So what's the deal provarmy? (provari hype?)

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I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but as a "former provari owner" your post seems to have an air of untruthfulness surrounding it.

Especially when you compare a Vamo and ProVari side by side. Hey....Call me a drinker of the Kool-Aid, but when I put my ProVari side by side with my sigelei Zmax. There was no comparison. Just by picking each one up and feeling them and using them you could tell which one cost $40 and which one cost 4 times the amount...

You come here and basically ask..What's the hype about the Provari? Really? And you want me to believe you are asking that question after you admit to using that money to buy an AUTHENTIC Copper Stingray that's just as expensive as a ProVari? You buy an Authentic Stingray and accuse ProVari owners of buying a "status" item when there are numerous Stingray clones that perform the same for, your words, 1/7th the cost?

I'm not going to say you are lying, because we all know that everything you read on the internet is true.

But something doesn't add up, when the owner of a "high quality" mech mod who is more than happy to spend nearly $200.00 on such a device can't recognize the quality of a ProVari that he actually owned over a 30 dollar Vamo, I have to ask myself, What's up with THAT!!!???

As the owner of a high quality mech mod, I would expect you of all people to recognize the quality built into a ProVari and recognize the inherent value that such build quality has.

So based soley on the contradictions in your own post, I have to conclude

A. You never REALLY owned a ProVari,
B. Don't REALLY own an authentic Stingray
C. All of the above.

And that's kind of sad really.

EDIT: One last thing, Please go back and review pbusardo's Vamo review because I think you misread the charts.

The Vamo has accuracy of +/- .1 volts, which is typical of a 33.33hz chipset. The ProVari, on the other hand has accuracy of +/- .02 volts.

This makes the ProVari 5 times more accurate than the Vamo. Now I doubt any of us can taste the difference between .02 volts and .1 volts, but it was you who referenced pbusardo's review and said that the two devices have the same accuracy when one is more accurate by a factor of 5.

Were you just mistaken, did you read the graphs wrong, or were you untruthful on that as well?

ProVari Review: Taste Your Juice | The ProVari V2

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Oh man I really am sorry I ever asked the question, I think we should all take a chill pill for a second here. I want to take a second to salute the U.S.A made build quality of the Provari, because it's at least 2x better than the vamo, you can feel it in the threads, it's the heaviest mod of it's size I've ever owned, and although I never used the customer service from what I've read it's excellent.

I think it's probably my personal preferences that make my opinions of the provari, I'm quite the tech enthusiast and what it all comes down to is Capability for me. Provari = 3.5 amp limit, Vamo = 5 amp limit which do you think will have a more stable voltage based on that? And which will be the safest? The Provari. 3.5 amps is overkill if all you use is carto-tanks, I rarely use carto-tanks unless I'm driving or at the movie theater and feel the need to vape. However for my preferences the vamo suits me best, an example: at both their 6 volt settings I'm unable to fire the Provari at 1.25-2.0ohm, a 2ohm coil is pretty huge and needs alot of power to give me the perfectly moderate vape I want. To compare on a 2ohm coil (which is bigger than most use, certainly me who likes 1.5 or lower) I like at least 6 volts which equals 18watts. The provari will only let me do 12.5 watts, it's almost nowhere near what I want in that area.

And yes your right the Provari is more accurate, and on a scale that most can't feel but I still appreciate that fact, I just wish it would do that at a broader range. The vamo is off in wattage mode by .2 over, which is nearly a good thing for me, that means I can turn it down a tad if anything. Other important things to me are the ease of use, I can adjust the vamo while driving and not take my eyes off the road because it's just quicker, I like that. It does everything I want, and so did the Provari, just in a smaller variety of application, it's not absolute over-priced trash, just doesn't suit all my preferences.

I'm not the type of person that particularly cares about super-safety, my vamo prevents me from any kind of injury that's all I want. I also don't really care about warranty and repair because I know it's not going to break on it, im not a gorilla, if for some reason it does it won't hurt my wallet to buy another.

I love the intro to pbusardo's review because IME it displays how everyone thinks of their vamo, except me apparently, and the youtube version was blocked by 100's of fanboys and girls like you, who didn't like them bad-mouthing the precious vamo. I swear on my dear mother's life, that I've owned a vamo, and don't want to say how I like it anymore because I've said it in the OP and 3 times after, it just didn't suit ALL my needs. I certainly own a JDtech stingray, and it's uncomparable to even the Provari in craftsmanship, I'm not even going to enlighten why. I'm not the type of guy who is jealous of things I can't afford, so I feel the need to bash others who own them, believe it or not I don't care, I'm still happily vaping with a nearly touch-sensitive magnetic firing pin, pure copper body that has .03 volt drop, and the slickest threads I've seen in my life, much less the beautiful and eye-candy-like engravings, silver plated connections, and all of the capabilities of mech mods everywhere (besides 26650).

But they are still just nice billets of metal in the end, they are replaceable, and you can't hurt my feelings about them, only by calling me a liar.
 

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Whoa, I don't hate provari. It did exactly what I wanted, and so did the vamo, for 1/7th the price, that was my only point, and the fact that I had to pay to upgrade to an 18650, and it had a less good looking finish/display, and it didn't do variable wattage, and for the price of an upgrade to v2 I can just buy the next version of vamo and have the old one for backup. (remember I'm not talking trash here, just wanted to see the preference reasons, because it didn't out-perform any variable I've ever handled, almost all of them perform the same, unless it's a dna30 which I use most of the time now and blows the socks off both of them.)

I just think alot of people would probably save alot of money if they agree with me, let's be honest it's the same performance for less money. I do hate to admit that the chinese counterpart is just as good as the U.S.A. made because I'm probably the most patriotic person in this chat right now, but the vamo definitely isn't cheaply made or given me any negatives whatso-ever. The only thing it's missing is the warranty, that's it.

-Again I don't want to ruffle any feathers here :D, to each her/his own and that's the golden rule with vapers, I don't dislike the vamo, just wish I'd looked into all the possibilities first. I'm glad I got to experience it though! Great vv device for sure, built sturdy, and it had a nice weight to it.

Aren't we being the testy one today! Apparently a sincere answer is not what you wanted. It appears to me that if you didn't want to ruffle feathers you would not have written the above.

If you were to actually read my post that you quoted in the above, you would see that I said the WHY is exactly what you stated --- and more.

Because you can't see the difference in the vape is only your view -- yet you fell for the Hype of a more expensive Copper Battery Holder Mod because, well, it is hype. Copper will scratch and dent. It's a soft metal.

I've been vaping with Evolv Products and Provape Products for well over 2 1/2 years. They are both still the best regulated products made and my choice for a mod is a regulated one with protection circuits. The fad of battery tubes only is waning a bit as the DNA20 was so well received and there is now a DNA30 chip. Both products have their pro's and con's, as do all the gear.

If you don't want a consistent vape, so be it. I've learned I really enjoy that.

Now I'll go and catch up on the thread. :)
 
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Oh man I really am sorry I ever asked the question, I think we should all take a chill pill for a second here. I want to take a second to salute the U.S.A made build quality of the Provari, because it's at least 2x better than the vamo, you can feel it in the threads, it's the heaviest mod of it's size I've ever owned, and although I never used the customer service from what I've read it's excellent.

I think it's probably my personal preferences that make my opinions of the provari, I'm quite the tech enthusiast and what it all comes down to is Capability for me. Provari = 3.5 amp limit, Vamo = 5 amp limit which do you think will have a more stable voltage based on that? And which will be the safest? The Provari. 3.5 amps is overkill if all you use is carto-tanks, I rarely use carto-tanks unless I'm driving or at the movie theater and feel the need to vape. However for my preferences the vamo suits me best, an example: at both their 6 volt settings I'm unable to fire the Provari at 1.25-2.0ohm, a 2ohm coil is pretty huge and needs alot of power to give me the perfectly moderate vape I want. To compare on a 2ohm coil (which is bigger than most use, certainly me who likes 1.5 or lower) I like at least 6 volts which equals 18watts. The provari will only let me do 12.5 watts, it's almost nowhere near what I want in that area.

And yes your right the Provari is more accurate, and on a scale that most can't feel but I still appreciate that fact, I just wish it would do that at a broader range. The vamo is off in wattage mode by .2 over, which is nearly a good thing for me, that means I can turn it down a tad if anything. Other important things to me are the ease of use, I can adjust the vamo while driving and not take my eyes off the road because it's just quicker, I like that. It does everything I want, and so did the Provari, just in a smaller variety of application, it's not absolute over-priced trash, just doesn't suit all my preferences.

I'm not the type of person that particularly cares about super-safety, my vamo prevents me from any kind of injury that's all I want. I also don't really care about warranty and repair because I know it's not going to break on it, im not a gorilla, if for some reason it does it won't hurt my wallet to buy another.

I love the intro to pbusardo's review because IME it displays how everyone thinks of their vamo, except me apparently, and the youtube version was blocked by 100's of fanboys and girls like you, who didn't like them bad-mouthing the precious vamo. I swear on my dear mother's life, that I've owned a vamo, and don't want to say how I like it anymore because I've said it in the OP and 3 times after, it just didn't suit ALL my needs. I certainly own a JDtech stingray, and it's uncomparable to even the Provari in craftsmanship, I'm not even going to enlighten why. I'm not the type of guy who is jealous of things I can't afford, so I feel the need to bash others who own them, believe it or not I don't care, I'm still happily vaping with a nearly touch-sensitive magnetic firing pin, pure copper body that has .03 volt drop, and the slickest threads I've seen in my life, much less the beautiful and eye-candy-like engravings, silver plated connections, and all of the capabilities of mech mods everywhere (besides 26650).

But they are still just nice billets of metal in the end, they are replaceable, and you can't hurt my feelings about them, only by calling me a liar.

Had you said that in you original quote, I would not have gotten my feathers ruffled. It was a little off putting for you to claim that people own ProVari's for status when you yourself purchased a particular Mech Mod for what appeared to be the very same reason.

Despite it's perceived limitations, (3.5 amps) I still think the ProVari is head and shoulders above a Vamo for the reasons I mentioned.

But it's all good. I apologize for calling you a liar, that was over the top. To each their own. How you spend your money is not my business.
 

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Whoa, I don't hate provari. It did exactly what I wanted, and so did the vamo, for 1/7th the price, that was my only point, and the fact that I had to pay to upgrade to an 18650, and it had a less good looking finish/display, and it didn't do variable wattage, and for the price of an upgrade to v2 I can just buy the next version of vamo and have the old one for backup. (remember I'm not talking trash here, just wanted to see the preference reasons, because it didn't out-perform any variable I've ever handled, almost all of them perform the same, unless it's a dna30 which I use most of the time now and blows the socks off both of them.)

I just think alot of people would probably save alot of money if they agree with me, let's be honest it's the same performance for less money. I do hate to admit that the chinese counterpart is just as good as the U.S.A. made because I'm probably the most patriotic person in this chat right now, but the vamo definitely isn't cheaply made or given me any negatives whatso-ever. The only thing it's missing is the warranty, that's it.

...it's starting to appear to me as a status item...
You start a thread titled "So what's the deal, Prov-army?". You threw in the "status" word. You shouldn't have been surprised that owners loyal to the Provari wouldn't come running to give their testomonials on why they love them. I detected some manipulation and some passive-aggressive influences on your part to stir the pot.

Just because you couldn't experience a better vape from your Provari compared to a Vamo (of all things) doesn't mean others don't. And it has absolutely nothing to do about any statis symbol. My Provari's have me spoiled to the point that I dislike vaping on anything else. Many others feel the same way. The difference in the way the Provari uses pulse modulation is quite noticeable to me. Chips which use 33.3 Hz vape too hot for me and that's unpleasant. Merely turning down the voltage doesn't help much. I'm not the only one:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/381232-provari-oscope-vs-vamo.html

How someone can compare the build quality of a Vamo to a Provari is beyond my comprehension. Lets see how well you like your Vamo 6 months from now after the connector threads loosen or strip out. Or the fire button dysfunctions. Although not likely to happen with a Provari, at least you can get one fixed. With the Vamo, it becomes an expensive paper weight.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/547663-vamo-bit-dust-dangit.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/547769-vamo-problem.html

Sincerely, I'm happy that you have found a better vape for YOU. But to start a thread like this one got exactly the responses that I knew it would.
 
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Whoa, I don't hate provari. It did exactly what I wanted, and so did the vamo, for 1/7th the price, that was my only point, and the fact that I had to pay to upgrade to an 18650, and it had a less good looking finish/display, and it didn't do variable wattage, and for the price of an upgrade to v2 I can just buy the next version of vamo and have the old one for backup. (remember I'm not talking trash here, just wanted to see the preference reasons, because it didn't out-perform any variable I've ever handled, almost all of them perform the same, unless it's a dna30 which I use most of the time now and blows the socks off both of them.)

I just think alot of people would probably save alot of money if they agree with me, let's be honest it's the same performance for less money. I do hate to admit that the chinese counterpart is just as good as the U.S.A. made because I'm probably the most patriotic person in this chat right now, but the vamo definitely isn't cheaply made or given me any negatives whatso-ever. The only thing it's missing is the warranty, that's it.

-Again I don't want to ruffle any feathers here :D, to each her/his own and that's the golden rule with vapers, I don't dislike the vamo, just wish I'd looked into all the possibilities first. I'm glad I got to experience it though! Great vv device for sure, built sturdy, and it had a nice weight to it.



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Well... Considering my husband has went through 2 Vamos in the last few months I think there's no comparison. A vamo just doesn't stand up in durability over time. Ask him about a Vamo and he will laugh.


THIS. I have several paper weights sitting around my office now (but have never owned a Provari).

I hate having to replace my VV/VW devices every few months. I am really over it. :mad:

Back in my smoking days, I had lighters last longer than some of my Vamos did (and those were Bic disposables, not Zippos).
 
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I love Provari threads. It's been awhile, eh? :D

I absolutely adore all the testimonials from people proclaiming the Provari lasts forever, after owning one an entire 1-2 months max.

Mine will be hitting the two year mark in a few months, and I absolutely adore that fact.
Guess I got what I paid for, unlike all the other junk devices I wasted money on, none of those lasted more than 8 months before self destructing on their own.
 

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Yet a another thread that reads like a high school boys locker room "my stick is bigger than yours" contest.

You had a ProVari, you loved it, yet you sold it. Maybe that action is keeping you up at night judging by the time stamp on this thread. I tend to keep things I love but obviously you're different. And that's okay. :shrug:

We are all after the same goal and that's to stay off analogs. If you want Chinese apv's, unregulated copper tubes with a switch or broom handles with circuit boards and 12 buttons, that's great! If I want 2 or 12 ProVari's then that should be my privilege as well.

I don't feel the need to answer why my "toothbrushes" are "rockstars". Nor do I expect someone to justify why they have a CASE full of mechs with sequential serial numbers that look and function exactly the same. To each his/her own. Embracing our differences as human beings is the spice of life imo.

You claimed flaming wasn't intended yet you felt a disclaimer was necessary. It seems the "hype" is being caused by threads like this one. It shines like a beacon from a lighthouse to ProVari owners who are still quite happy with it.
 
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I don't understand how anyone is going to save a lot of money when you end up buying a vamo over and over. LOL... By the time you buy a few Vamos because they keep breaking you could have bought a new ProVari.

Especially when you can sell it on the classies 2 years after you purchased it for well over 1/2 what you paid for it... That puts the cost of ownership down to about 40 dollars a year.
 

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I have owned an Itaste SVD, and a Vamo v5. I, like you, loved the vamo at first. Then I dropped it and the press fitted pieces came apart, so it met my hammer a few times. Neither the SVD or vamo lasted longer than six months. The SVD died. One of the buttons on the vamo lost all spring, it was regifted to a needier person. So, I cannot say I will be backtracking to China anytime soon. I like my warranty. BTW, I work in production in the US, and it is widely known that China and India have little to no quality control.
 

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Had you said that in you original quote, I would not have gotten my feathers ruffled. It was a little off putting for you to claim that people own ProVari's for status when you yourself purchased a particular Mech Mod for what appeared to be the very same reason.

Despite it's perceived limitations, (3.5 amps) I still think the ProVari is head and shoulders above a Vamo for the reasons I mentioned.

But it's all good. I apologize for calling you a liar, that was over the top. To each their own. How you spend your money is not my business.

No worries really, I didn't mean for this to turn into a football team debate. I attach no ego whatsoever to any vaping equipment, it's the fact that people are this affected by them is what's weird. Really though, no hate here as a former owner, I can't prove that I owned it because it lives in Fairbanks now, but here's proof of the other two (I can't believe I actually did this, this is madness. This is Sparta)
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So why do you think spending $200 on an electronic device is such a leap, and why do you think it is something to be proud of?

I don't. This is what you were replying to.

I'm not an 18 year old that thinks $200 is a treasure. When I was young, I used to think my toyota supra was the hottest car in the world, now I realize my brain made me think that because that was the most money I'd spent so far. Why are people so defensive about their vaping equipment? It's just battery tubes and billets of metal. My vamo does the job, but I don't put it on a trophy shelf, I could give a rats behind if it got ran over tomorrow (I've always got a back up ;))

The Provari cost me less my TV (which is worthless today). It cost me less than the DVD recorder connected to the TV (ditto). It cost me less than my Xbox 360 (ditto), when counting peripherals and games. And it cost me less than the Minidisc player I owned ten years ago (ditto), and which I lost. It cost me less than the amp connected to the TV, and it cost me less than the loudspeakers connected to the amp. I could go on. And none of this is high end equipment.

The Provari is worth it because I want to vape.

Is that an accomplishment? I think an Xbox360, t.v., and dvd player should be more than an APV. There are many things that will give you the same vape, allow you to vape better, more range of vaping applications, and for cheaper. That's why I brought up the stingray, I can vape whatever I want, and I mean anything, very efficiently with better build quality, for cheaper.
 

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The world doesn't exist where you can hold a provari along with a vamo and honestly say that the vamo compares favorably with the provari in terms of build quality. I have owned and held both. There is no comparison.

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There is a comparison, they both vape nearly the same, they are shiny metal, they aren't worlds apart in weight, and have a processor to set settings, everything trumped by the provari is cosmetic, and my vaping equipment is not jewelry to me.
 

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I have owned an Itaste SVD, and a Vamo v5. I, like you, loved the vamo at first. Then I dropped it and the press fitted pieces came apart, so it met my hammer a few times. Neither the SVD or vamo lasted longer than six months. The SVD died. One of the buttons on the vamo lost all spring, it was regifted to a needier person. So, I cannot say I will be backtracking to China anytime soon. I like my warranty. BTW, I work in production in the US, and it is widely known that China and India have little to no quality control.

I know, and it's one of the reasons it's such a bang for your buck unfortunately. My vamo is basically a backup, not my main vaping tool, I usually use mech mods because they give me an excellent vape that both the provari and vamo can never understand.
 

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Yet a another thread that reads like a high school boys locker room "my stick is bigger than yours" contest.

You had a ProVari, you loved it, yet you sold it. Maybe that action is keeping you up at night judging by the time stamp on this thread. I tend to keep things I love but obviously you're different. And that's okay. :shrug:

We are all after the same goal and that's to stay off analogs. If you want Chinese apv's, unregulated copper tubes with a switch or broom handles with circuit boards and 12 buttons, that's great! If I want 2 or 12 ProVari's then that should be my privilege as well.

I don't feel the need to answer why my "toothbrushes" are "rockstars". Nor do I expect someone to justify why they have a CASE full of mechs with sequential serial numbers that look and function exactly the same. To each his/her own. Embracing our differences as human beings is the spice of life imo.

You claimed flaming wasn't intended yet you felt a disclaimer was necessary. It seems the "hype" is being caused by threads like this one. It shines like a beacon from a lighthouse to ProVari owners who are still quite happy with it.

I resorted to saying I loved it because of the die hards bashing me, there's truly now way to get through to a vari lover without trying to sugar-coat it. I mean make fun of the stingray or the vamo, I don't care, I'll listen with open ears and maybe consider their experience means something.

-I see everyone making such a fuss about it, like you said a boys locker room (read through and see if I sound like a boy comparing my manhood, I've used perfect logic and mature reasoning, even explained realistically how the vamo doesn't meet my expectations per price ratio) I can't do what I want with the expensive one, I can with the cheap one, what's the big deal? The only argument I've heard so far is; it's got a warrantee, and it's built nice and heavy. Everyones trying to say I'M the one ignoring reality, and kidding myself, that's just immature. I liked the provari, not loved, because it worked great (not astronomically better than most apv's) but ONLY for basically carto-tanks. And carto-tanks are definitely NOT vape heaven to me (personal preference). I don't play for a "team" like provari does, that's just stupid. Go ahead insult the vamo, stingray, ehuge, or my hana mods v3. See if I act like you insulted my wife, pffft. Vaping is awesome not the devices, I mean can you guys see what your getting worked up over? Most people would say, "look at those nerds over there arguing about batteries LOL".
 

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I don't understand how anyone is going to save a lot of money when you end up buying a vamo over and over. LOL... By the time you buy a few Vamos because they keep breaking you could have bought a new ProVari.

I've had my vamo since november, and it doesn't have a scratch. It's because I treat it like I do my other electrical devices (like my cell-phone), not like a night-stick.

Assuming you are a gorilla on testosterone, you could buy 7 vamos before a provari, so judging how long this ones lasted me, I could keep breaking vamos for 3 years and still save money from buying a provari.

**again not that 200 is a big deal to me, I spend that much on gas monthly, with almost no hurt to the wallet, but it's just not a bargain to me. I'll use my stingray again; I can vape anything under the sun with it at the moment, it is has better build quality than the provari, it's not boring looking, and STILL costs less. A rare not-in-production mod less expensive than a production line mod.
 
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Mine will be hitting the two year mark in a few months, and I absolutely adore that fact.
Guess I got what I paid for, unlike all the other junk devices I wasted money on, none of those lasted more than 8 months before self destructing on their own.

Since everyones flaming me and calling me a fake provari owner, and a provari-hater. I guess I'll say that provari owners need them because they are so clumsy they can't hold on to a cheaper than $200 mod for longer than 12 months, I mean their are titanium ones out there, I'd suggest one of those because you can run it over and drop it all you want.
 

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THIS. I have several paper weights sitting around my office now (but have never owned a Provari).

I hate having to replace my VV/VW devices every few months. I am really over it. :mad:

Back in my smoking days, I had lighters last longer than some of my Vamos did (and those were Bic disposables, not Zippos).

Another count for provari owners not being able to treat a device carefully, or maybe I got the only properly built vamo?
 
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