So I'm thinking about buying a lava tube.....

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They are all good they all work they all vape! If you want shiny the SS V tube is very nice. If you want cheep find the best deal. If you want dual carts get the 1.5 version Heres a link for a little clarification Lava Tube new old whats the diffrence? - YouTube
They aren't that big they look bigger on the internet. Id suggest the 18650 you can fit it in your pocket and way better battery life.
 

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To recommend a PV based solely on the amp limit of the switch is sort of like recommending a car based solely on its horsepower and disregarding a lot of other important factors like comfort, handling, reliability, amenities, etc.

To the OP, don't let this 2.5 vs. 3.5 vs. 4 amp switch cloud your judgment too much. It's a complete non-issue unless you want to use dual coil cartomizers. And nobody has yet been able to explain to me why I should WANT to use them when there are so many other choices available that work perfectly fine.

I agree with the other posters' recommendation of the VTube from Apollo. Use the 30% off coupon and get it cheaper from them than the vendor you linked, AND you will have a 1 year warranty from a reputable vendor.

And you are inferring that the handling of the Gripper or any model that does not provide the limitations of the Lavatube is some how inferior in "comfort, handling, reliability, amenities, etc." which is just plain BS. And you are also stating that because you either don't like dual coil cartomizers or can't use them on your limited model PV, then no one else will like them or should use them. Again, just plain BS, especially considering that there are thousands of vapers on ECF alone that prefer using dual coil cartomizers and who obviously don't agree with you. This is the kind of attack posts when someone points out a limitation of a particular device, that gets very old from a "fanboy".

The OP asked for "cons" and I provided him a definite con. He can make up his own mind of what is important to him, but not when a "fanboy" like you wants to limit the exchange of information and attack another members answer to the OP's request for complete information about the model he is considering.
 
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I do use dual coil carto's alot. I've seen some 3.0 lava tubes that have a 4 amp switch. Does anyone know what the amp limit is on the Vtube? I didn't see it listed on Apollo's site.

The one you linked to in your original post is only a 2.5 amp switch regulator. If it doesn't provide the amp limit on the site, then it most likely is no more than 2.5 amps. Models that provide 4 amp switch regulators seem to always make a point of letting the consumer know about it. There are quite a few posts of members using VV models like the Lavatube and trying to use 1.5 - 2.0 ohm dual coil cartomizers and asking for help on why their PV isn't working correctly.

If you can handle the cost of a model like the Silver Bullet ($84) with a Kick ($45), you would have one of the best models available and can use about any carto or atty you want:

http://altsmoke.com/starterkit/silverbulletusa/altsilverbullet.html

http://www.supertmanufacturing.com/id87.html

Good luck whatever you decide.
 
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To recommend a PV based solely on the amp limit of the switch is sort of like recommending a car based solely on its horsepower and disregarding a lot of other important factors like comfort, handling, reliability, amenities, etc.

To the OP, don't let this 2.5 vs. 3.5 vs. 4 amp switch cloud your judgment too much. It's a complete non-issue unless you want to use dual coil cartomizers. And nobody has yet been able to explain to me why I should WANT to use them when there are so many other choices available that work perfectly fine.

I agree with the other posters' recommendation of the VTube from Apollo. Use the 30% off coupon and get it cheaper from them than the vendor you linked, AND you will have a 1 year warranty from a reputable vendor.

I do use dual coil carto's alot. I've seen some 3.0 lava tubes that have a 4 amp switch. Does anyone know what the amp limit is on the Vtube? I didn't see it listed on Apollo's site.

Someone's so-called "judgement" is definitely clouded, LOL.
 

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I originally had a black lavatube, and I dropped it a few times. I popped off the bottom cap and the top cap and eventually ripped the wire off the board when i went to fix it.

I then ordered a SS lavatube from apollo, and I have to say it's the nicest commercial PV I have ever owned. I am totally in love with it and have had it almost two months. I do not use DCC's as I am a CE2 type user and could not be any happier. I normally vape 4-4.2V.

If you are dead set on having a black one for cheap, the cheapest I have seen is $29.99 here for just the tube.
 

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And you are inferring that the handling of the Gripper or any model that does not provide the limitations of the Lavatube is some how inferior in "comfort, handling, reliability, amenities, etc." which is just plain BS. And you are also stating that because you either don't like dual coil cartomizers or can't use them on your limited model PV, then no one else will like them or should use them. Again, just plain BS, especially considering that there are thousands of vapers on ECF alone that prefer using dual coil cartomizers and who obviously don't agree with you. This is the kind of attack posts when someone points out a limitation of a particular device, that gets very old from a "fanboy".

The OP asked for "cons" and I provided him a definite con. He can make up his own mind of what is important to him, but not when a "fanboy" like you wants to limit the exchange of information and attack another members answer to the OP's request for complete information about the model he is considering.

I'm not a fanboy of the lavatube at all. I regularly recommend other devices to people.

On the other hand, every response from you regarding the lavatube seems to focus on nothing except the 2.5amp limit. Using my example above, that's like bashing a particular car simply because its top speed is a little slower than some others even thought it may have other, more important, qualities that are better than the others.

There's an old saying that when your only tool is hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

My point is simply that there are OTHER things to consider when picking a PV besides the 2.5amp limit. I'm sure there are plenty of people who happily use dual coil cartomizers. But, as I said in my post above, nobody (including you) has been able to explain why I SHOULD be or would WANT to be using them. I'm getting a great vape without them, but I'm open minded so feel free to explain it to me.

As to the VV Gripper, it looks very interesting and I'd like to try one. But it's brand new (as far as I know) and I haven't had the chance. Have you? Or are you recommending something you've never tried and know nothing about? I've seen some comments about the fixed voltage version stating that the quality was not that great. I will want to know that the VV version is good quality before I'd recommend it.

Finally, and most importantly, I did NOT attack you. I disagreed with your post, and I posted a counter-argument. But that is far from an attack.
 

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I do use dual coil carto's alot. I've seen some 3.0 lava tubes that have a 4 amp switch. Does anyone know what the amp limit is on the Vtube? I didn't see it listed on Apollo's site.

I'm not a fanboy of the lavatube at all. I regularly recommend other devices to people.

On the other hand, every response from you regarding the lavatube seems to focus on nothing except the 2.5amp limit. Using my example above, that's like bashing a particular car simply because its top speed is a little slower than some others even thought it may have other, more important, qualities that are better than the others.

There's an old saying that when your only tool is hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

My point is simply that there are OTHER things to consider when picking a PV besides the 2.5amp limit. I'm sure there are plenty of people who happily use dual coil cartomizers. But, as I said in my post above, nobody (including you) has been able to explain why I SHOULD be or would WANT to be using them. I'm getting a great vape without them, but I'm open minded so feel free to explain it to me.

As to the VV Gripper, it looks very interesting and I'd like to try one. But it's brand new (as far as I know) and I haven't had the chance. Have you? Or are you recommending something you've never tried and know nothing about? I've seen some comments about the fixed voltage version stating that the quality was not that great. I will want to know that the VV version is good quality before I'd recommend it.

Finally, and most importantly, I did NOT attack you. I disagreed with your post, and I posted a counter-argument. But that is far from an attack.

Way to TOTALLY miss the point, along with missing that the OP DOES use dual coil cartomizers. And you are a "fanboy" when you do not provide a complete analysis of both the pros and cons of a particular model PV. You also "missed the point" that the OP specifically ASKED for "pros & cons". Instead you infer that anyone who uses dual coil cartomizers must have some problem because YOU can't see any value in using them. You simply do not help a person asking for a complete analysis of a PV model when you limit information and downplay a particular models short-comings. And for this particular OP's well structured question, that should be clear even to you.
 

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Yup they can use a 3.0 DC or better known as a 1.5. They run up to 4.5 volts before they will cut down.

oh well that's a heck of lot better than a lavatube then.

Also you guys that are going for each others' throats should read the rule section that you agreed to when you signed up for the ECF. It says "no personal attacks - attack the post, not the poster". Right under that rule is a nice section about trolling that would probably apply here too. You won't like Classwife when she's angry!

In short, be cool to one another. Jeez!
 
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Way to TOTALLY miss the point, along with missing that the OP DOES use dual coil cartomizers. . . .

I didn't miss the point at all. When I responsed to him, he had not stated that he used dual coil cartomizers. In fact, I was just responding to YOUR post where you, once again, bashed the lavatube because of the 2.5amp limit. I'll be glad when the new lavatube versions are widely available so I don't have to listen to that same, tired old song from you on every lavatube post.

And you are a "fanboy" when you do not provide a complete analysis of both the pros and cons of a particular model PV. You also "missed the point" that the OP specifically ASKED for "pros & cons".

Hmmmm. Does that make you a "fanboy" of the Gripper?? Did you give a "complete analysis" of the Gripper VV? No, of course not. You focused on one thing - the same thing - you always focus on. Sheesh. Go get a new axe to grind, for Pete's sake.

And did you give a "complete analysis" of the Lavatube? Nope. Of course, you ONLY pointed out the negative of the 2.5amp limit. Something about the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for that explanation of what I'm missing by not using dual coil cartomizers.

Finally, don't take this so personally. I did not personally attack you. I simply dared to disagree with you. This is not personal, and we are not determining the future of mankind here. We're talking about someone's choice of PVs. Jeebus.
 

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oh well that's a heck of lot better than a lavatube then.

Aye, I personally don't use a DC setup but figured if I did want to try it sometime I would be able to do so. There is still a limit but at least it is a pretty good limit imo. I couldn't see myself going above 4.5 volts on a DC, I think I'd burn the hell out of my throat...lol
 

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Aye, I personally don't use a DC setup but figured if I did want to try it sometime I would be able to do so. There is still a limit but at least it is a pretty good limit imo. I couldn't see myself going above 4.5 volts on a DC, I think I'd burn the hell out of my throat...lol

I would, too! :p

I have had my Apollo vtube a few weeks and I love it. I have the red but when I order another one, I'm going to get the SS or something thereabouts. The red one is plastic and cheap feeling, but it sure works great. And I got it for $50-something with the 30 percent off. Can't beat that. I consider it money well spent.
 

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Aye, I personally don't use a DC setup but figured if I did want to try it sometime I would be able to do so. There is still a limit but at least it is a pretty good limit imo. I couldn't see myself going above 4.5 volts on a DC, I think I'd burn the hell out of my throat...lol

Some people actively seek the "reckless throat hit". I might be one of them, I don't know yet. All I got is this KGO which is like life support. I'm saving up to switch over to an EGO Twist/Vivi Nova setup soon but I got bills to take care of first so my life basically sucks. The reason why I am going for Twist is size, they are easier to cart around than a flashlight sized PV. Plus I have noticed that a lot of people who have VV capability, especially on youtube, roll around with their VV set up to around 4 to 4.5v anyway. That's twist territory. According to the charts flying around here on ECF a 6v device requires resistances that I have never seen sold commercially, at least not commonly so. The most I have seen readily available is the 3.0 Ohm variety, 6v devices call for a 4.5ohm to 6.5 ohm to get in the sweet spot zone. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tutorials/260292-selecting-cartomizers-match-your-battery-temperature-preferences-excel.html See for yourself. That explains why most people hang just over four volts, at least from what I've seen in my own experience. I'm sure that, like I said before, there are those who want to push it in the red zone. The EGO Twist team must have done their homework and said "hey, they really only sell 3.0ohms so why not make a device that caps out on that, at 4.8v which is .05v into the redzone?". It makes sense to me anyway. Maybe I'm dumb or crazy, time will tell.
 
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I do use dual coil carto's alot. I've seen some 3.0 lava tubes that have a 4 amp switch. Does anyone know what the amp limit is on the Vtube? I didn't see it listed on Apollo's site.

To my understanding the amp of a battery is simply the milliamp hours divided by 1000. So an 1100mah battery is 1.1 amps for example. I don't know if that applies to a VV or not but I know for sure that it does for regular PVs. The main rating that really matters on a battery that you NEVER get the info for is the battery's "C Rating".

In any case, the Lavatube would be about the worst choice you could make for using Dual Coil Cartos since it will prevent you from vaping it past 3.7volts and you can do better than that with a KGO at 3.85v with a dually on it for way cheaper.
 
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Yo, misplaced. what kind of PV is that you got in your arms there in your avatar picture? That's a variable voltage model isn't it? What kind of batteries does it use? :)

its a 3 year old grand daughter mod,lol.. runs like the energizer bunny. i call her alyssa
 
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