So I think I found a local source for PG and VG finally

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Cool BobTheKlown! I think we're going to need an assortment over time, but not all at once. I figure just ten at a time sounds good. I just got off the phone with the local pharmacy that compounds here in town and they have to call the warehouse to get a price on the PG for me but that tip might work out to be the best supplier for the PG for us. I am really pleased that the tech didn't even ask what I wanted to get it for either. BUT she recognized my voice....LOL!!!! That surprised me. I was like OMG now I really don't want you to ask me what it's for....LOL! :D
 

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from the description of PG where I bought mine (they sell mostly soap making stuffs): Propylene Glycol is the most common moisture carrying ingredient, other than water, used in cosmetics because it moisturizes better than glycerin. Is used as a wetting agent and surfactant which gives a product better absorption and promotes spreading of the product on the skin. Propylene Glycol is an emollient. Not to be confused with Ethyl Glycol which is used in anti-freeze and other chemical based products. It can penetrate the outermost layer of the skin cells and carry other beneficial products deeper into the epidermis. According to the AMA's committee on Cutaneous Health emollients do help make the skin feel softer and smoother, reduce roughness, cracking and irritation. And may possibly ...... the fine wrinkles of aging.
 

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Just wanted to drop in and let ya know that Cylinder and Boston Round Bottles with Dropper Caps | U.S. Plastic Corp. are some good bottles pretty cheap and you don't have to buy a hundred if you don't want. Just don't goof like me and order the wrong color LOL. I wanted natural (clear) but the kids yelling and dogs barking distracted me and I got the wrong ones (white)......(that's my story and I'm sticking to it :p )


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Thanks for the information on what PG is good for BobTheKlown! Thank you for sharing that, I can say I am trying to make a lotion and not sure if it's gonna work out for me so I want to get about 8 oz's. :)

I thought you had to order in bulk Mary? That's not the case eh? Huh....Have to take a second look at US plastics. Thanks! :D
 

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Wow, $13 for 420 ML, I think that will do nicely to get hubby through the rest of this year and then a bottle of $5 VG from CVS and we're set for awhile. So nice that they will order the PG for me, thanks again Hoosier for the suggestion on asking the local compounding pharmacy, seems like a good call. :D Will update on the DIY journey as we travel down the road to finding the right cigar mix. This forum is so helpful, I am glad it's here. Thanks all! :D
 

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Thanks for the information on what PG is good for BobTheKlown! Thank you for sharing that, I can say I am trying to make a lotion and not sure if it's gonna work out for me so I want to get about 8 oz's. :)

I thought you had to order in bulk Mary? That's not the case eh? Huh....Have to take a second look at US plastics. Thanks! :D

The first time I ordered from them I only ordered 20 of the 6ml bottles so I guess you don't LOL. Never paid much attention to their order min. but I guess if they do have one it would be at least as low as 20 :)


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Oh and if anyone needs any USP VG I have 3 gallons of the stuff. I don't want anything for it I just need to get rid of some because honestly I don't know how I will ever use 3 gallons when I use 30% at the most in my mixes....UGH! If I had only know they were in gallon size when I ordered LOL.



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The first time I ordered from them I only ordered 20 of the 6ml bottles so I guess you don't LOL. Never paid much attention to their order min. but I guess if they do have one it would be at least as low as 20 :)


Mary

That's cool, I'd have figured they would have had a big minimum order, great to hear it's not that way, Thanks Mary! :)

Oh and if anyone needs any USP VG I have 3 gallons of the stuff. I don't want anything for it I just need to get rid of some because honestly I don't know how I will ever use 3 gallons when I use 30% at the most in my mixes....UGH! If I had only know they were in gallon size when I ordered LOL.



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Have you thought about maybe doing Pay it Forward and offering some to someone who could use it? That's really nice of you to offer it to people, I am sure someone will gladly take you up on the offer if you posted about it there in PIF. :)
 

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Have you thought about maybe doing Pay it Forward and offering some to someone who could use it? That's really nice of you to offer it to people, I am sure someone will gladly take you up on the offer if you posted about it there in PIF. :)

I never even thought about that. It is a great idea thanks Pam :)


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There are 1 ml glass vials I use for designing flavors. That's plenty to drip and try out an idea. What prevents most people from doing that is that they are limited to droppers to measure out flavors, and 1 big drop is around 0.040 to 0.050 ml, or 5 %, not a very fine brush to work with. I personally think many people use too much flavoring, since we don't know how safe they are to inhale, it's safest to use as little as possible. If you get some insulin syringes with 32 gauge needles, they cost about $3 for 10, you get drops of about 0.0025 ml out of them, so it takes 4 droplets of flavoring to make 1%, which is more like it. They have some fine-tipped pipettes on e-Bay at $6 for 50 shipping included that make 0.012 ml drops. You can always calibrate a given dropper by counting droplets to make e.g. 1 ml. It's delicate cleaning off the needle/tip not to cross-contaminate flavorings, then pulling up just a hair from the next bottle, then pushing out these micro droplets, but well worth the trouble, since a lot of flavors make a big difference well below 1%. Once you have the percentages worked out, you can make a 3 ml bottle to try. Finally I make 10 ml ones to use, they are handy to carry.
 

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Have you thought about maybe doing Pay it Forward and offering some to someone who could use it? That's really nice of you to offer it to people, I am sure someone will gladly take you up on the offer if you posted about it there in PIF. :)

I was very insulted on a personal level my a PIF mod's comments about my home town/state recently, so I will not be reading that forum again... :mad:
The group seems like a good idea, but moderators insulting people based on the state they live in? I'll stick to forums with more respectful people...

but, Mary I am very interested in taking you up on some of that if you're really looking to get rid of some... :)

I was about to buy some VG online, and, being dirt poor, wasn't sure if I could afford it this week or if I had to wait till next payday...
PM me...

-=BoB=-
 

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Pam, thank you for your sympathy there, I have pushed the issue to a higher level now, so hopefully I'll see some resolution (apology?) soon and feel more comfortable joining that group... As I said, it seems like a really cool premise for a group, trading and helping each other... Just can't be a member if the mods are going to insult people based on their location... And you're right, I decided it was REALLY sad to deny myself and others the pleasure of my involvement based on one mods rude comments, that's why I've pushed this to a higher mod and am awaiting their response...

And it would be really cool if Mary could help me out, :) if not though, I'll figure something out. I've only got PG right now, and all my high nic liquid that's coming in this week will be 100% PG, and I've found about 20-30% VG seems to make the best vapor for me...
 

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For anyone in Clarksville, TN got PG at Town and Country drugs with no problem. Told the pharmacist what I wanted it for and he was very nice. also helped one of his employees with where to buy a replacement atty (she broke the bridge of hers that she got as a gift) for VG found unflavored wiltons at Pedigo hardware (they seem to sell more baking supplies than hardware) Hope that helps anyone in Clarksville
 
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