So what's the deal provarmy? (provari hype?)

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I blame it on first love. Lots of crappy vaping gear out there. Once you find something that actually don't go belly up or cause daily grief, you may think it's the best thing ever. If you don't move on, it will remain best thing ever.

... he says and takes another puff on a 0.8 ohm meshed gennie... which is best ever.

Exactly, you see it over and over. What "the best in the world" usually means with vapers is "the best I've tried so far". Research has been my savior for purchases. My next regulated if I need one, the seven22 (so far).
 

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I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but as a "former provari owner" your post seems to have an air of untruthfulness surrounding it.

Especially when you compare a Vamo and ProVari side by side. Hey....Call me a drinker of the Kool-Aid, but when I put my ProVari side by side with my sigelei Zmax. There was no comparison. Just by picking each one up and feeling them and using them you could tell which one cost $40 and which one cost 4 times the amount...

You come here and basically ask..What's the hype about the Provari? Really? And you want me to believe you are asking that question after you admit to using that money to buy an AUTHENTIC Copper Stingray that's just as expensive as a ProVari? You buy an Authentic Stingray and accuse ProVari owners of buying a "status" item when there are numerous Stingray clones that perform the same for, your words, 1/7th the cost?

I'm not going to say you are lying, because we all know that everything you read on the internet is true.

But something doesn't add up, when the owner of a "high quality" mech mod who is more than happy to spend nearly $200.00 on such a device can't recognize the quality of a ProVari that he actually owned over a 30 dollar Vamo, I have to ask myself, What's up with THAT!!!???

As the owner of a high quality mech mod, I would expect you of all people to recognize the quality built into a ProVari and recognize the inherent value that such build quality has.

So based soley on the contradictions in your own post, I have to conclude

A. You never REALLY owned a ProVari,
B. Don't REALLY own an authentic Stingray
C. All of the above.

And that's kind of sad really.

EDIT: One last thing, Please go back and review pbusardo's Vamo review because I think you misread the charts.

The Vamo has accuracy of +/- .1 volts, which is typical of a 33.33hz chipset. The ProVari, on the other hand has accuracy of +/- .02 volts.

This makes the ProVari 5 times more accurate than the Vamo. Now I doubt any of us can taste the difference between .02 volts and .1 volts, but it was you who referenced pbusardo's review and said that the two devices have the same accuracy when one is more accurate by a factor of 5.

Were you just mistaken, did you read the graphs wrong, or were you untruthful on that as well?

ProVari Review: http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/2012/02/28/714/

Vamo V5 Review: http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/2013/11/15/the-vamo-v5-review/
 
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-Is it maybe that your so proud of the $200 "leap", that you can't possibly think your provari isn't worth it?

Nope.

I actually researched the product, among others, before I bought it. I chose the product that seemed able to fill my particular needs/wants the best.

It turned out the information I had found was accurate, and I got exactly what I thought I was going to get. If I had not liked it, that would probably be my own fault for not researching it properly before spending money.

The Provari cost me less my TV (which is worthless today). It cost me less than the DVD recorder connected to the TV (ditto). It cost me less than my Xbox 360 (ditto), when counting peripherals and games. And it cost me less than the Minidisc player I owned ten years ago (ditto), and which I lost. It cost me less than the amp connected to the TV, and it cost me less than the loudspeakers connected to the amp. I could go on. And none of this is high end equipment.

And all of it is "worth it". Why? Because I want to be able to watch TV. And record it, and hear the sound in decent quality. The Xbox 360 is worth it because sometimes I want to play video games. The Provari is worth it because I want to vape.

I honestly don't understand why some people have such a hard time understanding this.

For crying out loud, the Provari costs less than most of the speeding tickets I have gotten. And those were not even worth it.

So why do you think spending $200 on an electronic device is such a leap, and why do you think it is something to be proud of?
 
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I honestly don't understand why some people have such a hard time understanding this.

For crying out loud, the Provari costs less than most speeding tickets I have gotten. And those were not even worth it.

So why do you think spending $200 on an electronic device is such a leap, and why do you think it is something to be proud of?

Remember, this is coming from a guy who spent nearly 200 bucks on an "authentic" stingray and feels THAT'S totally worth it....Uh huh...
 

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Remember, this is coming from a guy who spent nearly 200 bucks on an "authentic" stingray and feels THAT'S totally worth it....Uh huh...

Well good for him, as long as he likes it.

So the appropriate time to start a thread called "So what's the deal stinguerilla? (stingray hype?)" would be ... now? For some unfathomable reason I cannot see the point in doing so. What is making me so apathetic? Is it the provari hype, or the stingray hype? :rolleyes:
 

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The extent that some people will go to discredit the ProVari without, "wanting to discredit the ProVari". It's depressing.

I am usually of the vape and let vape philosophy, but I do get a little irritated when one implies that I purchased a ProVari simply for "status". Especially considering how much of a ProVari skeptic I have been.

I still think that the MVP is the best bang for your buck. It vapes great, is well built and should last until it's battery can't be charged. Throw it away and get another. And for $40.00 it can't be beat. I still use my MVP's when I need to go out of town, so I don't have to pack chargers and batteries.

But as much as I love my MVP's, they are no ProVari.

However, If you want a tube mode that WILL outlast the batteries you buy for it, I still think ProVari is the way to go. And when I see a Chinese made $40 dollar mod in the classies after two years of use for sale, then I'll give that mod the credit it's due. But until then...
 
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I love Provari threads. It's been awhile, eh? :D

I absolutely adore all the testimonials from people proclaiming the Provari lasts forever, after owning one an entire 1-2 months max.


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I absolutely adore all the testimonials from people proclaiming the Provari lasts forever, after owning one an entire 1-2 months max.

How many such testimonials are there in this thread? Are there any at all, or is this just a straw man? If it is a straw man, what is the motive behind it?
 

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I wanted a provari for the longest time, I thought I would stick with regulated mods my whole vape career...but then I got a mech mod and a Genny and I can never see myself going back to regulated mods lol

I kinda still want a provari, but I have no use for it because I am absolutely in love with mechs and rebuildables... To each their own!
 

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I wanted a provari for the longest time, I thought I would stick with regulated mods my whole vape career...but then I got a mech mod and a Genny and I can never see myself going back to regulated mods lol

I kinda still want a provari, but I have no use for it because I am absolutely in love with mechs and rebuildables... To each their own!

What do you love about mechs? I'm seriously asking the question. I went to a regulated mod so that I get the same vape from a fresh battery all the way through to the end of the battery life. I'm vaping 10 watts on a Kayfun and really happy. I can appreciate the ruggedness and looks of some mech mods, but I wonder how you guys deal with the lag. Do you guys buy battery chemistries that have a flatter discharge curve so it's not as noticable?

Is it just all about the cloud? I mean I have a Kayfun and the flavor is off the chart. I can now vape 0mg nic juice with no problem. I was really worried about going 0 nic because on my ProTanks it tasted like...nothing. So I was wondering how I was going to be satisfied with 0 nic. But the Kayfun completely eliminated that issue.
 

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At .7 on my Kraken feel like I get amazing flavor and quite a bit of vapor. I only use Sony vtc4s in my nemmy.
Starts off around 25 watts on a full battery and runs down to 18 watts when its at 3.6 volt when I usually change out batts.
Usually a battery will last me a whole day at work, then I throw a new one on. I don't really notice a massive drop in power unless the battery gets super low.
I also have a kick that I use with my car to tanks from time to time to make it regulated.
 
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I own both a ProVari and a Vamo V1 and V5. Honestly all of this is subjective. At the end of the day, whatever works best for you is the best MOD available, plain and simple. My attraction to the ProVari is the quality of how it's built as well as the fact that it's made in the United States. In addition, if you fire and ProVari and fire listen, you'll notice a consistent signal. When you fire a Vamo or most other Chinese devices, you'll notice the "rattlesnake" pulse-width modulation. While this may not be a big deal (at least not enough to warrant the price increase) it does speak to the quality of the device you are getting.

As I said I own both, and I use both. I just tend to use the Vamo less. But it's all personal preference in the end. If the Vamo satisfies all of your needs, then by all means stick with it. It's a great MOD for the price.
 

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This post appeared in the General E-Smoking Discussion. It was dumped here by an ECF moderator. There was at least one post about a Sigelei APV yesterday in the New Members Forum and it didn't get dumped here. What gives?

If ECF wanted to move this thread it should have been sent to the Provape forum. After all, the post is addressed specifically to the provarmy. It says so in the title.

Please. :nah:
 

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This post appeared in the General E-Smoking Discussion. It was dumped here by an ECF moderator. There was at least one post about a Sigelei APV yesterday in the New Members Forum and it didn't get dumped here. What gives?

If ECF wanted to move this thread it should have been sent to the Provape forum. After all, the post is addressed specifically to the provarmy. It says so in the title.

Please. :nah:

No....This is an APV forum. Not all ProVari discussions belong in the ProVape vendor forum.

If you don't want to read it, no one is forcing you to......
 

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What do you love about mechs? I'm seriously asking the question. I went to a regulated mod so that I get the same vape from a fresh battery all the way through to the end of the battery life. I'm vaping 10 watts on a Kayfun and really happy. I can appreciate the ruggedness and looks of some mech mods, but I wonder how you guys deal with the lag. Do you guys buy battery chemistries that have a flatter discharge curve so it's not as noticable?

Is it just all about the cloud? I mean I have a Kayfun and the flavor is off the chart. I can now vape 0mg nic juice with no problem. I was really worried about going 0 nic because on my ProTanks it tasted like...nothing. So I was wondering how I was going to be satisfied with 0 nic. But the Kayfun completely eliminated that issue.

Yeah, until you vape a properly set up 0.6-0.8 ohm set up, you won't know...just like a ProVari, you have to experience it to understand.

I do 85-90% of my vaping on a ProVari, but I do enjoy that occasional 20+watt vape from my Helios. You simply can't do that on a ProVari. When I have an 18650 in, the battery stays above 3.8 Volts for hours. The Kayfun is not a good device for this type of set up, in my experience. Limitations on air flow and wick make it a 12 watt or so device at most, unless you want to modify it, which I think is a bad idea.
 
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