So what is so great about these "hybrid" mods?

[Arnie H]

I've read a lot lately about hybrid mods and watched a Pbusardo video on one. The one he reviewed apparently had a proprietary connection, so you couldn't use 510/Ego threaded stuff with it.

Can someone help clue me in.

Why choose a hybrid mod over other types of mods?

What are the benefits? The Pro's and Con's?

Thanks.

 

[SFBrianT]

bump. Because I wanna know too.

 

[Vedra]

Cool factor. Serialized releases. The way I see it is that aside from those two traits, any effective innovation will be quickly adopted to 510 style gear in short order.

 

[jayD]

They are great because the battery makes direct contact with the positive post on the atty,and when assembled have the impression of being a single piece rather than 2 pieces screwed together, they are not great because they aren't versatile unless they share a common threading with another hybrid.

 

[Steam Turbine]

What jayD said is correct.

A hybrid is a “one piece” mechanical device (I know of only one variable v/w hybrid The Orion vv).

They are usually (but not exclusively) a genesis style atomizer + battery tube combined, meaning that the atty is not meant to (and often can’t) be disconnected from the rest of the unit.

Since it has no 510 connector in between the atty and the battery, it makes for a nice and compact form factor and the connection is sturdier since the threads (when available) covers the whole circumference of the battery tube instead of the small cig a like 510 connection.

They are mostly enthusiasts and collectors device since they don’t come cheap… Although this is starting to change.

 

[Arnie H]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not a rich man, so I will wait till they come down in price, if I ever do get one.

 

[Thrasher]

what the others said, if you know you like that kind of atomizer, cool a hybrid design makes everything efficient energy wise.

there are now some of the newer hybrid type designs coming with replaceable end caps so you can turn them into just standard mechs and atty's.
but for the well known hybrids dont wait for a price drop as they cant make them fast enough even at current prices.

 

[SissySpike]

Its designed to do one thing well not everything ok. With the exception of a few models hybrids are unregulated. You have better conductivity with a hybrid over a 510 connection.

The very thing that makes a mod versatile also takes away from its performance to a degree. I think you have to be an advanced user to notice the difference.

To me this is more of the hobbyist vapor vs the guy just grabbing a octopus or a aga and being good.
As with anything high performance they are not geared for the everyday user.

Most likely if you think its a waist of money to do what you can do for lots less money you are right they are not for you.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I appreciate the beauty of the designs, but for me, vaping had to be a cost effective way of quitting smoking. I currently have seven effective setups, all eGo/510 and all interchangeable. I have less invested in the whole collection than I would spend on one decent mod.

Again, they're beautiful and their users love them. But my route on the VapeQuest Path does not lead there.

 

[SissySpike]

I appreciate the beauty of the designs, but for me, vaping had to be a cost effective way of quitting smoking. I currently have seven effective setups, all eGo/510 and all interchangeable. I have less invested in the whole collection than I would spend on one decent mod.

Again, they're beautiful and their users love them. But my route on the VapeQuest Path does not lead there.

Hybrids really are not the norm. Take one to most any vape shop and everyone there is looking at you like you have a alien device in your hand.
Lots of us on here are OCD vapors so it seems like what we do is normal but thats because we've surrounded our selves with like minded people.
There are shops that have these products but the majority of vapors use egos and clearos and think spending 200$ on a mod is silly. When I tell people at work my Provari Ithaka set up my everyday vape is going to run them 400$ I get the same look each and every time;-)
I thought the same when I started I dont think its a right or wrong answer more like what are you in to and what you feel is worth spending money on.

 

[Thrasher]

lol know the feeling, people ask about my set up provari with cobra or kayfun i get the same looks. went into a vape shop around here (what a joke) and they passed around my rig to each other for like 15 minutes ooo ing and ahhh ing over it.

no clue what a provari was(its like a lavatube right?) i said yea sure. lol i could only imagine these people being shown a hybrid and saying yea it costs XXXX

 

[Thrasher]

it really is for a select few, you really like a genesis on a mech? then get one built for maximum efficiency. other then that its all cool factor.


(dang thought i hit the edit button) .....................

 

[SissySpike]

lol know the feeling, people ask about my set up provari with cobra or kayfun i get the same looks. went into a vape shop around here (what a joke) and they passed around my rig to each other for like 15 minutes ooo ing and ahhh ing over it.

no clue what a provari was(its like a lavatube right?) i said yea sure. lol i could only imagine these people being shown a hybrid and saying yea it costs XXXX

I take my Orion or Iakrus to vape shops I enjoy handing it to someone and when they ask how much I tell the 250$ they immediately hand it back very carefully;-)

 

[SlowDripOblivion]

As most have said, it is really a matter of preference. I mean, I started out rebuilding from the get-go so I didn't know about cartos and whatnot. I think that the initial rush into rebuilding also did not expose my slight irritation/allergic reaction to PG and with dripping, that is exacerbated to the Nth degree since I do also run 3 to 6mgs on my mods. That's when I got the recommendation to try a hybrid device and picked up a Noble 1. After much consideration--and a decision to really step away from the cloud chasing that got me to quit analogs as a whole, I purchased the hybrid device. I have had it for nearly 3 weeks and I thoroughly enjoy it. I have bored out a 3/32nd air hole and did some other slight modifications to it (ran a 500 grade ss wick instead of the 400 in which they recommend--if you do this, pay attention to your bakaro/kenthal wire spacing because it will pop with ease...) and it hits and produces like my RBAs and without the agitation that I get from drips. I have set my sights on a turbine or even a mister or steamboy because of my affinity to hybrids and that these atomizers give you the best of the genesis type tanks and it can be included on your mod of choice.

 

[Zedd]

You see, the direct connection of the blah blah blah to your blah blah blah makes it look smaller and nicer and thus makes your vapor more efficient and taste better somehow.. So it's worth 400$. It's really for a more refined vaper so I doubt you'll understand.

I realize I'm an ..... but with all the explanations I just haven't heard anything suggesting WHY they are so expensive

edit: Ok cool factor.. I get it.

 

[AttyPops]

You see, the direct connection of the blah blah blah to your blah blah blah makes it look smaller and nicer and thus makes your vapor more efficient and taste better somehow.. So it's worth 400$. It's really for a more refined vaper so I doubt you'll understand.

I realize I'm an ..... but with all the explanations I just haven't heard anything suggesting WHY they are so expensive

edit: Ok cool factor.. I get it.

I'm a donkey² because I don't even get the 'cool factor'.

<Insert P.T. Barnum quote here>

All it does is reduce my options, as far as I can tell, and gives me .1 ohms difference if I'm lucky.

 

[SissySpike]

You see, the direct connection of the blah blah blah to your blah blah blah makes it look smaller and nicer and thus makes your vapor more efficient and taste better somehow.. So it's worth 400$. It's really for a more refined vaper so I doubt you'll understand.

I realize I'm an ..... but with all the explanations I just haven't heard anything suggesting WHY they are so expensive
Collector stuff.

edit: Ok cool factor.. I get it.

I did not see that the OP asked about the price. If your asking about the price you dont have to be an ... All you have to do is bring it up. The only Hybrids I know of in the 400$ range are collectors editions just like a collectors Henry repeating riffle we all know its the same thing as the production one but some people are willing to pay big bucks for the collector stuff.

I can 100% agree the resale of some of this stuff it just plane out silly and sooner or later people will see its silly what they are paying for a used 50$ chunk of SS
So the Average price of a Hybrid is 200$ Im betting the Modders is only making 75 dollars of that per unit on average. Yea this is a great Mark up but most of them are only selling a few per month. Its a limited market.

Now I would venture to say the Chinese Manufacturer is making a much bigger profit selling low cost disposable low grade crap that allot of people buy.
SO fool is only 1 letter away from cool Ill buy my 200$ Mod take care of it and have it for years to come and be cool. The foolish people can buy the cheap disposable crap and keep on buying and buying and buying.

None of the rules apply to me as Im a collector so there is nothing practical or justifiable about my collection I just like doing it no other explanation needed.

The smart Vapor can spend lets say 500$ on a couple of good mods and attys including supplies and come out ahead in the long run. Plus theres allot to be said about being self sufficient. No more worrying about your favorite Cart or clearo being changed or running out. So theres any number of good reasons to buy a Hybrid besides the little extra performance issues.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

vaportekusa.com

They have the Rainbow Heaven hybrid clone up for pre-order. It is still $70, but much cheaper than the hybrids out.

Maybe I'm just rehashing what was already said, but the point is to not limit the power to the atomizer with a 510 connection. While the popularity is probably very much a coolness factor, if you look up what a high end mechanical will cost and then look up what a high end genesis atomizer will cost, the fact that you get both in a hybrid, it starts to make sense (somewhat!) why they are so costly.

I already am on the Rainbow Heaven hybrid pre-order. That way I can see if I want to actually shell out the million dollars for a legit hybrid.

 

[kinkolinko]

The iHybrid line of hybrids will be releasing their iHybrid "pure" model. Aimed at putting an affordable hybrid design in the hands of the masses. They make some pretty cool limited edition "collectors" editions too, but are pretty pricey (the resale prices are unmissable!). There's a couple good reviews of the Pure hybrid on YouTube.

Best part is price its going to be set at only $99

I'm slowly building my collection too, but not really fond of Genesis style devices so have never really considered a hybrid device except maybe the fuse which its a hybrid dripper. Of course price is a big factor for me as well. For right around $100 though, I'm probably going to try and get one I'd these Pures. Its considerably cheaper than most of my mods and looks pretty cool IMO.

For some pics of some if the rarer iHybrid models go to their website or just check out @calivapers or @janhalili on instagram. His collection is sick!

You can check out my collection while you're in there too @kinkolinko =)

 

[kinkolinko]

vaportekusa.com

They have the Rainbow Heaven hybrid clone up for pre-order. It is still $70, but much cheaper than the hybrids out.

Maybe I'm just rehashing what was already said, but the point is to not limit the power to the atomizer with a 510 connection. While the popularity is probably very much a coolness factor, if you look up what a high end mechanical will cost and then look up what a high end genesis atomizer will cost, the fact that you get both in a hybrid, it starts to make sense (somewhat!) why they are so costly.

I already am on the Rainbow Heaven hybrid pre-order. That way I can see if I want to actually shell out the million dollars for a legit hybrid.

Good call on the rainbow heaven too. Forgot I saw that on vaporjoes. That would really be a great one to get your feet wet with a hybrid mod.Think I'll still try and get the iHybrid pure cuz it's made I'm the good 'ol USA.

Make sure to post back with how that bad boy works out when you get it in hand. Do you already use hybrid devices?