So I go to watch bobsburgers at fox online... and the anti-e-cig ad pops up

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alicewonderland

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...every commercial is a e-cig ad which opens up with some candy/fruity tasties in a picture, then continues on to show young adults blowing clouds of vapor. I mean, I went to fox to watch Bob's Burgers which is a cartoon, and technically aimed at the younger crowd. Do they seriously think showing candy and clouds is a good idea? What a huge joke. Not to mention the site that it links to at the end of the ad just lists vague topics and negative effects that are either completely wrong or not even specific enough to where it could mean anything such as:

1. E-cig vapor can contain even more particles than tobacco (ok, It CAN contain, so does it or doesnt it? Also particles? Really? It contains particles? Everything contains particles and there are millions upon millions of things that contain more 'particles' than tobacco.)

2. vaping causes as much short term inflammation in your lungs as regular cigarettes, nicotine free vapor may cause even more. (short term inflammation? no specifics, nothing. And then nicotine-free vapor can cause even more? Lol. First they compare nicotine to an illegal hard-drug and how it is as addictive as it, then they say without the nicotine its even worse? Makes no sense.

3. The Irritation caused by breathing particles may cause an asthma attack. Read that sentence closely again, breathing in particles may cause an asthma attack. Not ecig particles, just particles, not any specific particles, just particles. So apparently all I read is "breathing in air or pesticides may cause an asthma attack"

4. Antibiotic resistant MRSA bacteria are harder to kill after being exposed to the particles in ecig vapor. another study found that ecig aerosol decreases immune system response and increase susceptibility of flu and pneumonia in mice. no link to any articles here.

5. even short term exposure to these little buggers can cause irritation of the throat and eyes give you a cough and make you feel dizzy. "these little buggers" they are referring to ecig vapor as a colony of little evil villains? dont understand this one

6. your ticker hates these particles too. they can cause constriction of the arteries that may lead to a heart attack. again with the 'particles', no specific statement of what type of particle or any links or lists of ingredients whatsoever.


amongst these vauge statements with no backup or evidence, they bring up formaldehyde, 'second hand vapor' , and 'thirdhand nicotine' being in your food at restaurants (THIRDHAND Nicotine, being in your FOOD, caused by vapers, :facepalm:). They also continue to bash big tobacco, and blaming big tobacco for ecigarettes. "there is a lot that the e-cig industry is not telling us" etc etc. IMO, theres a lot that this campaign/ad doesn't say, but what is scary is that its such a huge campaign and the commercial was aimed to strike fear into the unknowing and ignorant. If I was not informed and wasn't a person who can think for myself, I would probably be against ecigs after seeing it. I'd like to think the majority of people are smart people who can make their own judgements and not jump to conclusions due to scare tactics like these, but sadly I don't think that is true.

Again, this ad came up while I was watching a cartoon, on fox's website. LoL:laugh:
 
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Did formaldehyde get downplayed to incidental mention because they know that 'study' was thoroughly refuted?

Oh, an analogy that has probably been used before, but I have not seen here personally is that "A dry hit on an e-cig is roughly equivalent to lighting the wrong end of a filter tipped tobacco cigarette" And no one in their right mind would deliberately do this a second time.

Used this in my rebuttal when a coworker sent me the "e-cigs-have-10x-more-cancer-causing-..." article which is still being passed around on Face Book.
 

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I saw one on YouTube, it's pretty insane. I showed it to a few people and they didn't think it made sense either. But that's the point. They don't want to convert us back to cigs, they want to make sure the public continues to equate ecigs with cigs, so that when votes happen, they go in favor of bt. Also, maybe they'll scare adults away from quitting with ecigs because it works.
 

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Yea its working to people in Ca are already saying those are worse for you than cigs! When they see you vaping. Ive always had contempt for the people who have mismanaged CA in to the near bankrupt but now Im really starting to hate them!

I posted the add Robin mentioned on my face book and emailed it to everyone in my address book and asked them to forward to 10 people it or else they will have ugly children ;-)
 
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Yea its working to people in Ca are already saying those are worse for you than cigs! When they see you vaping. Ive always had contempt for the people who have mismanaged CA in to the near bankrupt but now Im really starting to hate them!

lots of people use the 'take with a grain of salt' phrase but i feel like the mass majority dont even have a clue what it means because hardly anyone puts it into practice
 

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yea screw ........ . I havent drank or done drugs in a long time other than nicotine . I use to get drunk , then I tried some more serious drugs , nothing addictive though. One day , I overdosed on {Moderated} and it was a nightmare which lasted 2 days and since then I realized that the only people who like to get drunk or do drugs are people who are stupid first of all and 2nd of all weak because they can not deal with problems or forget about things on their own or get a good laugh and have fun so they have to .... themself up with those poisons .
 
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