So many choices, but I'm stumped.

[lexingtonff]

I'd really appreciate some help. Like so many others I don't have a ton of money to throw around and I really want a VV mod. I started vaping a little over two months ago and completely gave up my 2 pack a day analog habit, thank goodness. I tried patches, gums, welbutrin, chantix, all with little or no lasting success. I think PV's are the greatest things ever. I don't even want an analog any more.
Sorry, back to the point. I've been using an Ego 900mah, and the mega dual coil cartomizers from smok Tech, which I do like, they just aren't producing as much flavor as I would like. I was thinking along the lines of one of three devices.....Lavatube, Buzz Pro, or Provari. My budget is more in the Lavatube or Buzz pro range though. I've heard that some devices don't work so well with low resistance or dual coil so well though. I want something that will give me good battery life, handle low res carto's, and possibly dual coil. I might like a tank setup, but I haven't tried one yet, so I don't know. I'm not really worried about size, and color, mainly just good reliable performance. If the Provari is that much better than the others I could see holding out and saving a little more to buy it, if it's really worth the extra. I also like VG juices, is that going to effect what I should get? I'd really appreciate some opinions from you all with some experience with these devices. Because I am like a kid in a candy store who just see's to many yummy things he hasn't tasted before. Sorry so long winded, but I figured more info might narrow it down better.

 

[Butters78]

I wish the best of luck to you.. I personally reccomend American made.. I have a provari which is great. I am going to get a buzz pro as a back up and for 2nd flavors. Watch the videos of people using the VVs that you are interested in and see if you could picture yourself using them. Part of the hunt is part of the fun take your time and weigh the pros and cons. Please let us know what you decide.

 

[six]

Since you are using dual coils, this video will interest you. It is a comparison of the Buzz Pro vs Provari performance with dual coils.

 

[Butters78]

I still havent tried a dual coil yet lol..

 

[knivesout]

I wouldn't worry too much about having a device that handles LR cartos, you can get the same vape with standard cartos and save battery at the same time. Unless you really want to push some wattage, but I've found that for what I vape, higher than 8-9 watts seems to reduce flavor. Some people like vaping at higher voltages though, and for them something like the Buzz Pro would be the most trouble free, with the lavatube being the weakest choice. Try not to get too caught up in the price though if you can, I realize the BP and provari are expensive, but when you look at the cost of 2 packs a day I imagine either mod would pay for itself fairly quickly.

If you decide using dual coils is important to you, the lavatube probably isn't the best choice. From what I've seen though, and my limited experience, dual coils are aren't anything special (although some really seem to enjoy them). By the way, I don't think the device you're using isn't pushing enough voltage to really give a good vape with dual coils, I'd recommend getting some 1.7 or 2.0 ohm cartos. That will get you much closer to what a single coil SR carto is like around 4.8v on a VV mod, which seems to be roughly where most people's sweet spot is. If you like that kind of vape as opposed to the dual coils, then just think about whether you want to buy a mod once and be done with it. Nothing is guaranteed to be 100% trouble free, but you'll be much more likely to get a truly consistent experience through the longer lifetime of your mod with the Buzz or Provari. I haven't seen or used a buzz pro myself, although it seems like a great mod many are happy with. *As a disclaimer, I am a very pleased owner of a Provari, it does what I need it to do perfectly.

 

[six]

I still havent tried a dual coil yet lol..

Sorry. I should have quoted -- the OP mentioned using ego mega dual coils. I'm making a bit of an assumption that lexingtonff might continue with standard dual coils once they have a VV mod in hand

If I were to recommend something based solely on the flavor requirement lexingtonff is looking for (which is probably what I should have done), I actually feel compelled to mention the hh.357 atomizer from avid vaper and the i06 atomizer from ikenvape... and also suggest that looking at a VV feeder might be in order, too.

In my opinion, the hh.357 atty is the best flavor producer to be found (the i06 is darn good too). Put it on a VV feeder, and you have a flavor machine that's easy to operate and requires very little but occasionally filling a bottle and charging the batts.

 

[Butters78]

Six I was just saying that at random lol had nothing to do with what you said boss! I need to try dual coil though one of these days. I've been stuck on boge 3's cause they work.. ha

 

[six]

Six I was just saying that at random lol had nothing to do with what you said boss! I need to try dual coil though one of these days. I've been stuck on boge 3's cause they work.. ha

I'm really fond of the boge cartos. I keep a stock of 1.8, 2.0, 2.8, and 3.0 ohm boge (and I have a few boxes that were sold to me as 3.2 ohm.. but they meter all over the place from 2.6 to 3.4). I'm also really fond of the 1.5 ohm dual coils... but not so fond of the 1.25s, 2.0s, or 2.5s. I've used about 75 of the 1.5s since they came out on my 5.0v regulated mods.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

If you can wait there is an improved Lavatube coming from what I'm reading thew last couple days it will be a version 3 (previously people here were calling it V2)..it should be showing up around mid-the end of May..it's supposed to have at least a 3a limit maybe 3.5a and might have a way better screen.

Also for the prices now of Lavatubes you might just want to buy one because I've seen them as low as $40 for a kit as they must be trying to sell off before the new version comes.

Anyways these boosted circuit VV devices work best on regular OHM atomizers/cartomizers over LR and LR dual coils. If you like really high voltage/amperage stacked batteries are the best way to go as you can double the AMP rating of the batteries by stacking.

Plus they can make a VV with a step down regulator not losing as much amperage. When they boost they have to take into account the higher AMP drain of boosting the volts.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Never used a Buzz, but I have a Lavatube and a Provari. The LT works great for what it is: a less expensive VV mod that handles any 510 accessories and uses big batts (I use 3100mAH). The Provari on the other hand costs quite a bit more, has all of the features of the LT plus all the features the LT is missing. It's also a real work of craftsmanship (the build qualities are not even comparable - think Chevette vs. Corvette) and precision electronics on the Provari are exceptional (what you set is what you get throughout the life of the battery charge). One of the best features of the Provari (and it is supposed to show up in the next gen LT) is the built in ohm meter. I don't even sort all my kit any more since I just look at the resistance and adjust the voltage to match up to 8-10 watts and then fine tune during the vape.

For fullest flavor, dripping is the way to go. I'm loving my Cisco 306/1.8ohm@4.2v. I've never used a bottomfeeder, but am becoming interested if that's the level of vapor/flavor/TH you get all day. Only problem for me is that I haven't seen one yet that "pulled" to me.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

...think Chevette vs. Corvette...

IDK I think a better analogy would be Corvette vs Camero..the VV eGo would be more Chevette like..my friend had one it went 70mph top speed lol. In my opinion the Provari is missing options too like not having +/- buttons. The V2 Provari does have an OHM meter, a slightly better display (both look like something out of the 80's), a higher AMP limit and better finish. But it also costs about 4x as much.

They both vary the voltage..the new LT that is coming is supposed to have a better display, higher AMP limit, be able to read the OHM's and have an option for a better finish maybe even stainless with an eGo connection. I'm sure the new LT version will come out at less than half the price if not less and will drop even lower in a few months.

 

[lexingtonff]

Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate all the input. After much deliberation I thinknim going to wait a little longer and go with the Provari. I figuired if you can't even find someone to give it a decent criticism besides the price then maybe it's worth that price. Thank you all.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate all the input. After much deliberation I thinknim going to wait a little longer and go with the Provari. I figuired if you can't even find someone to give it a decent criticism besides the price then maybe it's worth that price. Thank you all.

IDK one of the reasons I'll probably never buy a Provari is the 1 button setup where you have to press the button 5x to bring up a menu then scroll through it with the same 1 button then select voltage up or down to change the voltage. You have to wait a couple seconds before you can change the voltage..then if you want to change it again you have to do it again.

I prefer to have +/- buttons to change the voltage and the LT I own has it..Also it was about 1/4 the price does everything I need it for and am very happy with my purchase. In fact I plan on buying another sometime after the newer version comes out around the end of May..so if you don't mind the 1 button to use all the functions paying around 4x as much or waiting to do things you will be happy.

 

[knivesout]

It's just funny (and I know I've said it before), because I've never heard complaints about button presses from people who own or have used a provari.

Personally, I don't need to fiddle around with it too much, especially since there's no need to worry about what voltage the device is actually providing, it's perfectly consistent. I do like to tweak the voltages a bit throughout the day, but it takes seconds, and is hardly some arduous process. I'd rather have one solid button than have two extraneous (IMHO) ones (that aren't properly seated and rattle around from what I've seen/read). As with a lot of other things, you get what you pay for.

One of the nice things about the industry though, is that there's a lot of choice. Everyone has their preferences and that's fine. But to knock a device for something I've never seen an owner of it complain about seems like a bit of a stretch. Although I give you credit for prefacing it by saying it's your opinion. It's just my opinion that it's a weak thing to knock it for. Price? I get it. But again, not something I've seen people who own it complain or express regrets about.

lexingtonff - I think you'll be really happy with the provari, it'll serve you well for quite some time.

 

[six]

One of the nice things about the industry though, is that there's a lot of choice. Everyone has their preferences and that's fine. But to knock a device for something I've never seen an owner of it complain about seems like a bit of a stretch. .

One of my buddies has one. He complains about the buttons all the time. But, you'd literally have to knock him out to get it out of his hand. The only thing I know got it away from him once was a really big, angry moose.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

...But to knock a device for something I've never seen an owner of it complain about seems like a bit of a stretch. Although I give you credit for prefacing it by saying it's your opinion. It's just my opinion that it's a weak thing to knock it for. Price? I get it. But again, not something I've seen people who own it complain or express regrets about...

I've seen a few videos and posts where a Provari owner said the button pressing is an issue..also a quite a few about the price or people thinking of buying a VV Tube about the price of it too. Some people even sell theirs. I've seen a couple comments about crooked connectors too..although most likely a lot of the crooked connectors on devices might not be the connector itself but because the pin sticks up and the cartomizer/atomizer doesn't seat down on it completely.

I stated it was just my opinion but isn't whatever anyone posts just their opinion?..yes it is. There are a lot of happy Provari owners out there and a lot of happy LT owners for how many are produced..I'm sure there are 5x the LT's out there as Provari's too because they are so inexpensive.

If you don't change voltages much I can see the button not being much of an issue..but even if it was perfect voltage I would change the voltage quite a bit between cold or warm-hot cartomizers and different flavors..I run a lot of different voltages when using my VV...

 

[markfm]

For good price/performance, if you don't particularly care about an LCD, the notcigs Pro series (Infinity or Buzz) is solid. They hold the voltage (don't sag), easily adjusted output of 3.3 - 5.5V, 15W limit (1.5 ohm dual coils to a bit over 4.7V).

The new Provari V2 regulator brings it closer to notcigs Pro level, from an output standpoint, though Provari V2 does offer lower minimum and higher maximum voltages (Provari V1 had the same lower voltage as notcigs Pro). Per Provari's data (http://www.provape.com/v/images/ProVariV1vsV2.pdf), the original V1 regulator had a 2.5 amp hard limit, which restricted power output depending on the voltage. V2 goes to a maximum of 3.5A or 14.5W, with one outlier data point at 4.2V.

With Provari, to get the same run time as a notcigs Pro you need the extender cap and 18650 batteries, based on what I've read (though I don't own a Provari, I have tried to keep up on the tech). This is not a bad thing, by any means.

I'd put Provari and the notcigs Pro series in the same class in terms of excellent performance, build quality, ruggedness, customer service. If you want/like an LCD, Provari. If you prefer simple user interface, notcigs Pro. Either I'd put above the various LT.

Edit: Just saw you chose Provari -- good choice, many happy users

 

[retird]

Excellent choice....... high technology, excellent warranty, great customer service, excellent safety features, single battery (boost technology), and the ProVari can be adjusted from 2.9 - 6.0 volts in 0.1 volt increments. Enjoy.....

Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate all the input. After much deliberation I thinknim going to wait a little longer and go with the Provari. I figuired if you can't even find someone to give it a decent criticism besides the price then maybe it's worth that price. Thank you all.