroughly saturating all exposed wicking material on a new/unused head, best to start low, take 3 -4 vapes, turn it up 2w - 4w take a few vapes, continue to gradually raise over about the first half tank or stop raising the power when you find what you like in vape quality.
During this process you may not get a satisfactory vape for the first dozen vapes up to a half tank, also you should see a few bubbles rise from the wicking holes.

Cotton candy pop rocks sounds like a very sweet liquid and could be the main problem with short head life.
If you meant 20% Pg / 80% Vg that might be too thick to wick quickly enough for the time you wait between vapes, take a couple vapes & let it sit for a few minutes to re saturate or try 30pg/70vg, 40pg/60vg which is thinner.


Which would you say is better, a .23ohm or a .4ohm I have no idea honestly what that means
 
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Which would you say is better, a .23ohm or a .4ohm I have no idea honestly what that means
Those numbers are the resistance of the wire part of the coil. The .4Ω is a cooler lower watt coil and should have a bit longer life. The .23Ω will be a little warmer vape at a higher wattage.
 

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Like I said everything is a matter of personal preferences.
Just me, I'd chose the .4Ω in that tank.
But, after years of experimentation I found I prefer above ohm airy MTL.
Usually I use .7Ω ~ 1.8Ω in an airy MTL tank with 50/50 clear non sweet liquids, uses less liquid, can be as cool or as warm as I like, between recharge cycle battery life is excellent, 5 pack of head is $9 - $12 & I get +/- 80 mls head life.

I'm old school, I think it is usually a mistake to start off with a mid-high watt DTL type set up. I believe it is a much easier transition to start with a MTL low watt set up with higher nic mg/ml.
Something similar to a nautilus mini or nautilus2 or any above ohm MTL tank, then you have an easy to use starting point to base what it is you want more of.
This sometimes prevents much of the frustrations,, which head, how to inhale, vapor too hot, why does it taste burnt etc..problems when just starting.
 
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Those numbers are the resistance of the wire part of the coil. The .4Ω is a cooler lower watt coil and should have a bit longer life. The .23Ω will be a little warmer vape at a higher wattage.

Ok so I dont like the heat on my throat so then I would go for the .4. I prefer the cool feeling.
 

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Like I said everything is a matter of personal preferences.
Just me, I'd chose the .4Ω in that tank.
But, after years of experimentation I found I prefer above ohm airy MTL.
Usually I use .7Ω ~ 1.8Ω in an airy MTL tank with 50/50 clear non sweet liquids, uses less liquid, can be as cool or as warm as I like, between recharge cycle battery life is excellent, 5 pack of head is $9 - $12 & I get +/- 80 mls head life.


Ok I will just keep trying different things until I find my favorite, but I am going to try what you said about the starting low and working my way up with a new coil. Thanks again for all the great advice.
 
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You don't need to thank me for the website, and you are so very right PC. I am awesome, & humble with it.
Oh and try adjusting the airflows on the tank for your preference too! I was so busy being awesome that I forgot to mention that. And....this is a help too. Ohms law.
 
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Like I said everything is a matter of personal preferences.
Just me, I'd chose the .4Ω in that tank.
But, after years of experimentation I found I prefer above ohm airy MTL.
Usually I use .7Ω ~ 1.8Ω in an airy MTL tank with 50/50 clear non sweet liquids, uses less liquid, can be as cool or as warm as I like, between recharge cycle battery life is excellent, 5 pack of head is $9 - $12 & I get +/- 80 mls head life.

I'm old school, I think it is usually a mistake to start off with a mid-high watt DTL type set up. I believe it is a much easier transition to start with a MTL low watt set up with higher nic mg/ml.
Something similar to a nautilus mini or nautilus2 or any above ohm MTL tank, then you have an easy to use starting point to base what it is you want more of.
This sometimes prevents much of the frustrations,, which head, how to inhale, vapor too hot, why does it taste burnt etc..problems when just starting.
I do agree with some of what you say but for myself I was completely frustrated by mtl and was about to give up vaping until I stumbled across dl and the Kanger STM. I always recommend the Kanger STM or Toptank to newbs. The most versatile af tanks imo and offers options to find a sweet spot draw wise with pretty much zero frustration either way you land. Have wondered if the Zenith will slide into that slot now.
 

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Thanks so much for the info, no one ever told me to start low and build up with each coil, I have been starting them out at the 48w that I usually go with. So how often should I raise the watts after putting the new one in, should I do a few hits every time I change the wattage before upping it again. As for the DTL and MTL I have been doing the DTL but thinking I may not be inhaling hard enough. The juice I bought was a brand called Pop Clouds and the flavor was a cotton candy pop rocks and yes it is a darker colored juice, it is see through but does have a brownish tint to it.

...given that this will be your issue. If I would kick off with my 100 Watt I usually vape at my coils are dead immediately, now they last 4 weeks! May the vape be with you :D
 
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I would promote the same advice, try lower wattage, see what works for you.

When I used a tank with coil heads (similar to yours), I'd start getting a slightly burnt taste after 2 days when I was chain vaping long draws. So I just took shorter puffs, and the coils would last 4 to 5 days, when I'd get a burnt taste even with a short puff, it was time to change the coil.

If you're not into clouds, you could try shorter draws with a higher nicotine concentration, you'd get your fix and burn through e-juice and coil heads slower. Note that less clouds will usually mean less flavor. BUT, you could also increase flavor by reducing the airflow (I don't know your tank but on virtually all of them, you have a stainless steel ring you can turn to open or close air holes). Mind the wattage as well when reducing airflow, as the vape will get warmer.

Try different airflow/wattage settings to find what you really like. Some (as myself) like clouds, some like flavor, some just want a nicotine fix. There's no right or wrong answer, only what works for you. If your current vape is what you really want, though, you will burn through coils quite fast, and I don't think there's something to do that will drastically improve your coil heads' life.

Budget is something I was also concerned with when I realised how fast I would ruin a coil head, and at this point I started considering rebuildable, though you may benefit some "regular" vape experience first. Do some reading and find out if this is something you could enjoy. You don't have to build your coils, it's just an option, but it's one hell of an economic option!

The other thing you can save money on is e-juice. Making your own is actually really easy, and you don't need experience to achieve it!
DIY e-juice costs much less than regular e-juice, and you get to chose the PG/VG ratio, with any flavoring you like (most e-juice are also available as flavorings for you to make your own).
You can ask about it at your local vape store, or browse the forum, there are tons or articles, more or less technical, from which you can learn all the basics. Most stores sell e-juice base, nicotine boosters, and flavorings, as well as graduated bottles for you to make accurate mixes.
 
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Ok so I dont like the heat on my throat so then I would go for the .4. I prefer the cool feeling.

The amount of heat is determined by the wattage you set on your mod, regardless of the ohm rating of the coil. You can get a similar vape (with regard to heat) from a .4 or .23 ohm coil.

Remember, the recommended wattage printed on the coil is just that - a recommendation. There is no reason you can't vape at a lower wattage for a cooler vape if it suits you better.
 

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Thanks so much for the info, no one ever told me to start low and build up with each coil, I have been starting them out at the 48w that I usually go with. So how often should I raise the watts after putting the new one in, should I do a few hits every time I change the wattage before upping it again.
This video is for another tank/coil setup, but the principles apply to ANY tank and coil.

 

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Yep, sounds like you have lots going on.

I would simply add, as you are able, perhaps trying different sorts of tanks at the very least (you can place a MTL tank on the mod you have, you'd just be turning down the wattage a LOT and MTL coils require coils to be broken in, as well) but a MTL topper like the Nautilus 2 can be purchased pretty inexpensively.

I did a fair amount of experimenting and I arrived here with a sub0hm setup that wasn't working well for me. I really found MTL vaping (higher resistance, less vapor per puff, etc.) to be far more satisfying-- for me.

You may find DL is your preference, but you will still be experimenting with coils and whatnot. Some folks prefer a more restricted draw, some folks prefer something in the middle, some folks prefer a lot of vapor and lower nicotine, etc. Some experimenting to find what you prefer (and what works best for you) may be an idea. At best, you'll be happier with your vape, at worst, well you'll know the setup you have is right for you (and you could always keep a backup vape if you don't love MTL, or use it as a stealth setup.)

Best of luck and welcome to ECF.

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Which would you say is better, a .23ohm or a .4ohm I have no idea honestly what that means

go with the .4 ohm. ( ohms are a measure of resistance) kinda like a water valve on a hose, the lower the number ( ohms) the more the valve is open letting more water thru... as more flows thru, it creates more "heat"...

I use the old school stuff ( I build my own coils) and usually make them 1.3 ohms and run them at 30Watts.

as far as the burnt nasty taste you are getting, too much heat (watts), not enuf juice flow to the wick, and button holding technique ( time on before puff, while puffing, and at the end of puff)... one can start the heating before puffing and then hold while inhaling and let off after the inhale, this produces alot of heat in the coil and it takes a few moments to cool off, but as it is "cooling off" it is cooking the juice in the wick... thus the nasty burnt taste.
 
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