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markyj987

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I came across a thread that discussed the different types of vapers...it started with the premise that there were several different types:

1) Those who have smoked cigarettes for a long time and wish to quit. They look to this 'new technology' to aid them in their quest.

2) Someone simply looking for an alternative to cigarettes. No real intention to quit, they simply want something different, more flavorful, and POSSIBLY more socially acceptable.

3) Someone looking to a PV as a new lifestyle. This personality is likely going to go balls-to-the-wall and will want for more power, more vapor, and the latest cool gadget.

I bought my M401 last month and guess I don't fit any of these categories perfectly. I don't care if it looks like a cigarette, looks cool, or whatever--it has to deliver vapor, nicotine, and work consistently.

First, About my 401:
When it works--it REALLY works. Using the USB PCC, it's awesome. Using the batteries, it's hit or miss regardless of the charge. What I don't like is that I need to top off frequently (I smoked 1-1 1/4 packs of analogs a day). In addition, I have a new annoyance--when using the battery, I consistently end up with a bunch of liquid in my mouth. I can't STAND it and was so frustrated I'm picking up analogs.

Here's what I want:
  • Good vapor production
  • An atomizer that will last more than a few weeks (not sure if this even exists)
  • A cart that's big enough to refill easily--not needing to use a bent paper clip or syringe to refill it would be great. I hate the tiny piece inside the cart that needs to be popped out. I feel like I spend more time refilling carts than vaping sometimes!
  • A battery that performs consistently--both of my batteries are new, but only one works every time I use it.
  • Something easy to use and that can be used one-handed--I won't be dripping.
Any suggestions on the right fit for me?
 

vapordad

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for the standard ecig, I would suggest a 510. I would use Pyramid Tea Bag filler in the carts, and I would get at least 4 batteries.

Others will tell you to go to a big boy. I am just getting around to getting one, so I cannot comment, but for consistency, you could research the screwdriver as it has a longer lasting battery. Keep on reading. lots out here.
 

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Janty Stick because;

1. You can use the 801 cartridge and they are bigger than most of the others carts.

2. Your battery charges through the USB port as you are vaping it.

3. The battery life is much longer than the smaller types.

4. My atty has lasted since end of July and still going strong.

5. You get the little "holster" to clip to your belt or pocket that carries you JS, a spare battery and a cartridge or sm ml bottle of refill smokejuice.

Can you tell I love my Janty Stick?
 
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wv2win

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Change the name but same complaint from what seems like hundreds of people on those tiny devices like the 401 with the auto batteries. As someone else mentioned, move to the devices that are hassle free and get one of the premieres:

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wv2win

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My cousin built a mod that gives a GREAT hit. Check it out. His page is at the bottom of the vendors list. Great Lakes Vapor .com if you want to go directly to his website. I've used this device and it is everything I wish my 901 was by itself.

That looks like an interesting device. I hope he does well with it.:)
 

Jim Davis

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In addition, I have a new annoyance--when using the battery, I consistently end up with a bunch of liquid in my mouth. I can't STAND it and was so frustrated I'm picking up analogs.

Here's what I want:
  • Good vapor production
  • An atomizer that will last more than a few weeks (not sure if this even exists)
  • A cart that's big enough to refill easily--not needing to use a bent paper clip or syringe to refill it would be great. I hate the tiny piece inside the cart that needs to be popped out. I feel like I spend more time refilling carts than vaping sometimes!
  • A battery that performs consistently--both of my batteries are new, but only one works every time I use it.
  • Something easy to use and that can be used one-handed--I won't be dripping.
Any suggestions on the right fit for me?

I won't tell you what to buy, but I'll give you some suggestions. If you learn to use what you have, and get the vaping process right, you can make a better choice to keep your e-cig or move on to something else.

Juice in your mouth.
I hear complaints with most models about this. It's usually a matter of too much juice and/or drawing too hard. E-cigs are not like stinkies. It takes a bit of learning the technique. Experiment with your technique.

Atomizers.
Attys will burn out if too dry or if running too hot. Juice that is too thin, may be at fault too. I have 3 models I use regularly (401 / 4081 / 510) I have yet to burn out an atty on any of them after 6 months.

Cartridges;
Read & research on cart sizes. no matter what you decide on, they will still have to be filled. I would rather refill often if I get good results.

Batteries;
You'll have to try them yourself. What is best for you can only be chosen by you. When your auto batteries go bad, try a manual, compare the good and the bad about each.

Easy to use;
As soon as you master your technique, you'll know what is easiest for you without anyone having to tell you.

It's a learning process, and it will take some time. If you need help, there are many who will be here. If you decide to scrap your 401 and get something else, it's your choice, but you'll have to go through the learning curve with any model you decide on.

Don't give up. It only gets better.

The above comments are only my personal opinion.

Cheers;
jd
 
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