So overwhelmed...advice please

[Pod_Vaper]

I started vaping about 5 months ago using drug store disposable e-cigs. I quickly "graduated" to 808 e-cigs with prefilled carts, but realized quickly that wasn't cutting it either. So I've stuck solely with pod devices for simplicity, convenience, and because, frankly, they're pretty dummy proof. I've tried 4 so far, but I'm running into issues with burnt pods, failing devices, and flavor issues. Despite my earlier protests about upgrading beyond e-cigs for stealth, I'm now looking into buying a mod for here at home. Something small and simple. And then saving my stealthy little pod systems for when I go out.

I've been trying to research, but I'm just on overload. I'm thinking of buying the eleaf Pico 75w with Melo 3 mini tank, but I have absolutely NO CLUE what battery to even start with it. I'll learn about wattage and such as I go, but how do I even get started safely?

Thanks for your help and patience with this dummy!

 

[stols001]

Moving to a mod can seem difficult but keeping to basic safety principles will help you. What is going to matter safety wise is that you have the right type of battery for your wattage settings. For example, if you vape lower watts, you can go with a battery with a lower rating, but more mAhs, for longer run time. I vape at low wattages and use Samsung 25's, they are plenty for my needs and I get more run time. If you want higher wattages on a single battery mod, well, then probably a higher rated Sony battery would be best for your needs. You also want to get two of them, so you can switch them out as you charge the other on an external charger. The good thing is batteries are inexpensive, and chargers as well.

To start learning about safety, I recommend this blog: Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

You will find an updated battery chart listing the specs of each battery and their various ratings, as well as some information on batteries generally.

My guess is even with a single battery mod, if you are running it at low to medium wattage a Samsung or an LG may work well for your needs. If you are looking for something in the 50--100 watt range you would do better with a higher rated battery and possibly a two battery mod. But my guess is you won't be falling in that ballpark, I don't think.

Best of luck, welcome to ECF, and keep asking questions until it all becomes clear.

Anna

 

[Letitia]

I started vaping about 5 months ago using drug store disposable e-cigs. I quickly "graduated" to 808 e-cigs with prefilled carts, but realized quickly that wasn't cutting it either. So I've stuck solely with pod devices for simplicity, convenience, and because, frankly, they're pretty dummy proof. I've tried 4 so far, but I'm running into issues with burnt pods, failing devices, and flavor issues. Despite my earlier protests about upgrading beyond e-cigs for stealth, I'm now looking into buying a mod for here at home. Something small and simple. And then saving my stealthy little pod systems for when I go out.

I've been trying to research, but I'm just on overload. I'm thinking of buying the Eleaf Pico 75w with Melo 3 mini tank, but I have absolutely NO CLUE what battery to even start with it. I'll learn about wattage and such as I go, but how do I even get started safely?

Thanks for your help and patience with this dummy!

You are not a dummy, just a new vaper. The info and products available is overwhelming. Personally I would order the Pico 25/Ello kit for future versatility.

 

[Beamslider]

It's a single battery mod. So what battery you want depends on how much wattage you want to use with it even though it is a regulated mod making it safer.

To keep from stressing the batteries, you need one of the batteries on Mooch's chart 18650 that is rated for 20 Amps if you are going to use it at 50 watts or below. You need one rated at 25 to 30 Amps from that chart if you are going to vape above 50 watts on that mod. The trade off is that the higher the AMP, the lower the MAH on the batteries so less run time on higher AMP.

There is no real benefit to going high wattage unless you are a cloud chaser and then a single battery mod would not be your best thing to use anyway for that.

 

[Beamslider]

There is a newer model PICO that takes 21700 batteries with the Melo Tank for around $60. It also takes 18650 batteries with a tube adapter included.

iStick Pico 21700 with ELLO - Eleaf electronic cigarette

 

[PapawBrett]

Welcome to the ECF. The Pico is a nice little mod, you should do well with that.
The next question is - your smoking / vaping style. Do you draw in with your mouth then inhale (Mouth To Lung, or MTL) or do you draw directly into your lungs (DL) ? Many smokers never thought about such things, they just lit up and smoked. But Vaping gear is a little different, you method will direct you to equipment better suited for your own personal needs.
Good Luck on your Journey.

 

[Pod_Vaper]

I'm looking at this particular device for 2 reasons - price and looks. I know neither of those should be a factor. LOL I've seen the Pico 25 recommended quite a bit, so I looked at that and then saw the resin unit.

I'm definitely a MTL vaper and will more than likely use very low wattage since that's what most pod systems are and that's what I'm actually pretty comfortable with. I don't really plan on upgrading again since this is just for home use.

 

[Beamslider]

The Pico 25's only real advantage is it takes tanks up to 25 mm in diameter while the regular pico only takes 22 maybe 23 mm. The 21700 pico also takes 25 mm tanks and can have longer battery life with a 21700 battery.

The pico's are great long lasting mods. Very sturdy too.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hello and welcome to ecf.

Here is the pico 75 w kit for under $25.00 and a US vendor in CA
Eleaf iStick Pico 75W TC w/ Melo 3 Tank

use code vapecrawler for an additional 10% off

 

[Letitia]

I'm looking at this particular device for 2 reasons - price and looks. I know neither of those should be a factor. LOL I've seen the Pico 25 recommended quite a bit, so I looked at that and then saw the resin unit.

I'm definitely a MTL vaper and will more than likely use very low wattage since that's what most pod systems are and that's what I'm actually pretty comfortable with. I don't really plan on upgrading again since this is just for home use.

In that case I would recommend you order the Pico mod only and a separate mtl tank with drop in coils.

 

[Beamslider]

We have all been there. Not planning on upgrading that is.

 

[Pod_Vaper]

Hello and welcome to ecf.

Here is the pico 75 w kit for under $25.00 and a US vendor in CA
Eleaf iStick Pico 75W TC w/ Melo 3 Tank

use code vapecrawler for an additional 10% off

Awesome price! But they are out of stock. Thanks for the heads up, though!

In that case I would recommend you order the Pico mod only and a separate mtl tank with drop in coils.

Thanks Letitia! I considered that, but being such a newbie, I figured it was easier to go with the kit than to try to figure out compatibility. Although it comes with two sub-ohm coils, I did find 1.0 ohm coils which I hope will be just right for MTL.

 

[Letitia]

Awesome price! But they are out of stock. Thanks for the heads up, though!




Thanks Letitia! I considered that, but being such a newbie, I figured it was easier to go with the kit than to try to figure out compatibility. Although it comes with two sub-ohm coils, I did find 1.0 ohm coils which I hope will be just right for MTL.

Compatibility is not an issue. The 510 connection is so common now. If you are a dedicated mtl vaper you will be happier with a dedicated mtl tank. Either route you choose I wish you happy vaping!

 

[Eskie]

As far as batteries for your new Pico here's a table of recommended 18650 and 20X batteries for it from our battery guru Mooch

 

[Baditude]

being such a newbie, I figured it was easier to go with the kit than to try to figure out compatibility. Although it comes with two sub-ohm coils, I did find 1.0 ohm coils which I hope will be just right for MTL.

Mod makers often include a tank to be able to call it a starter kit. Makes consumers believe they are getting more for their money. Truth be told, that doesn't mean the tank will be the right tank for your style of vaping, and doesn't mean it will be a quality tank.

As a relatively "new" vaper, a true Mouth-to-Lung tank with higher ohm coils (above 1.0 ohm) would be to your advantage. I'd suggest an Aspire Nautilus. It's a proven tank, popular, with coils available from almost anywhere, and competitively priced.

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Concerning batteries, the Samsung 30Q 3000mAh 15A battery, Sony VTC6 3000mAh 15A, or LG HG2 3000mAh 20A batteries will have more than enough power and use per charge for the Pico.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Here is one that is mod only -all black....

Eleaf iStick Pico 75W TC Body Only - Full Black



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they also have a forum here at ecf.

DiscountVapers

 

[PapawBrett]

A Pico with a Nautilus might be the way to go. Try here, but be patient. Authentic gear at reasonable prices, but the shipping is slow...

GearBest: Online Shopping - Best Gear at Best Prices

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

A Pico with a Nautilus might be the way to go. Try here, but be patient. Authentic gear at reasonable prices, but the shipping is slow...

GearBest: Online Shopping - Best Gear at Best Prices

China's New year starts very soon and last for 10 days. That means nothing is coming from China for that time period. Prices may be a little better but this time of year is painfully slow. Who wants to wait a month or longer for a product when for around $3 more you can get it in US?

 

[PapawBrett]

I am not Chinese, so I don't pay much attention to their calendar. My Bad

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. +1 on the Pico/Nauti comobo. It's a good place to start. With a Nautilus, you won't be vaping above 15 watts maximum, so any quality 20A vaping battery will do nicely. The Samsung 30Q is well thought of and has good life, especially at that low a wattage.